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Sin binning.

Big Marn

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...s-nrl-refs-over-sinbinning-in-loss-to-cowboys

Refs cant win.
After being severely criticised for not using sinbin, when they did use it, they get this bs from Arthur. Looking at the film, it looked pretty blatant and was completely justifiable so dont know what he is whinging about.

And they always use the same line that fans were robbed of an even contest to put the pressure on the refs to stop making these calls. The games not going to improve if coaches react like this each time a correct decision goes against them, and the media use it as their main headline.
 
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...s-nrl-refs-over-sinbinning-in-loss-to-cowboys

Refs cant win.
After being severely criticised for not using sinbin, when they did use it, they get this bs from Arthur. Looking at the film, it looked pretty blatant and was completely justifiable so dont know what he is whinging about.

And they always use the same line that fans were robbed of an even contest to put the pressure on the refs to stop making these calls. The games not going to improve if coaches react like this each time a correct decision goes against them, and the media use it as their main headline.


$10k fine?
 

SpaceMonkey

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It was absolutely the right call, Arthur should shut his trap. The situation was near identical to the one with Hoffman in the Roosters game which the majority of people, as well as the refs boss all agreed should have incurred a binning.
 

Hauff

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Yeah, he is on a loser there. We all know it's time for that to be a sin bin call.

Now the obstruction ruling is worth discussing. To their credit the league had been very consistent in its application, but it still galls to see the interpretation in force where something irrelevant to the play is called an obstruction and costs a try.

Sure, everyone knows the current interpretation and will have to adapt, but in their quest for black and white, they've thrown out common sense.
 

jaseg

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That actually makes me a little angry. The match officials catch an awful lot of crap (and rightfully so) when they're wrong - but when they're right (and they were very clearly right based on both the rules and previous calls - or, in the case of our game vs Roosters, Archer's clarification of a mistake) they shouldn't have to deal with that nonsense. This sort of stuff is what the fine system should actually be used for.. not for stopping refs getting slammed when they're actually in the wrong.

"I think everyone's been robbed of a good game of football."

Yep, I agree, they were robbed of a good game - but by Corey Norman, not the match officials. Take it up with your player f***stick.
 

WithTheDawn

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Totally the right call. As annoying as it is that they got this wrong with our game, it's good to see hen being consistent with it since then. Taking a player out as he is about to or is very likely to score a try should always be a sin bin. I don't mind the penalty try call needing even more conclusive evidence, but for a sin bin just the intention of taking the player who may score out without the ball is good enough for me. Crappy negative play that needs to be stamped out of the game. A penalty is obviously not sufficient enough a punishment to stop teams doing this - knowing you will likely be sin binned however is.

As for Arthur here, what a clown. His player robbed the fans of the even contest, not the refs.
 

Blair

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What happens if a player does a professional foul with a minute to go on the clock? Is it a sin bin, penalty try, or neither? At most it sounds like it would be a sin bin, which could win the game for the offending player and team.
 
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What happens if a player does a professional foul with a minute to go on the clock? Is it a sin bin, penalty try, or neither? At most it sounds like it would be a sin bin, which could win the game for the offending player and team.

Fair call and a conundrum really.
But with the new black and white rules, if not a certain try, eg ball sitting still in goal no chance of going out of bouncing some magical angle, it would be a sin bin only. From what we have seen so far this year.
Depending on when in foul play if it goes to judiciary.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Archer admits Ayshford shouldn't have been binned. That's two incorrect sin bin calls against us in a month. We better get some square ups.
 

jaseg

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Archer admits Ayshford shouldn't have been binned. That's two incorrect sin bin calls against us in a month. We better get some square ups.

I believe that's 4 for the season now (might be exaggerated in my head.. perhaps only 3)? From 8 games - with none of those bad-enough-to-admit-publicly mistakes going the other way. Awesome. Wish Cappy had the balls to pull a Robinson... he's got a better case than the Roosters did.
 

SpaceMonkey

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I don't think it would've been a good week for Cappy to speak up on the subject. But In a game where we competed, sure.
 

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