**Spoiler** Roosters v Warriors and chat

[ozbash]

dodge in his update

""Referee being abused as he walks up the tunnel, some disgusting behaviour from certain Warriors fans.""

hayne was lucky to get out in 1 piece,, guy should be hung.

 

[Iafeta]

Iafeta - I disagree personally, and given the decision was a Line Drop out, being off-side and thus a penalty overrides a knock on and it should have been Warriors ball with a penalty.

That's why I was at a loss to see the reasoning behind the decision.

Wing was in front of Roberts when it hit his knee, based on the fact Wing was on the tryline and Roberts was in the field of play. But that's just my view.

No it shouldn't. The first infringement was a knock on, and due to accidental offside no advantage was allowed. Line drop out is correct call.

Roberts was a third of a metre in front.

 

[OVP]

Game Over.

Once again the Warriors have been beaten by poor ref decisions.
Hang in there team.

You're an idiot. How many "crowd" penalties did the Warriors get today ? The ref was shocking agreed, but they got most of the calls.

Was a good armwrestle though, how good was Morley's hit on Guttenbiel ? Hit of the year so far.

 

[Iafeta]

You're an idiot. How many "crowd" penalties did the Warriors get today ? The ref was shocking agreed, but they got most of the calls.

Was a good armwrestle though, how good was Morley's hit on Guttenbiel ? Hit of the year so far.

Why shouldn't they?

How slow was the play of the ball when the Warriors were in possession? There were second and third and fourth pushes in the ruck.

Billy Harrigan would have had a field day, you'd have been down to 2 blokes.

 

[AuckMel]

The penalty count should have been 20-2, not 8-2.

But fairs fair. The Warriors made far too many mistakes even allowing for the joke decision which got the Roosters home.

 

[Tommy Smith]

I don't care if Vid refs can't rule on forward passes, fact is it went a mile forward. It should have been called forward by the incompetent touch judges. As should have the other 4 or 5 forward passes.

The Roberts off-side call was line ball. Should have been benefit just like the Anasta one should have against us, especially when the camera didn't show enough evidence to suggest otherwise. And prodigous, it had to be a line-drop out because there was no advantage. Simple as that.

And Webb DID get his hand to it. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The only doubt is whether he played at the ball. It was 50/50...and you win some, you lose some.

 

[Prodigiousman]

Accidental offside????

The guy scored a try from an off-side position according to the ruling - if that is not an intentional act to make a play from an off-side position then I'm not here.

The decision kept the Warriors in the match - I picked them (and am 1/5 as a result!) so the no-try decision was good for me in that aspect, but if scoring a try from an off-side position is not intentional then we might need to clarify 'accidental' in the rugby league dictionary.

I have no beef with you champ btw, just trying to sort through the facts.

 

[Kingbunny]

You're an idiot. How many "crowd" penalties did the Warriors get today ? The ref was shocking agreed, but they got most of the calls.

Was a good armwrestle though, how good was Morley's hit on Guttenbiel ? Hit of the year so far.

Slightly over the top, calling people idiots when you don't know them.
Perhaps you should learn self-control and leave Ricky's school of behavior!

 

[OVP]

Why shouldn't they?

How slow was the play of the ball when the Warriors were in possession? There were second and third and fourth pushes in the ruck.

Billy Harrigan would have had a field day, you'd have been down to 2 blokes.

So you are saying you deserved to win but got rorted by the ref even tho you had most of the possession due to an 8-2 penalty count huh ? Rubbish.

 

[Iafeta]

Accidental offside????

The guy scored a try from an off-side position according to the ruling - if that is not an intentional act to make a play from an off-side position then I'm not here.

The decision kept the Warriors in the match - I picked them (and am 1/5 as a result!) so the no-try decision was good for me in that aspect, but if scoring a try from an off-side position is not intentional then we might need to clarify 'accidental' in the rugby league dictionary.

I have no beef with you champ btw, just trying to sort through the facts.

Its accidental because Amos was already standing there and the ball went straight to him. He didn't really move into into an offside position as such, he accidentally was already there and the play that got the ball there was not a deliberate play at the ball either.

It'd be offside offside if he was chasing through on a kick from an offside position.

 

[AuckMel]

Accidental offside????

The guy scored a try from an off-side position according to the ruling - if that is not an intentional act to make a play from an off-side position then I'm not here.

The decision kept the Warriors in the match - I picked them (and am 1/5 as a result!) so the no-try decision was good for me in that aspect, but if scoring a try from an off-side position is not intentional then we might need to clarify 'accidental' in the rugby league dictionary.

I have no beef with you champ btw, just trying to sort through the facts.

You have to go with the first offence, which of course was the knock on in goal.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Well the penalty count was, having just checked, 7-3. And was 6 nil at one stage in the first half so the Warriors should have taken advantage of it...but didn't.

 

[Iafeta]

So you are saying you deserved to win but got rorted by the ref even tho you had most of the possession due to an 8-2 penalty count huh ? Rubbish.

Quite contrare. The Warriors have massive problems in play making and taking advantage of good situations. Thats whats cost them three weeks running. Whether the count is 1-15, or 2-12, they won't win with Stacey not creating options and not having set plays. Its still too adlib.

BUT, the refereeing was absolutely hoarse, he was dreadful in controlling the ruck, I haven't seen the ruck being that slow all season, AND one try to the Chooks was off a poor call and a disallowed try showed no knock on on various replays. 8 point swing there.

I very rarely blow up at refs, preferring to focus on my own team's inabilities because generally refereeing is one of those circumstancial factors you can't control, but your own play you can control, but I can guarantee Hayne won't be refereeing first grade next weekend.

 

[Iafeta]

Well the penalty count was, having just checked, 7-3. And was 6 nil at one stage in the first half so the Warriors should have taken advantage of it...but didn't.

No they didn't.

But I've seen games in 2003 where the Warriors tried the same tactics in the ruck, notably away to Souths and in 2002 away to Canberra, the penalty counts i those games were 14-4 and 15-3.

 

[Skinner]

and the ball actually did come off webb's arm in the lead up to the soliola try

Absolutely spot on, it clearly bounced off Webby's arm and everyone is
blowing up at Hayne, he got it right ffs.

Skinner

 

[Prodigiousman]

I'll have to agree to disagree with you there. If I'm standing in front of my player who just happens to have a pass go off his knee and go to me and there's a gaping hole in the defensive line for me to run through which I do - I haven't run into an off-side position to take any advantage-I've merely made a deliberate movement to advance the ball after receiving it. Now if it happens in the middle of the field you'd be penalised because you are taking advantage of being offside, how that is any different to planting the ball over the line (thus advancing it upfield) is beyond me. There was an incident in the 92 Ashes Test in Australia where the ball accidently hit David Gillespie's knee went forward to Allan Langer who had passed the ball but had it knocked down by a Lions player into Gillespie's knee. Langer was penalised for being off-side even though all that happened was he fell on the ball as he was tackled in reaction to the pass he'd just thrown. Now he gained no advantage by falling on the ball yet was penalised. (I watched the 92 game for work btw). Now in that instance Langer achieved no advantage and he was tackled into a ball that was accidently kneed by Gillespie - yet was penalised. Some refs dont penalise I realise that but the 'advantage' aspect is quite debateable in this instance. Esp when you take the Langer-Gillespie example where accidental offside was clear but they were penalised regardless. Just my observation. Off to watch Tigers-Knights, have a good one.

PS. Having said all that I don't believe Roberts was offside but will catch another replay of it to be 100% certain in the near future.

 

[Iafeta]

Absolutely spot on, it clearly bounced off Webby's arm and everyone is
blowing up at Hayne, he got it right ffs.

Skinner

This sounds like a case for Dr Nick.

The ball is connected to.. Amos Robert's left knee.

Amos Robert's knee is connected to... Brent Webb's imaginary, right hand.

 

[The Business]

I can't see how the referee cost the Warriors the game. They received 6 piggy back penalties and didn't capitalise. The good teams take advantage of piggy backs. The Warriors showed that they don't fall into that category.

It was good to see a low scoring tussle. A good game doesn't need to have 70 points scored in it.

 

[Carlito]

hey, what happened to soward, i thought he did pretty well last week, why did sticky drop him

 

[JoeD]

how good was Morley's hit on Guttenbiel ? Hit of the year so far.

I was at the game and it looked to me like Morley lined him up with his shoulder and hit him square in the head. Much the same situation as Latu just got 3 weeks for. Can anyone watching on TV confirm or deny?