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Tiger05

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WESTS TIGERS skipper Robbie Farah hailed his club's roster as superior to the one that took out the 2005 premiership title. The star-studded squad's great challenge now is to emulate the feat of the no-frills mob that entered footy folklore.

The Tigers of '05, who were 80/1 longshots to win the grand final halfway through that season, came in $600,000 under the salary cap because the club had no cash to spend. The squad consisted of journeymen, rejects from other clubs and a group of precocious young guns whose fearlessness was summed up by Benji Marshall's famous flick pass that set Pat Richards up for a grand final-clinching try.
Farah, who was 21 when he completed that lap of honour after beating the Cowboys, said that unlike Mark O'Neill and Scott Prince - his captains during 2005 - he headed a team stacked with internationals, experience, skill and an exciting blend of youth.

''The potential is there for us to do something,'' Farah said. ''We're a lot more balanced team now. We've been together for a few years, [whereas] we were thrown together in 2005. We have balance in the right positions. We have internationals, experienced first-graders and, just like we did in 2004-05, we have a group of some very exciting young players, like [prop] Matt Groat. As a squad we're definitely better. I think this is a better side than the one we had in 2005. Whether we have the same success we had back then, well, I guess we'll find out over the next few weeks."

The Tigers are equal-third favourites with Brisbane to win the title, behind Melbourne and Manly. ''I'd appreciate it [a title] a lot more now,'' Farah said. ''I was 21 back then. Liam Fulton and 'Gibbo' [Bryce Gibbs] were 21, while Benji was 20. We hadn't played much first grade and it was like 'how easy is that?' [to win the title] and you fall into the trap of thinking it was going to happen again soon. It doesn't. We've only played finals footy once since then. So, I appreciate, and I understand, how hard it is to win a competition. To win another one would be very, very special.''

The Tigers, who thrashed the Gold Coast at Campbelltown on Monday night are on a mission to secure a home final when they face the Sharks at Cronulla on Saturday night. Farah said one of the club's match-day strengths was never falling into the trap of ''leave it all to Marshall'', the Kiwis Test skipper acknowledged as the most exciting playmaker in the game.

''The luxury we have here at the Tigers is there's myself, Benji and [halfback] Rob Lui as well, and we take pressure off each other,'' he said. ''If we just gave Benji the ball every time it would become easy for other teams to read. With me in the middle, Benji on the left and Robbie on the right, they don't know … what we're going to do.

''Each of us are capable of doing things that could upset the opposition and we have to take advantage of that. I think if you asked Benji, the fact Robbie and I can take some ball off him allows him to come into the game more when he wants to come into it, rather than being forced to always come up with the big play.

''But when you know Benji is on fire and in that zone, you just give him the ball. Though, there are those other games where you know you need to help balance it out.''

Farah had put his shoulders into his job as skipper this year. After he set himself the goal to improve his defence, he headed into tomorrow's match having made 759 tackles for the season, 129 more than second-placed Chris Heighington.

Farah said he had practised his defensive game by getting the big Tigers forwards to run at him. ''I challenged myself," he said.
 

Matchball

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Our attack and defense is much better than in 05.
We scraped through on Benji brilliance and our defense was crap.

We are much better in 11, balanced attack that's not one dimensional and our defense is the best i have seen in years.
Also, our knack for falling asleep for 20 mins a game has been reduced to 10 mins.
 

N.C.

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How many Tigers made the Kiwi test side that won the Tri-Nations in 2005?
 

hutch

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Prince > Lui
Hodgson>Moltzen
Richards>Beau

I'll take the 2005 side thanks....

You can counter that by Lawrence and ayshford > elford and whateria (spelling????). Benji 2011 is 5 times better than benji 05, lote > fitzhenry, ellis > oneill., heighington, farah, Gibbs much better than their 2005 versions. Id say we are a better team, definately more depth!
 

BuffaloRules

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You can counter that by Lawrence and ayshford > elford and whateria (spelling????). Benji 2011 is 5 times better than benji 05, lote > fitzhenry, ellis > oneill., heighington, farah, Gibbs much better than their 2005 versions. Id say we are a better team, definately more depth!

Great.. that should mean that the 2011 version can win 4 finals by a combined score of 130 odd to 30 like the 2005 side did...
 

super_coach

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They probably are but the teams we have to play are probably better to. Will mean bugger all if we dont beat the sharks tonight and beat them well
 

Tiger05

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I think we have better players on the whole however Farah has gone backwards and we have lost Prince & Hodgo.

So our key players are worse other than Benji who is 10 times better. I think apart from that our overall squad has improved significantly.
 

ceagle

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The ruck has completely changed since 2005, that was the main thing in favor of the 2005 Tigers.
 
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Hodgo v Moltzen
Richards v Ryan
Whatuira v Lawrence
Elford v Ayshford
Fitzy v Tuquri
Marshall v Marshall
Prince v Lui
Halatau v Heighno
O'Neill v Ellis
Galea v Dwyer
Skando v Galloway
Farah v Farah
Laffranchi v Gibbs
 
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N.C.

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Looking over the archives it looks like it was just Whatuira. I thought there were more...
 

chopsy_05

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Heighno came off the bench. Galea started and in my opinion should've won the Churchill medal
 

madunit

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2011 Team shits on 2005 team.

Across the field, the 2011 teams is more reliable than the 2005 side.
 
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Hodgson vs Moltzen
Fitzhenry vs Ryan
Elford vs Ayshford
Whatuira vs Lawrence
Richards vs Tuqiri
Marshall vs Marshall
Prince vs Lui
Laffranchi vs Gibbs
Farah vs Farah
Skandalis vs Galloway
Galea vs Fulton
O'Neill vs Ellis
Halatau vs Heighington

Fulton vs Brown
Heighington vs Payten
Payten vs Groat
Gibbs vs Woods
 

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