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Slater and Inglis - the best ever?

cyberdj

Juniors
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If a player makes a break against the storm you can be certain Slater will get them. On the goal line he is nearly always there to try and wrap up the ball and is far more successful at this than any other fullback bar maybe Hodgsen when he was still over here.

On a long run from the opposition, Cronk is more likely to be the one to run an opponent down, not Slater.
 

Loudstrat

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Which are both incredibly important for a modern day fullback.

Of course lets just ignore hes fantastic support play (hes ability to time his run onto kicks is second to none), great cover defense and goal line defense and the ability to read attacking kicks (mostly grubbers) better than any other fullback i have watched.

The only real criticism of Slater is that he makes the occasional mistake. That is fair enough but he makes a sh*tload of great plays that more than makes up for that.

I think the fact that his defense is completely overlooked is the most annoying thing. He gets compared to fullbacks like Stewart, Hayne and Hunt but none of them are even close to Slater when it comes to defense.

If a player makes a break against the storm you can be certain Slater will get them. On the goal line he is nearly always there to try and wrap up the ball and is far more successful at this than any other fullback bar maybe Hodgsen when he was still over here.

Agree with everything but your defence assessment. He wasn't really efective againbst Grothe and Fiu in the GF. Still sh*ts on cutie though.

You're saying Johns/Fittler was a club combo? :?
No - unless you can tell me for which club doofus.

Nevertheless Daley/Staurt were a club combo who were also better than Johns/Fittler AND Sterling/Kenny at Origin level. (Arguably Langer/Lewis too)
Sterling/Kenny was the best club combo ever - twice the premierships of Stuart and Daley.

Meninga > Inglis
Mullins AND Belcher > Slater
 

WireMan

Bench
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King has reached the pinacle of any players career, playing for the mighty Wire!

Slater is overrated, he is good at finishing moves but that is about it, his dangerous slide tackle technique is very good though, as his his crying like a baby when he doesn't get his own way.

Inglis is the best rugby player in the world, stop him and you stop Australia/Melbourne.
 
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Agree with everything but your defence assessment. He wasn't really efective againbst Grothe and Fiu in the GF. Still sh*ts on cutie though.

No - unless you can tell me for which club doofus.

Sterling/Kenny was the best club combo ever - twice the premierships of Stuart and Daley.

Meninga > Inglis
Mullins AND Belcher > Slater

Well you threw Johns/Fittler out there like they were a club combo. I wasn't sure what you were trying to say. Clarify yourself next time.

And Sterling/Kenny might of been a better club combo, but Stuart/Daley were the absolute best rep combo ever.
 

thuggdogg

Juniors
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Slater is not overrated.

I'd have him in my side any day.

Apart from having black man pace and fast twitch fibres, Slater is also incredibly agile,

Some of those steps he does are so tight and refined i drop my jaw.

Speedwise he is super quick but by no means the fastest.

In a 100metre dash against someone like Eric Grothe (Jnr) i would confidently back Eric over Slater and by a considerable distance too.

But Slats is the better player because he has that agile quality and 'nippysh*t' that not many players except maybe some of the aboriginies in the game like Bowen have.


Id rather take Slater at tree fiddy a season than Hayne train at four fiddy a year.

equal money...dont make me choose

just dont make me choose man.
 

hilltop hood

Juniors
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I'm surprised more wasn't made of Haynes pace during Origin this year.

When he took that intercept, carrying the ball, he smoked Billy before the halfway line.

Still, Billy is the best fullback I have ever seen.
 

1999

Juniors
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who cares we love them in storm colours and thats all that matters, no one out there would konock these 2 back for their club
 

thuggdogg

Juniors
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Oh to be 10 years old again.

NO player (except maybe like 5) would measure up to any player in the last fideen years.

If you took the australian team from 1982 and gave it a match against austrlia 2009 it would be 80-0 to the 2009 team.

Reasons are clear:

-The professionalisation of the game (biggest reason)
-better nutritionalism
-more advanced weight training concepts- male mountains
-the player scouting game downpat
-advanced mathematical process to junior development, the kids are taken to a special place and groomed from a young age
-more blacks in the game (natural 'meat' if you will)
-professional attitude to coaching (i.e no more of the 'if you score a try you get a beer' approach)
- clinical advancements.....even sumpin simple like the cutout spiral pass....... this didnt exist before Steve Walters or Ricky Jones circa 1992. NEVER would a winger take a bomb AFL style then. Come to think of it..... did they even do bombs then?



Just look how skinny and crap the players looked then compared to the sexy impressive physaiques today.


The conclusion......... SLATER (probably) *IS* THA BEST FULLBACK THE WORLD HAS SEEN...............
 

Big Time

Juniors
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Are Billy Slater and Greg Inglis the best two backs ever to play on the same team?


Do you take drugs or is the just taking the p*ss?? The fact that Gasnier & Langlands are immortals and happened to have played in the same team would suggest they would have been better. Since then there has been many more. Look at the Canberra back line in late 80's early 90's. Parramatta had Grothe, Ella, Cronin, Kenny and Sterling in one backline.
 

dannyboy

Juniors
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NO player (except maybe like 5) would measure up to any player in the last fideen years.

If you took the australian team from 1982 and gave it a match against austrlia 2009 it would be 80-0 to the 2009 team.

Reasons are clear:

-The professionalisation of the game (biggest reason)
-better nutritionalism
-more advanced weight training concepts- male mountains
-the player scouting game downpat
-advanced mathematical process to junior development, the kids are taken to a special place and groomed from a young age
-more blacks in the game (natural 'meat' if you will)
-professional attitude to coaching (i.e no more of the 'if you score a try you get a beer' approach)
- clinical advancements.....even sumpin simple like the cutout spiral pass....... this didnt exist before Steve Walters or Ricky Jones circa 1992. NEVER would a winger take a bomb AFL style then. Come to think of it..... did they even do bombs then?



Just look how skinny and crap the players looked then compared to the sexy impressive physaiques today.


The conclusion......... SLATER (probably) *IS* THA BEST FULLBACK THE WORLD HAS SEEN...............

Too many flaws...ya gotta be yanking my chain.

2009 v 1982 - what rules do we play under? The 2009 Nancy Boy ones where you have 3 runs and take a 10 minute interchange rest, you fart loudly and get a two week suspension or 80's style natural attrition with some special treatment allowance?

Did they bomb? Homework for you: Bomber Peard

Skinny? Mal, Crow, Wombat

Slater isn't even the best of the noughties.

Yep - definitely yanking my chain
 

Gippsy

Bench
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Inglis may be considered in an all time greatest team ever, time will tell.

Slater? No chance. I can name Langlands, Eadie, Brentnall & Lockyer who are better fullbacks, without even trying. These are players I've seen, and apparently there was a little fella called Churchill who was pretty handy. Slater might make a top 10 list of fullbacks, but the best ever? Not even close.
 

typicalfan

Coach
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Fittler and Minichiello? they are as good or better, i lean toward the latter. Lockyer/Hodges, probably not quite as good but close. They are just this decade last decade you had Meninga/Daley as a centres combo then a centre/6 combo. Brandy/Freddy is another.

So I say not quite. Slater needs to prove himself consistently in big games to get to the level of a few of the others mentioned here.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Is this not you.

Yes or no.
No. Was about 5 years ago though. When was that quote taken from - and why the sad life you lead that makes you go back many years to find one thread?

Look hard, you might find one saying Orford will never leave Melbourne. :crazy:
 

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