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Should the NRL buy a stake in the ARU?

Canard

Immortal
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Though, if the ARU did fall over and the ARLC was offered a place within the International Union scene in their place, THAT would definitely be something to think about....

That wouldn't happen though. The would just fund a puppet ARU.

If anything the current Australian Union players would welcome the collapse of the ARU, then they could play in Europe with no repercussions. The Wallabies could be picked from that.

This would severely impact the Super Rugby competition of course.
 

oikee

Juniors
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1,973
Forget wasting money on any union folly.
Here is what the NRL should be doing. Spend a couple of million on world-class marketing managers.
Probably from America, they can sell ice to eskimo's these lot.

Fix up the salary cap, we all know it is nothing but a dogs breakfast in which rich clubs can use third party deals to hide away our superstars all in one or two clubs, with hardly any fanfare for those superstars.
As i have pointed out, those clubs cant announce million dollar deals, because they have to write down their cap value to the price of paupers.

Aiden Geurrea, no huge mega signing, no fanfare, no front page news for the Italian stallion, just hidden like a faking mushroom because they cant announce to the public that him, the other mongrel, Hargreaves, Cordner, Moa, Evans, Napa, all these superstar forwards, being paid what. ????
200 thousand each. ??
Who knows what they are on the cap for. ?? anyone,.
I mean i would love Hargreaves at my club, I would be happy to have him on the cap at 700 thousand, same as Geurrea, i would pay him even more i rate him that highly, plus he puts bums on seats with the mums . The guy is a stallion. Women love that.


No, buy some manager marketers, get them to sell our superstars like Magic Johnson, Hardcore Hargreaves, Guerrea, the Italian Stallion. Twinkle toes Milf, Seeyalater Slater, Benny the Barber, Josh the winecooler Dugan and many more.

We have lots and lots of superstars, being sold off to union so they can sell them.
I mean nearly every union promotion you see on tele involves that horseheaded Falou.

Once our code learns how to sell itself like other codes do so much better, we will be forever the whipping boys of Union and punch-ball, even soccer.

Auckland nines has virtually put paid to the sevens in NZ, we need to now not take the foot off thier throat and let the sevens take hold in Sydney or Melbourne or any other city.
We should already be launching a 3 -city nines pre-season tournament.
Again, our marketers are slow to react.
The gate is wide open again. And that is why America is so far ahead , even if their code is not played in other countries, they know how to promote their game.
We dont, so buy some decent promoters, marketers.
Sell our Superstars, stop hiding them like faking mushrooms.
Fix this bullshite cap and any player that leaves the code can only return to clubs at the bottom of the ladder.
Start selling superstars, and promoting basketcase clubs.
Our code has plenty of superstars to go around. Why hoard most of them in a few clubs, spread the love.
 

oikee

Juniors
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We seen what happened to the Brisbane Broncos for not being able to sign a superstar player after Lockyer retired. The club was on it's knees, going backwards for a few years, all because we could not afford to pay for a superstar.
We sat back and watched a glamour club open the door to union and soccer in Brisbane, all because our cap is designed not to promote our big clubs, but to destroy them.
I mean Gallop was quite happy to nearly kill the Storm because of this shonky cap system.
Only a knucklehead leader would allow this to happen, or continue.
Smith and Grant cant sit on this for too much longer.
Fix the cap system or get rid of it completely.
 
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Raiderdave

First Grade
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We seen what happened to the Brisbane Broncos for not being able to sign a superstar player after Lockyer retired. The club was on it's knees, going backwards for a few years, all because we could not afford to pay for a superstar.
We sat back and watched a glamour club open the door to union and soccer in Brisbane, akll because our cap is designed not to promote our big clubs, but to destroy them.
Only as knucklehead leader would allow this to continue.
Smith and Grant cant sit on this for too much longer.
Fix the cap system or get rid of it completely.

you are officially

a spastic :crazy::crazy::crazy:
 

Starkers

Bench
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3,203
If the Force and Rebels were to fail financially, I'd happily see the ARLC take them over and add them to the NRL. That's about the only Union stake I can see the ARLC buying.

Potentially, in an expanded 9's tournament, the ARLC could invite Super Rugby teams to compete under 9's rules. It would broaden the appeal and interest.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

First Grade
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9,124
If the Force and Rebels were to fail financially, I'd happily see the ARLC take them over and add them to the NRL. That's about the only Union stake I can see the ARLC buying.

I dont think those brands would be valuable enough to worry about it....

On a side note though, (if one of the Melbourne VFL clubs were to be dropped from their firstgrade) i wonder how it would go down if the ARLC came in and offered them a spot in the NRL.

Hell, even if they dont kick a team out, there could be value in giving the licence to one of the VFL clubs (like tinkler owning Knights & Jets, or Northern England rugby clubs fielding League AND union teams) if a second Melbourne team was ever entered.
- RL will never be the no.1 sport in Vic (without a VFL players strike or Super League to piss the fans off). This would go a long way in presenting RL as only wanting to be Vics 2nd favourite sport
 
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We seen what happened to the Brisbane Broncos for not being able to sign a superstar player after Lockyer retired. The club was on it's knees, going backwards for a few years, all because we could not afford to pay for a superstar.
We sat back and watched a glamour club open the door to union and soccer in Brisbane, all because our cap is designed not to promote our big clubs, but to destroy them.
I mean Gallop was quite happy to nearly kill the Storm because of this shonky cap system.
Only a knucklehead leader would allow this to happen, or continue.
Smith and Grant cant sit on this for too much longer.
Fix the cap system or get rid of it completely.

Normally you keep your trolling close to the line of absolute lunacy, but not over it. Something's gone wrong lately because you are going full genius. Lift your game.
 

ParraEelsNRL

Referee
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There's a waratah suburb somewhere around the central coast, buy the tahs outright and plant them there, if other teams put their hand up and say they would like to switch codes as has happened all over the world for over 100 years and is still happening these days in some places, buy the reds as well and rename them to se qld reds or Brisbane reds if that's what they would like, merge the Brumbies and raiders or ship the brumbies to adelaide. Rename the force to anything else and leave the rebels where they are for a two pronged attack into victoria.

Done.

Bugger the aru who have never done a thing but attack attack attack using any and all means whilst having their mouthpieces in Peter Fitzsimmons and co who can't and won't let go of something that happened 120 years ago write continually every week about a sport they can't stand degrading and sticking the boot into, instead, make these merkins report on the sport and or club his lot have jumped too, now that's revenge punishment eh?

Just hit the individual clubs up and ask them if they would rather play in the NRL or continue this silly s15 that only diehards seem to care about, and there doesn't seem to be many of them left lately either. Would they rather continue travelling all over the joint being watched in the grounds and on TV by a few thousand here and there, or play in a comp where you can be with your family more or less all year round getting as much money most probably more across the board and way way way more exposure into the country that actually counts in this instance, Australia?
 

eozsmiles

Bench
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3,392
Forget wasting money on any union folly.
Here is what the NRL should be doing. Spend a couple of million on world-class marketing managers.

Probably from America, they can sell ice to eskimo's these lot.

Fix up the salary cap, we all know it is nothing but a dogs breakfast in which rich clubs can use third party deals to hide away our superstars all in one or two clubs, with hardly any fanfare for those superstars.
As i have pointed out, those clubs cant announce million dollar deals, because they have to write down their cap value to the price of paupers.

Aiden Geurrea, no huge mega signing, no fanfare, no front page news for the Italian stallion, just hidden like a faking mushroom because they cant announce to the public that him, the other mongrel, Hargreaves, Cordner, Moa, Evans, Napa, all these superstar forwards, being paid what. ????
200 thousand each. ??
Who knows what they are on the cap for. ?? anyone,.
I mean i would love Hargreaves at my club, I would be happy to have him on the cap at 700 thousand, same as Geurrea, i would pay him even more i rate him that highly, plus he puts bums on seats with the mums . The guy is a stallion. Women love that.


No, buy some manager marketers, get them to sell our superstars like Magic Johnson, Hardcore Hargreaves, Guerrea, the Italian Stallion. Twinkle toes Milf, Seeyalater Slater, Benny the Barber, Josh the winecooler Dugan and many more.

We have lots and lots of superstars, being sold off to union so they can sell them.
I mean nearly every union promotion you see on tele involves that horseheaded Falou.

Once our code learns how to sell itself like other codes do so much better, we will be forever the whipping boys of Union and punch-ball, even soccer.

Auckland nines has virtually put paid to the sevens in NZ, we need to now not take the foot off thier throat and let the sevens take hold in Sydney or Melbourne or any other city.
We should already be launching a 3 -city nines pre-season tournament.
Again, our marketers are slow to react.
The gate is wide open again. And that is why America is so far ahead , even if their code is not played in other countries, they know how to promote their game.
We dont, so buy some decent promoters, marketers.
Sell our Superstars, stop hiding them like faking mushrooms.
Fix this bullshite cap and any player that leaves the code can only return to clubs at the bottom of the ladder.
Start selling superstars, and promoting basketcase clubs.
Our code has plenty of superstars to go around. Why hoard most of them in a few clubs, spread the love.


The bit about the marketing managers is pretty good. Can't have any nuffies shaping the games image.

The bit about the milf sounds a bit something.
 

Loose Cannon

Bench
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There's a waratah suburb somewhere around the central coast, buy the tahs outright and plant them there

I am aware this is troll material only, but just for kicks, Waratah is the next suburb north of Hunter Stadium. In fact it is a 2 minute walk along the same road before you would cross the boundary.
 

The Great Dane

First Grade
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Though I think the ARLC propping up the ARU isn't a good idea, I think their could be something to gain from individual clubs buying shares in the Super Rugby clubs.

For example if the Raiders group was to attempt to buy the Brumbies (who are struggling financially at the moment) and merge the two clubs into one, not only would it really piss of a bunch of old Union people when they re-brand the Brumbies to the Raiders RU team (joking the Brumbies brand is to valuable to just throw away), but it'd also buy them a lot more sway when lobbying the government for the new stadium and other things, it'd almost double the participation numbers they could throw around and give them access to income from both clubs.

Sure it'd be a risk, but the teams could share facilities, the costs of running juniors could be lowered buy organising for the juniors clubs to share facilities and the such, and a deal could be organised with the government for a better stadium deal and I think in Canberra at least it'd be pretty easy to amalgamate the two fan bases, there'll always be a few who'll be 'disgusted' by such a move, but f##k em they're the sort that're scared of any type of change.

The only serious downsides I can see in the case of the Brumbies and Raiders is that the club would need to be able to maintain double the sponsorship money, but if all the current sponsors and cooperates agreed to stay on and the Raiders manged to pick up a few more or got a couple of companies to sponsor both teams (Huawei did try to sponsor the Brumbies before signing with the Raiders) then I reckon they could make it work, especially if they could get the Vikings behind the idea (that'd be much easier said then done though).
 
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Flapper

First Grade
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The only way the ARLC should be spending money in regards to ARU is to try and entice union clubs to convert, it's lose lose for the ARU, they either lose players AND revenue, or they have to stop the levies they put in to stop them going broke, sending them broke.
 

roughyedspud

Coach
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12,181
If clubs can field teams in both sports – as happens in England – then the next logical step is for governing bodies to share resources.


leeds rugby limited own both leeds rhinos & yorkshire carnegie (the union team)

&

newcastle rugby limited own newcastle falcons & gateshead thunder



so its only 2
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

First Grade
Messages
9,124
There's a waratah suburb somewhere around the central coast, buy the tahs outright and plant them there, if other teams put their hand up and say they would like to switch codes as has happened all over the world for over 100 years and is still happening these days in some places, buy the reds as well and rename them to se qld reds or Brisbane reds if that's what they would like, merge the Brumbies and raiders or ship the brumbies to adelaide. Rename the force to anything else and leave the rebels where they are for a two pronged attack into victoria.

Done.

Bugger the aru who have never done a thing but attack attack attack using any and all means whilst having their mouthpieces in Peter Fitzsimmons and co who can't and won't let go of something that happened 120 years ago write continually every week about a sport they can't stand degrading and sticking the boot into, instead, make these merkins report on the sport and or club his lot have jumped too, now that's revenge punishment eh?

Just hit the individual clubs up and ask them if they would rather play in the NRL or continue this silly s15 that only diehards seem to care about, and there doesn't seem to be many of them left lately either. Would they rather continue travelling all over the joint being watched in the grounds and on TV by a few thousand here and there, or play in a comp where you can be with your family more or less all year round getting as much money most probably more across the board and way way way more exposure into the country that actually counts in this instance, Australia?

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