Hurriflatch said:it just means that we can't bring up any more juniors.
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Hurriflatch said:it just means that we can't bring up any more juniors.
supermario said:the dally M ladder and his performance this year proves that canberra didn't do enough to help finch grow as a player !
fibro man said:I'm glad you added those few words in brackets next to the name Finch.
Southernsaint said:supermario said:the dally M ladder and his performance this year proves that canberra didn't do enough to help finch grow as a player !
As opposed to any natural development that would have occured as a young player matures??
Cheers,
Ben S.
supermario said:Southernsaint said:supermario said:the dally M ladder and his performance this year proves that canberra didn't do enough to help finch grow as a player !
As opposed to any natural development that would have occured as a young player matures??
Cheers,
Ben S.
even natural talent needs development, a naturally gifted player can only go so far before he has to learn things to get better, do you think andrew johns and brad fittler were always as good as they are ?????
Balmain_Boy said:I'm not going to hate on the roosters. I can't be bothered.
The only thing that sh*ts me is the Roosters' supporters claiming they develop players into top first graders, and noone else is capable of it. FFS get over yourselves.
You forgot to add that WE along with the Broncos and the knights, actually turn these kids into first-graders. Anyone can throw a jersey on a kids back and call them a junior, but how many clubs out there actually turn these great,young kids into first graders ?
Balmain_Boy said:You forgot to add that WE along with the Broncos and the knights, actually turn these kids into first-graders. Anyone can throw a jersey on a kids back and call them a junior, but how many clubs out there actually turn these great,young kids into first graders ?
THAT'S the attitude that pisses me off. Maybe if the Roosters weren't ipcking the eyes out of the talent other clubs would be able to. Like I said, there's no point in having a problem with the roosters - you have a lot of money at present and are using it very wisely. The attitude that says the Roosters are the masters of developing talent pisses me off. Especially when you haven't even developed them (even using developed as loosely as roosters' supporters do). Not saying it's all of you, but it seems a majority.
1) Minichello - Yes (I'll give the roosters this one)
2) Walker - No.
3) Cross - Yes.
4) Hodges - No.
5) Byrne - No (You may have developed him but he's so sh*t it's not worth mentioning)
6) Fittler - No
7) Finch, - No
8) Cayless - No
9) Wing - No
10) Morley - No
11) Fitzgibbon - No
12) Crocker - No
13) Ricketson - Yes
14) Webb - Yes
15) Flannery - No
16) Catic - No
17) Cusack - Yes
18) Tupou - Maybe
5 or 6 from 18. What's more, none of them are your stars. Tell me where all the juniors that you've turned into first graders are OVP? Maybe if Roosters' supporters weren't so f***ing arrogant people wouldn't whinge so much.
supermario said:Balmain_Boy said:Jason cayless: no opportunities at parra playing off the bench, now first string prop at the roosters
Chad robinson: Again no opportunities at parra, playing mostly premier league, now always picked in the first grade side at the roosters wether on the bench or in the starting side.
Ned catic: Nothing more that a premier league bench player at penrith, now, like robbo, always picked in the first grade squad.
Stuart webb: Same again but came through cronulla and wests, this year has been a constant feature in the roosters first grade side.
So by this standard I guess the Raiders can claim they "developed" Schifcofske, Mogg, Hodgson, Smith, Ohara? All of them were not playing first grade and had limited opportunities.
I Bleed Green said:OVP said:Its a shame that someone like Jamie Soward cant taste first grade this year, but there's always next year. OH well dems da breaks. At least we stick to the rules tho ... well done Roosters management !! ;-)
Yeah I feel for poor Jamie, especially considering you bred him as a junior.
Oh wait. ;-)![]()
Edwahu said:supermario said:Balmain_Boy said:Jason cayless: no opportunities at parra playing off the bench, now first string prop at the roosters
Chad robinson: Again no opportunities at parra, playing mostly premier league, now always picked in the first grade side at the roosters wether on the bench or in the starting side.
Ned catic: Nothing more that a premier league bench player at penrith, now, like robbo, always picked in the first grade squad.
Stuart webb: Same again but came through cronulla and wests, this year has been a constant feature in the roosters first grade side.
So by this standard I guess the Raiders can claim they "developed" Schifcofske, Mogg, Hodgson, Smith, Ohara? All of them were not playing first grade and had limited opportunities.
if that is the case edwahu then yes.
if a player has limited learning opportunities they have to look some where else to grow.
Some players can stay inthe one place and become something from there, others need to move to become better.
i'm not saying that the roosters "develop ' all players what i am saying is that the roosters have a successful development and scouting program.
Edwahu said:supermario said:Balmain_Boy said:Jason cayless: no opportunities at parra playing off the bench, now first string prop at the roosters
Chad robinson: Again no opportunities at parra, playing mostly premier league, now always picked in the first grade side at the roosters wether on the bench or in the starting side.
Ned catic: Nothing more that a premier league bench player at penrith, now, like robbo, always picked in the first grade squad.
Stuart webb: Same again but came through cronulla and wests, this year has been a constant feature in the roosters first grade side.
So by this standard I guess the Raiders can claim they "developed" Schifcofske, Mogg, Hodgson, Smith, Ohara? All of them were not playing first grade and had limited opportunities.
Only if you're a roosters' fan mate ;-)
Balmain_Boy said:Crocker and Flannery weren't developed by the roosters in my book.
Have you heard of natural progression of a first grader? There are tiger's players that have become better players at our club, but I would NEVER claim we developed them. It's this funny thing where players get better with age and experience. As in at a certain age they peak - if you buy them before this age they will get better funnily enough.
There's no point arguing with you. I'm not even bagging the club, I don't think they're doing anything wrong - they're looking after the best interests of the club, not the game, but given the oppurtunity every club would. It's your lot continually justifying some warped claim that you develop all your players, and do it better than any other club. It's called buying top talent and allowing it to naturally develop. I seriously won't be surprised when Joel Monoghan plays origin in 3 years, to see you claim you developed him from a solid first grader to an origin star.