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South Island Kea

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England lent the nswrl a handbook and did one tour which they thought would lose money but made millions in todays money around 1910

since that time they done basically nothing for rugby league. For all intents and purpose it’s an Australian controlled game now

if not for Aussie tours over the past 30 years the rfl would’ve gone broke
Could have gone bust many times here too bro.
 
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Yep we need to be more Australian and you can only be a true Australian if you don’t follow baseball and gridiron according to a specific poster’s definition about what it is to be Australian. We need to get rid of all this overseas stuff.

Honestly this is the kind of stuff best written in faeces on a wall in a psych ward.
You don't see Americans trying to make the NFL, NBA and MLB more European or Australian. You don't see the English trying to make the EPL more American or Australian.

I saw a American on YouTube discuss the Las Vegas game. He was disgusted with how much the NRL tried to Americanise the experience. He said the reason he watches NRL is because it's not American. If we want to win over Americans then we need to stop sucking up to Yanks.

How many of our teams follow bullshit American brands?

The Broncos and Cowboys are the worst of the bunch.

Americans laugh when I tell them the name of the Queensland NRL teams. It makes Australians look like wannabe Yankee sidekicks with no culture of our own. If you're happy to be a Yankee sidekick then be one, but don’t denigrate me for being proud of the country I was born in and wanting it to retain its culture.

You never answered my questions.

Would you and other Australians follow gridiron if the game was only played in Albania?

Why don't you follow the CFL?

Why is there so much support for the Lakers and Yankees but none for the Clippers and Mets?

It's not "cynical" or "negative" to think critically.
 

mongoose

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You don't see Americans trying to make the NFL, NBA and MLB more European or Australian. You don't see the English trying to make the EPL more American or Australian.

I saw a American on YouTube discuss the Las Vegas game. He was disgusted with how much the NRL tried to Americanise the experience. He said the reason he watches NRL is because it's not American. If we want to win over Americans then we need to stop sucking up to Yanks.

How many of our teams follow bullshit American brands?

The Broncos and Cowboys are the worst of the bunch.

Americans laugh when I tell them the name of the Queensland NRL teams. It makes Australians look like wannabe Yankee sidekicks with no culture of our own. If you're happy to be a Yankee sidekick then be one, but don’t denigrate me for being proud of the country I was born in and wanting it to retain its culture.

You never answered my questions.

Would you and other Australians follow gridiron if the game was only played in Albania?

Why don't you follow the CFL?

Why is there so much support for the Lakers and Yankees but none for the Clippers and Mets?

It's not "cynical" or "negative" to think critically.
Go support AFL if you love "aussie culture" so much, oh wait you already do
 

flippikat

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The OTHER South Island NRL bid have updated their facebook profile picture, featuring green & white. No nickname or logo, but could it be that the Kea bid has encouraged them to speed up developing their bid brand?
 

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Perth Red

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New Christchurch stadium a chance to add another New Zealand NRL side

Adam Burns, Reporter

One of the country's most experienced sports administrators says a South Island-based National Rugby League (NRL) club could be in action as early as 2026.

Talks are underway for the 'South Island Kea' to be included in an expanded premiership in the coming years.

The team would be based in Christchurch, with the forthcoming multi-use Te Kaha Stadium set to be completed by April 2026.

Former New Zealand Rugby and NRL boss David Moffett is helming the project and plans to meet with Australian rugby league executives over the next few weeks.

It also comes on the heels of a separate bid led by former Canterbury Rugby League administrator.

The rival ventures are now set to face off in a pursuit to bring a professional rugby league operation to the mainland.

There have been longtime advances for a second New Zealand-based club to join the premiership, alongside the New Zealand Warriors.

The Warriors are nearing 30 years of existence and have made two NRL grand finals - in 2002 and 2011 - but are yet to win a premiership.

The competition expanded to 17 teams only last year with the addition of the Dolphins, based out of Queensland's Redcliffe Peninsula.

Initial conceptions over the years proposed a Wellington-based club named the Orcas for inclusion, but this has yet come to pass.

Moffett, who has also had stints in charge of Sport England and the Welsh Rugby Union, said his interest in a South Island-based NRL club dates back to 2012.

The game' administrators had previously expressed a reluctance around the idea of a South Island franchise. But now with the forthcoming Te Kaha Stadium in central Christchurch, Moffett believed this warranted a rethink.

"A great new stadium would be a huge asset for the NRL," he said.

"No other NRL team has a covered stadium. We would bring more matches there than the Crusaders would."

Venues Otautahi chief executive Caroline Harvie-Teare said it highlighted the "positive impact for the city".

Moffett said if the NRL chose to bring forward expansion plans, they would be ready to unleash a team in 2026.

Construction of the 25,000 Te Kaha arena is expected to be completed by April of that year. This also aligns with an additional bid for an NRL club out of Papua New Guinea during this window.

"If they were inclined to have two teams then, we will be ready," Moffett said.

He believed a second club on these shores would help with the retention of local-based talent, with about half of the Australian competition made up of Māori and Pasifika players.

"There's only one New Zealand team, so they take a lot of Kiwis over there to play in the competition. We think instead of going across that ditch, they should go across the shorter ditch, the Cook Strait, and come to Christchurch."

He said the Kea also remained an icon of the South Island and was regarded as "one of the smartest of all birds".

Although only at the start of the bid's flight path, Moffett said for every ticket sold the club would give a dollar to the Save the Kea Foundation.

A fan ownership structure was also being explored.

But he admitted competition would be fierce, with other ventures across the Tasman -including a second Brisbane club, a Cairns-based Pasifika franchise, and the Firehawks, the latter a reincarnation of the Easts League Club.

This was on top of a separate operation, branded South Island NRL Bid Limited, led by former Canterbury Rugby League chairperson Tony Kidd.

It is understood Moffett previously approached Kidd to chair the operation, which was "respectfully declined".

Kidd said he proposed an alternative role to further develop a co-op proposal with South Island NRL Bid Limited.

"David indicated a preference for a comprehensive engagement or none, leading us to wish him all the best," he said. "Concurrently, we acknowledge the launch of the 'Co-Op Kea' concept, positively viewing the emergence of competition."

Moffett said he would meet with Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V'landys and NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo across the Tasman in the next fortnight.

Meanwhile, South Island NRL Bid Limited said it met with the NRL's senior leadership during the opening round in Las Vegas.

"We received encouraging support and a clear timeline regarding expansion plans."

Source: www.rnz.co.nz
 

Dark Corner

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You don't see Americans trying to make the NFL, NBA and MLB more European or Australian. You don't see the English trying to make the EPL more American or Australian.

I saw a American on YouTube discuss the Las Vegas game. He was disgusted with how much the NRL tried to Americanise the experience. He said the reason he watches NRL is because it's not American. If we want to win over Americans then we need to stop sucking up to Yanks.

How many of our teams follow bullshit American brands?

The Broncos and Cowboys are the worst of the bunch.

Americans laugh when I tell them the name of the Queensland NRL teams. It makes Australians look like wannabe Yankee sidekicks with no culture of our own. If you're happy to be a Yankee sidekick then be one, but don’t denigrate me for being proud of the country I was born in and wanting it to retain its culture.

You never answered my questions.

Would you and other Australians follow gridiron if the game was only played in Albania?

Why don't you follow the CFL?

Why is there so much support for the Lakers and Yankees but none for the Clippers and Mets?

It's not "cynical" or "negative" to think critically.
You could say that about music of the past 30 years as be it British, French, Caribbean, African, Latin all sadly mimic American Rap culture.
 
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You could say that about music of the past 30 years as be it British, French, Caribbean, African, Latin all sadly mimic American Rap culture.
It's an alarming trend, isn't it?

I cannot remember the last time America, Britain and Australia produced a quality music artist.

Britney Spears and Taylor Swift cannot sing for shit, but they made it big because the American music industry pushed their teeny bopper shit down everyone's throat through sexualised music videos.

There's some great independent artists from mainland Europe who produce really beautiful music, but they're not given the time of day in this country. I doubt anyone on this forum has heard of the ones I've listened to. Australia promotes second rate American shit on the radio because it's happy being Yankee sidekicks. I truly worry about the future of this country.
 

Perth Red

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It's an alarming trend, isn't it?

I cannot remember the last time America, Britain and Australia produced a quality music artist.

Britney Spears and Taylor Swift cannot sing for shit, but they made it big because the American music industry pushed their teeny bopper shit down everyone's throat through sexualised music videos.

There's some great independent artists from mainland Europe who produce really beautiful music, but they're not given the time of day in this country. I doubt anyone on this forum has heard of the ones I've listened to. Australia promotes second rate American shit on the radio because it's happy being Yankee sidekicks. I truly worry about the future of this country.
Totally off topic but the reytons are coming on tour end of year, get out the house and go enjoy a bit of northern rock. Very much in the mould of Kaiser chiefs and early arctic monkeys,
 

Dark Corner

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It's an alarming trend, isn't it?

I cannot remember the last time America, Britain and Australia produced a quality music artist.

Britney Spears and Taylor Swift cannot sing for shit, but they made it big because the American music industry pushed their teeny bopper shit down everyone's throat through sexualised music videos.

There's some great independent artists from mainland Europe who produce really beautiful music, but they're not given the time of day in this country. I doubt anyone on this forum has heard of the ones I've listened to. Australia promotes second rate American shit on the radio because it's happy being Yankee sidekicks. I truly worry about the future of this country.
I have given up....I pine for the late 70s/early 80s(even mid 80's) music and youth culture in the UK.
 

The Great Dane

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You don't see Americans trying to make the NFL, NBA and MLB more European or Australian. You don't see the English trying to make the EPL more American or Australian.
Actually you do.

All of the above have spent decades trying to crack international markets to varying success, and all of them have made adjustments to the product and it's presentation to achieve that.

The NFL and EPL are most relevant to your particular example, and both are actively trying to expand their reach in the European and American markets respectively. The FA has successfully increased American investment, and the NFL probably would have already expanded to London if it wasn't for some competition balancing issues (they basically need to jump from 32 to 40 teams in quick succession to maintain an even draw and not screw their conferences up, and they simply aren't ready for that yet).

Google the NFL's global markets program as a single example, which Australia is a part of as well BTW.

BTW, Canadian Football, i.e. the CFL, is a different sport than American Football, i.e. the NFL. So asking why NFL fans don't watch the CFL is a bit like asking why the average rugby fan in Wales has no interest in the NRL.
 
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mongoose

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There's some great independent artists from mainland Europe who produce really beautiful music, but they're not given the time of day in this country. I doubt anyone on this forum has heard of the ones I've listened to. Australia promotes second rate American shit on the radio because it's happy being Yankee sidekicks. I truly worry about the future of this country.
is he like the German equivalent of Kevin Bloody Wilson?
 

Colk

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You don't see Americans trying to make the NFL, NBA and MLB more European or Australian. You don't see the English trying to make the EPL more American or Australian.

I saw a American on YouTube discuss the Las Vegas game. He was disgusted with how much the NRL tried to Americanise the experience. He said the reason he watches NRL is because it's not American. If we want to win over Americans then we need to stop sucking up to Yanks.

How many of our teams follow bullshit American brands?

The Broncos and Cowboys are the worst of the bunch.

Americans laugh when I tell them the name of the Queensland NRL teams. It makes Australians look like wannabe Yankee sidekicks with no culture of our own. If you're happy to be a Yankee sidekick then be one, but don’t denigrate me for being proud of the country I was born in and wanting it to retain its culture.

You never answered my questions.

Would you and other Australians follow gridiron if the game was only played in Albania?

Why don't you follow the CFL?

Why is there so much support for the Lakers and Yankees but none for the Clippers and Mets?

It's not "cynical" or "negative" to think critically.

Wow didn’t this all start because of jerseys and Suncorp Stadium. Btw Suncorp Stadium is decent but America and Europe do have better facilities. That is not me being unpatriotic or whatever that is just stating a truth - they have bigger clubs, they make considerably more money and they have better grounds. Ipso facto mate.

For example what was all that s*** about dumb Americans not knowing Canberra and what relevance does that have about facilities?

Thinking critically is fine but why do you care about what other people like. Everybody is different. For example I like baseball and I don’t mind basketball. I don’t like gridiron or ice hockey. I don’t know what that makes me on your little made up spectrum (that might be a question for you) but I like those sports and I don’t like the others.

On your stupid questions, I don’t follow gridiron so I don’t care but if it were only played in Albania then yes it wouldn’t be as popular. That’s not really a gotcha because that’s to do with population, capital and promotional ability. On the popular sports teams, well that happens here - I have seen a whole lot more Panthers fans in the past three years than previous.
 

Canard

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I guess Soccer and Cricket mustn't be English anymore, if on field results mattered in that respect.

Also f**king LOL at mentioning Britney Spears in 2024 as an example of current popular mainstream music.
 

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