Should we go after William Zillman

[macnaz]

and throwing a lovely flick pass 2 metres forward to some poor bloke in the third row trying to eat his hotdog.

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Lol ... But true tho, it became a regular part of his game.

 

[TrigaTheTiger]

I'd be aggreable to bringing the Peach out of retirement if it meant Moltzen would play at 7.

I can see the Zillman argument and while I am pissed that MM is gone for him personally, I think the biggest issue it brings is that Moltzen will end up at 1.

How many games did we win with Marshal at 6 and Moltzen at 7 again?

Oh yeah - lets not continue that, it obviously wasnt the right thing to do was it Sheens - you f**king idiot.

 

[RoMo]

Westie's been bitter ever since they gave Benji Reynolds the arse

 

[madunit]

Actually it was since the merger.

He's been enduring a 10 year long period

 

[N.C.]

I'd be aggreable to bringing the Peach out of retirement if it meant Moltzen would play at 7.

I can see the Zillman argument and while I am pissed that MM is gone for him personally, I think the biggest issue it brings is that Moltzen will end up at 1.

How many games did we win with Marshal at 6 and Moltzen at 7 again?

Oh yeah - lets not continue that, it obviously wasnt the right thing to do was it Sheens - you f**king idiot.

What about this Taumata kid though? I've never seen him play but from most accounts he is more suited to 5/8 or fullback than half. How long do you think it will take Sheens to name 1. Taumata, 6. Marshall, 7. Moltzen & 9. Farah?

 

[westie]

And always took the option of running his winger into touch and throwing a lovely flick pass 2 metres forward to some poor bloke in the third row trying to eat his hotdog. Thats if he could even be bothered in having a go that weekend.

I'll take Ayshford thanks.

Again refer to my point about him having a winger. This never once happened whilst he had even a reserve grade standard winger outside him. Ryan was a competent centre for the Maggies and I liked watching him go around - FG wing... totally different story.

NC, while ever you guys try to talk up players who aren't good, as has been done for about... oh.. say... 4 years now, I'll take issue. As per usual the forum favourite has been dropped once the media bollocks and forum fap fest stopped. And the poor lad is actually performing better this year than when the forum had him as a Kangaroo!!!

We have plenty of good players who we should be pumping up. Tuiaki, Ellis, Marshall and Farah are world class. Lawrence is learning in defence, though poorly supplied in attack. Galloway is bordering on Aus and will be a mainstay shortly.

Unfortunately we let go a number of quality players (does Bronson still have more offloads vs WT?) and as such had some players of limited quality.

I have a massive massive issue with bringing players who would have been first year fleggers straight into first grade and expecting them to be up to the standard of guys who were out and out freaks at their age level. It seems you guys expect our current crop of average 20s to be as good as our old juniors who murdered their own level. Anyone remember that cubs fixture? Different playing field to our 20s.

We should celebrate our good players, instead we have to sit here and watch as they are let down by mis-management and lack of quality in crucial positions.

 

[gronkathon]

You don't rate Ayshford westie. Thats fine.

Collis will prove what a worthless player he is next season as he has for the past two with Wests Tigers

 

[N.C.]

Sure, but let's not completely write the kids off when they do get their start and show that they're up to it, even if they're not setting the world on fire just yet.

 

[N.C.]

You don't rate Ayshford westie. Thats fine.

Collis will prove what a worthless player he is next season as he has for the past two with Wests Tigers

Collis will be a walk up starter at the Sharks and will do well for the change of scenery. If he can maintain his fitness for a full season he will get his confidence back in spades. He'll be something special by the time he hits his late 20's. We'll all be looking back one day saying "why did we let him go?" and cursing the pathetic recruitment of the Tigers.

 

[nomarg]

Collis will be a walk up starter at the Sharks and will do well for the change of scenery. If he can maintain his fitness for a full season he will get his confidence back in spades. He'll be something special by the time he hits his late 20's. We'll all be looking back one day saying "why did we let him go?" and cursing the pathetic recruitment of the Tigers.

He cant defend for $hite.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[aids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCh6dB439k

 

[N.C.]

He cant defend for $hite.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I seem to recall him being a pretty solid defender a few seasons back, but that all seemed to come unstuck this season. That stands to reason, given the time he's spent nursing injuries and the changes to the speed of the game in the last year.

Not sure I'd agree with your assessment overall.

That said, I'm well past being sentimental about his departure. I think it's best for all. I doubt he'll immediately disappear into obscurity though.

 

[nomarg]

I seem to recall him being a pretty solid defender a few seasons back, but that all seemed to come unstuck this season. That stands to reason, given the time he's spent nursing injuries and the changes to the speed of the game in the last year.

Not sure I'd agree with your assessment overall.

That said, I'm well past being sentimental about his departure. I think it's best for all. I doubt he'll immediately disappear into obscurity though.

He had 1 very solid defensive game for us toward the end of the year- if Ricky can teach him to reproduce that consitently then he will be an above average first grader...but he has had 3 years ( or more) to produce with us and was eating up cap space...

 

[alien]

With Presto signing a new 2 year deal I think that Zillman would be the odd man out.

He would be just lovely for the Tigers.

1. Zillman
2. TT
3. Ayshford
4. Lawrie
5. Ryan

6. Benjamin
7. Moltzen

14. Taumata

With Daniela, Brown, Lazarus, Lui, Hanbury and Mullaney for back up

Just a thought.

Bubbles

Hi Bubbles.

I have a feeling that Sheens doesn't want to sign players that are injury prone, unless it's on the NRL minimum wage. There's no way Zillman will sign with us for a NRL minimum wage. I think that was the main reason we didn't offer more ca$h to Peni. We kept Lazarus but I don't think he would be on much and hopefully he starts at fullback during the trials next year and doesn't get injured.

 

[bubblesunlimited]

Alien,

I just hope Moltzen is given a fair crack at 7, he is only a kid and needs to spend time in the one position.

I also hope that Taumata can keep his head screwed on and settle down to playing good footy.

 

[alien]

Alien,

I just hope Moltzen is given a fair crack at 7, he is only a kid and needs to spend time in the one position.

I also hope that Taumata can keep his head screwed on and settle down to playing good footy.

I hope Sheens keeps Moltz in the halves. I wanted him there at the start of 2008. I saw Moltzen play in the lower grades.

Taumata will be good value for us if he stays out of trouble! I think Sheens could have a good effect on him. He can play fullback, centre or in the halves if we get an injury there. Possibly our number 14.