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Should NYC have radical rule experiments?

roopy

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I heard an interview with Gallop last week where he was asked about possible rule changes to make the game more exciting, and he basically said that trialling new rules in NYC is probably on the cards. His point was that NYC is a very high level comp with young and adaptable players who would take to new rules very quickly and give an idea how they would work without pissing off punters if the changes were duds.

So would people be more or less interested if it were played with different rules to NRL - such as 8 interchanges, two refs, etc etc etc.

My feeling is that NYC is for the fanatical fans, and they would be interested in seeing how rule changes work out, even if they don't work too well.
 

Dogaholic

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I don't like the idea. NYC should be about developing the next generation of stars, preparing them for the NRL, should remain the same rules.
 

roopy

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I don't like the idea. NYC should be about developing the next generation of stars, preparing them for the NRL, should remain the same rules.
The question then is where to trial changes?
I'd say the old fellas in Jim Beam wouldn't adapt to the changes quickly, so you wouldn't get as good an idea.
The other point is, the new rules would carry over to the NRL if they worked out, which would give the kids a definate advantage over older guys who hadn't been using them.
 

Pumba

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I don't like the idea. NYC should be about developing the next generation of stars, preparing them for the NRL, should remain the same rules.

I agree.

HOWEVER

It would be interesting to see some new rules tested.

I would be happy either way.
 

Dogaholic

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No Idea Roopy.

The NYC is a great spectacle in it's own right. People have been getting there early to watch that game and as shown in that other thread...people are tuning in on the box.

If you use the NYC to experiment you run the risk of taking away from those games. NYC is on the rise, it is still in its infacy. I say don't mess with it.
 

eastsrule

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Rugby Union has successfully experimented with laws at club and super 14 level even as well.

It is a very good idea, as these players are of a similar level to NRL players and you get a true indication on how the rules go.

Players are going to be developed as long as they play the basics of footy. Catching, passing, kicking and tackling.
 

Syren

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I heard an interview with Gallop last week where he was asked about possible rule changes to make the game more exciting, and he basically said that trialling new rules in NYC is probably on the cards. His point was that NYC is a very high level comp with young and adaptable players who would take to new rules very quickly and give an idea how they would work without pissing off punters if the changes were duds.

So would people be more or less interested if it were played with different rules to NRL - such as 8 interchanges, two refs, etc etc etc.

My feeling is that NYC is for the fanatical fans, and they would be interested in seeing how rule changes work out, even if they don't work too well.

I welcome changes but radical changes may have a negative impact instead. If NRL start trialling some ideas and rules, players get use to that set of rules, assume there are plenty of negative feedbacks and all that, NRL decides to scrap the new implementations, then players go back to square one trying to get back to the old ways might not be such a good thing for youngsters. Keep it reasonable and the idea is workable.
 

roopy

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I welcome changes but radical changes may have a negative impact instead. If NRL start trialling some ideas and rules, players get use to that set of rules, assume there are plenty of negative feedbacks and all that, NRL decides to scrap the new implementations, then players go back to square one trying to get back to the old ways might not be such a good thing for youngsters. Keep it reasonable and the idea is workable.
The interview i heard was on ABC radio with Warren Ryan, and he threw up everything from dropping player numbers to 12, reintroducing contested scrums, giving less points for tries from kicks, and others i can't even remember.
Gallop didn't commit to anything.
 

Chapsta

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The interview i heard was on ABC radio with Warren Ryan, and he threw up everything from dropping player numbers to 12, reintroducing contested scrums, giving less points for tries from kicks, and others i can't even remember.
Gallop didn't commit to anything.

I would make an effort to watch more U-20 games if that were the case.

On the other hand, like someone mentioned it before, some u-20 players may be disadvantages moving into the NRL after playing with these rules.

I just wonder if it would be a novelty, or they would be serious about implementing some of the new rules from U-20 to-> NRL.
 
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flamin

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There would definately be heaps more interest in the NYC if it was used as a testing ground.
 
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ozbash

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Rugby Union has successfully experimented with laws at club and super 14 level even as well.

It is a very good idea, as these players are of a similar level to NRL players and you get a true indication on how the rules go.

Players are going to be developed as long as they play the basics of footy. Catching, passing, kicking and tackling.

It seems to have worked ok at S14 level, which is arguably the next step down from internationals, so i think the NSWRL and Toyota Cup would be quite a good place to give new ideas a trial.
 
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