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SIMPSONS MAFIA (Game Thread)

butchmcdick

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Rebel said:
Guys the more I think about it, the more certain I am that JM is a townie. It makes NO sense for him to randomly claim that he has had someone try to kill him twice, if he was mafia.

Why would he put himself in the spotlight?
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I agree it makes no sense.

I have to admit I pissed myself laughing when I read Jason's first message about somebody trying to kill him (come at me bro). Then the more I thought about it the more i couldn't work out why a character wouldn't die unless a) somebody chose to save then ( say a Dr Hibbert) or b) just like last game the DON couldn't die if his number two was alive.

Then I thought this whole people trying to kill me thing could be a fantastic ruse to throw everybody off. When pressed Jason seemed evausive about his role.

Jason could very well be Apu or he could be anybody. Right now though he is ringing a few alarm bells for me.
 
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Yeah, the only way I can see jm being mafia is if he is the don who can't die unless someone else dies. Eg, maybe he is burns and has a rule that he can't die unless Smithers dies.

In which case, he knows that by claiming 'people want me dead' will encourage suspicion. Which, he doesn't care about because he knows he is safe. Therefore, others in his fraction are not targetted.

The alternative is, he is a townie who has a power whereby he can save himself or somehow knows when someone tries to kill him.

Either way, lynching him seems like a lose lose situation.
 
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butchmcdick said:
I agree it makes no sense.

I have to admit I pissed myself laughing when I read Jason's first message about somebody trying to kill him (come at me bro). Then the more I thought about it the more i couldn't work out why a character wouldn't die unless a) somebody chose to save then ( say a Dr Hibbert) or b) just like last game the DON couldn't die if his number two was alive.

Then I thought this whole people trying to kill me thing could be a fantastic ruse to throw everybody off. When pressed Jason seemed evausive about his role.

Jason could very well be Apu or he could be anybody. Right now though he is ringing a few alarm bells for me.
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It wouldn't throw people off though... especially in a game like this where everyone suspects everyone. One little comment can spiral out of control. JM seems to have played this game before and would surely know this...

Lol im contradicting myself now... Now im starting to believe he is mafia, but knows he will be safe if lynched.

You would have to be pretty dumb to randomly say "Hey guys, I know someone tried to kill me" if you didn't have some kind of safety net.
 
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Rebel said:
You would have to be pretty dumb to randomly say "Hey guys, I know someone tried to kill me" if you didn't have some kind of safety net.
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Edit: Unless you had the power to save yourself in both the night and day phase.
 
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WHALL15 - 3 votes (DB, Rebel, Frederick)
BDR - 2 votes (Cliffhanger, Hallatia)
APEY - 1 vote (Monk)
JASON MAHER - 8 votes (soc123_au, Apey, 9701, thorson1987, butchmcdick, AlwaysGreen, BDR, whall15)
ALWAYSGREEN - 1 vote (Jason Maher)

Jason Maher is 2 votes away from being lynched.
 
Apey

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Hallatia said:
that's not a reason to lynch him. You're making yourself look more sus. The reason I chose not to kill him despite his being suspicious is because there are others I am more certain are enemies to the town
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you're doing a very good job at shifting attention to others Halla, but you don't have everyone fooled.
 
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If JM can stay alive on the basis of his offsider being alive .. Has he been drawing attention away from anyone? That's the one we should be going for.

I also don't rate the 'I guess we will find out' logic of voting .. Why waste a vote just because we want to see a random outcome? I think we are doing a better job of reasoning and coming up with potential mafia that way.
 
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Gas Panic! said:
If JM can stay alive on the basis of his offsider being alive .. Has he been drawing attention away from anyone? That's the one we should be going for.

I also don't rate the 'I guess we will find out' logic of voting .. Why waste a vote just because we want to see a random outcome? I think we are doing a better job of reasoning and coming up with potential mafia that way.
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It could potentially be Whall... Whall gets targeted, then JM makes the comment that throws himself under the bus.

Also, JM is second in the voting behind whall. Logically, you would think, that in order to at least help himself, he would vote for whall too.

Instead he casts a random vote that isn't gunna do anything. Seems suss.
 
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In summary with JM and his comments, there are three outcomes I believe:

1) He is Mafia, but is able to stay alive on the basis of his offside living (Or similar),
2) He is Town, but has the ability to save himself,
3) He is either and has no safety net and did the whole "Someone tried to kill me twice" thing to throw people off guard but it has backfired on him.
 
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He voted for whall in the early rounds, just not sure what the tally of voting was at the point he did so.
 
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If he's town and has the ability to save himself, or has no safety net, not sure why he would draw attention to himself. As a seasoned player, he said early on that townies drawing attention to themselves without good reason are often unfairly targeted. He would have done so himself with good reason.

Perhaps your first theory fits best.
 
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Its funny those who persecuted BM early in the game are suddenly rushing to JMs defense, claiming 'why lynch just for the sake of lynching'. Seems a little off to me. Either way JM isn't an idiot. He was acting the way he was for a reason. And were all afraid of what we don't understand.

Change Vote: Jason Maher
 
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Monk said:
Its funny those who persecuted BM early in the game are suddenly rushing to JMs defense, claiming 'why lynch just for the sake of lynching'. Seems a little off to me. Either way JM isn't an idiot. He was acting the way he was for a reason. And were all afraid of what we don't understand.

Change Vote: Jason Maher
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I agree with this, which is part of the reason why I didn't go after BM at all this game. But some of the other reasoning for voting JM was saying things to the effect of, if you can't die, you'll survive, if you're really town, we'll find out when you're dead - that to me is very counter-intuitive and very witch trialesque.
 
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Change Vote: Jason Maher

Some compelling arguments, and now I'm really curious to find out what her he was a bad guy or a good guy
 
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The case against Jason Maher was compelling. Even with his innocent pleas, it seemed naught against the Town, who were fighting to change their recent fortunes.

Sadly for the Town, they found the answer they didn't want. As much as he tried to say otherwise.

By the many arms of Vishnu, I swear it is a lie.

Alas, it was his end.

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JASON MAHER IS DEAD
HE WAS APU NAHASAPEEMAPETILON
 
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