"South East QLD Titans"

[Vee]

Should end up with cheaper rent.

QLD government want their Stadium used.

Nice PR.

Fake threat.

Spot on, the Titans are in the process of getting a better stadium deal from the government so this is just an empty threat.

Has everyone forgotten already that Parramatta threatened a similar thing earlier this year when negotiating their stadium deal.

I thought GC renegotiated their stadium deal only last year or two when GA was there.

 

[Vee]

We absolutely should expand to Adelaide, like Perth, Adelaide has a strong sports attendance culture which is why clubs like the Crows, Power and Strikers all get good crowds.

The Strikers get good crowds?

 

[mongoose]

Thats not true..
not bagging raiders crowds but here's a table for last years stadiums averages for last years regular season

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you'll see that Robina is a couple thousand higher than Canberra and also better than shark park and Brookvale, and basically on par with ANZ.

Like other posters have said, despite the media's dribble the gold coasts problem is not their crowds (relative to other clubs), its the actual organisation, moving it an hour north will do nothing but sabotage a chance at a second Brisbane team that can actually compete with the Broncos and alienate the fans on the coast. Lose-Lose

Apparently Robina has to get Broncos like crowds but it's perfectly good for the NRL that Manly gets 8k per game in their dump of a stadium or for the Sharks to get 13k per game the year after they win a premiership....

 

[ReddFelon]

The Strikers get good crowds?

2013-2018 their lowest crowd average was 23,000. Highest was 44,000 and most seasons they're in the mid 30,000s so yeah.

 

[Quicksilver]

Apparently Robina has to get Broncos like crowds but it's perfectly good for the NRL that Manly gets 8k per game in their dump of a stadium or for the Sharks to get 13k per game the year after they win a premiership....

Has nothing to do with the NRL.

But yes, move the Sharks and Eagles. That’ll help the Titans get better.

 

[southwalesrabbitoh]

I quite like the idea of them changing their name to the South Queensland Bears, but playing 12 match in Gold Coast and being based there and playing 4 in BrisVaygus. Get rid of the Warriors and the Sharks, have them in the NSW Cup though, obviously. 14 team NRL. Stephen Kearney to coach the Bears.

 

[ReddFelon]

Apparently Robina has to get Broncos like crowds but it's perfectly good for the NRL that Manly gets 8k per game in their dump of a stadium or for the Sharks to get 13k per game the year after they win a premiership....

No it isn't perfectly fine, we've been trying to get a solution for the Brookvale stadium problem for over a decade. Barrett doing everything he could to demolish Manly's identity didn't help either. Yet still we have 4000 more members than the Titans and despite the Penn's haven't ever been as financially mismanaged as the Gold Coast.

It is absolutely unacceptable for a single city team in a League heartland region to be struggling to the degree that the Titans do.

 

[BadnMean]

Thats not true..
not bagging raiders crowds but here's a table for last years stadiums averages for last years regular season



you'll see that Robina is a couple thousand higher than Canberra and also better than shark park and Brookvale, and basically on par with ANZ.

Like other posters have said, despite the media's dribble the gold coasts problem is not their crowds (relative to other clubs), its the actual organisation, moving it an hour north will do nothing but sabotage a chance at a second Brisbane team that can actually compete with the Broncos and alienate the fans on the coast. Lose-Lose

Aha. I was going off numbers from during this season. carry on.

 

[T-Boon]

That's because Americans are stupid and have many many redundant names.
Houston vs Texas
Florida vs Tampa Bay.

If we go down that route we are officially fuxked.

Americans are stupid?
They invented TV, the internet, computers, planes and the car. I could go on and on.
All their sports are massive and hugely successful.
If we put America in charge of the NRL it would be the biggest sport in the country within 2 years and every team would be playing in front of 30k plus crowds.
The NRL should be run by way of simply copying everything that American sport does.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Apparently Robina has to get Broncos like crowds but it's perfectly good for the NRL that Manly gets 8k per game in their dump of a stadium or for the Sharks to get 13k per game the year after they win a premiership....

People are too focused on crowds.

Crowds are not the main issue, wider support is. How many members, how many people watch them on TV?

Sure, you want decent crowds, but you more importantly you need a wide supporter base.

 

[T-Boon]

I think SQ Titans should spread their games like this:
Robina 5 games
Suncorp 5 games
Toowoomba 2 games

They should change there colours to red and black and have one jersey. Focus on building a strong Qld identity.

 

[T-Boon]

Arguably the biggest problem for the Titans has been the sustained agressive progression of Melbourne as a super power and the second (actually first) Qld team during the exact time the Titans were trying to establish themselves.
Take those stinking peices of crap out of the equation and both the Broncos and the Titans would have had pretty strong squads over the last 15 years full of Queenslands best.
With any luck Cameron Smiths body falls apart in the next 12 months and Bellamy jumps ship and so then guys like Munster end up at one of either Broncos or Titans.

 

[flippikat]

They should change there colours to red and black and have one jersey. Focus on building a strong Qld identity.

South Qld Spiders. Red & black. Logo of a menacing black spider on a red background?

 

[T-Boon]

Cam Smith, Billy Slater, Munster, Cronk, Folou, Chambers...the list probably goes on.
Most of these guys should have been divided up between the Broncos and Titans. Had they been, the Titans would have been a lot more competitive and would have been building their culture off locals.

 

[Vee]

2013-2018 their lowest crowd average was 23,000. Highest was 44,000 and most seasons they're in the mid 30,000s so yeah.

Okay, I misread Strikers for Reds. Those are all traditional sports.
I would think an Adelaide RL team would be more comparable to the Reds.

 

[greenBV4]

Cam Smith, Billy Slater, Munster, Cronk, Folou, Chambers...the list probably goes on.
Most of these guys should have been divided up between the Broncos and Titans. Had they been, the Titans would have been a lot more competitive and would have been building their culture off locals.

Sure they are all Queenslanders but are any actually gold coast locals? Munster's from Rockhampton, Chambers grew up in the NT, Folou is from Sydney then moved to Brisbane, Slater grew up in Innisfail, and Smith is from Logan. If not for the Storm, most if not all of them would of more likely played for Brisbane or North Queensland than the Titans.

Between the Gold Coast and it's RL schools and their large catchment in the Northern Rivers/North Coast of NSW, I don't know why the Titans haven't been able to develop any high level home grown talent?

 

[ReddFelon]

Okay, I misread Strikers for Reds. Those are all traditional sports.
I would think an Adelaide RL team would be more comparable to the Reds.

I don't think so, Soccer attendances across the country are always pretty bad unless you're on the top of the ladder.

Adelaide and Perth have the best sports attendances across Australia, if you go per capita they absolutely wallop every other state and it isn't for some unknown reason they just have a strong attendance culture.

The Reds and Rams both started out great and were victims of the Super League War. The Western Force used to bring in 20,000+ on the regular but aside from ARU and their farcical operations, people in Adelaide and Perth will turn on you if they feel they're being set up to fail (The Force absolutely were given they had a salary cap imposed on them that was $2 million less than other teams, ironically the same as that stupid clause thrust on the Reds to pay all visiting teams travel and accommodation expenses).

Put quite simply any time a sport in the West and South is given an honest and fair chance they show up. You only have to look at Basketball, that's not a traditional sport in Australia and get the Perth Wildcats get crowds around the 12-13,000 mark in a 15,000 seat arena and Adelaide filled their old 8,000 seater stadium so much that they've been upgraded to a 12,000 seater for this next season.


I have absolute faith that given a fair go WA and SA will not just get behind expansion teams but a decade of consistent support from the NRL and you'll have another 2 Broncos on your hands.

 

[T-Boon]

Sure they are all Queenslanders but are any actually gold coast locals? Munster's from Rockhampton, Chambers grew up in the NT, Folou is from Sydney then moved to Brisbane, Slater grew up in Innisfail, and Smith is from Logan. If not for the Storm, most if not all of them would of more likely played for Brisbane or North Queensland than the Titans.

Okay, so if Smith, Cronk and Izzy play for the Broncos then the next best guys (Ben Hunt possibly Darius Boyd, McCullouch or whoever) in theory would have been picked up by the Titans.

 

[carcharias]

Apparently Robina has to get Broncos like crowds but it's perfectly good for the NRL that Manly gets 8k per game in their dump of a stadium or for the Sharks to get 13k per game the year after they win a premiership....

Ey
We were getting 13k the year of and the year before we won a comp.

 

[greenBV4]

Okay, so if Smith, Cronk and Izzy play for the Broncos then the next best guys (Ben Hunt possibly Darius Boyd, McCullouch or whoever) in theory would have been picked up by the Titans.

or they would float around in the Brisbane development teams before being signed up by a Sydney Club, theres no rule that says Queenslander's have to play for a Queensland team.