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Squad succession

Chipmunk

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Pou has put Dunster in as 2025 based on rumour. Someone said after the pub thing he is around for 25 but we don't know on what terms. He might have train n trial (second tier) which would mean we have 7 spots open.
MO appear to be subjective.

The Club in it's right mind surely wouldn't even offer Dunster a ball boy gig if it was solely up to them if he stays or goes.
 

Gronk

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Interesting. So why did you and NRL have him down as MO ?

Also if the article was Fri 17 Dec 2021, 03:01 PM, and he extended for 3 years, what was contract his status at the time of print ? Cos if he was off contract, then 3 years was for 22, 23 and 24 (and maybe a MO for 25 ?)

Yes, maybe if he was already under contract for 22, then an extension for 3 years would be for 23,24, 25. But that doesn't explain the MO.

Clear as mud.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Extended the youts:

* = player option
¢ = club option
" = mutual option
^ = development contract

2024
Utility: Asi (24), Brown, Gutherson, Talagi (19)
Fullback: -
W/C: Cini (24), Dunster, Harper (26), Wenisini, Russell, Simonsson, Sivo
Half: Moses, Sanders (20)^
Hooker: Hands, Lussick
Edge forward: Brazel (21)^, Cartwright, Doorey, Lane, Mataele, Matterson, Tuilagi
Middle: Campbell-Gillard (31), Greig, Hopgood, Makatoa (31), Moretti^, Ofahengaue, Ogden (28), Paulo, Taumoepenu (23), Tuivati^

2025
Utility: Brown, Gutherson (31)
Fullback: Iongi
W/C: Dunster (26)", Lomax, Renisini^, Wenisini, Russell (23), Simonsson, Sivo
Half: Moses
Hooker: Hands (26), Lussick (30)
Edge forward: Cartwright (31), Doorey (25), Guymer^, Lane, Mataele (23), Matterson, Tuilagi (26)
Middle: Greig (26), Hopgood, Moretti (25), Ofahengaue (30), Paulo, Pryke^, Tuivati (20)

2026
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: Iongi
W/C: Lomax, Renisini (21), Wenisini (24)*, Simonsson, Sivo (33)"
Half: Moses
Hooker: -
Edge forward: Guymer (22), Lane (32)", Matterson (32)*
Middle: Hopgood, Paulo (33), Pryke (22)^

2027
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: Iongi (24)
W/C: Lomax, Simonsson (29)
Half: Moses*
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: Hopgood (28)

2028
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: Lomax (29)
Half: Moses (34)*
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2029
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2030
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2031
Utility: Brown (31)*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

So we (officially) have 28 merkins in this year's top 30, and 24 in the 2025 squad.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Interesting. So why did you and NRL have him down as MO ?

Also if the article was Fri 17 Dec 2021, 03:01 PM, and he extended for 3 years, what was contract his status at the time of print ? Cos if he was off contract, then 3 years was for 22, 23 and 24 (and maybe a MO for 25 ?)

Yes, maybe if he was already under contract for 22, then an extension for 3 years would be for 23,24, 25. But that doesn't explain the MO.

Clear as mud.
I don't think they always include options in the press releases. I reckon they aren't always included in the signings tracker on nrl.com either.
 

84 Baby

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All still outside the Top 30 for 2025. That still leaves 6 spots to fill.
Not until March/June (although obviously waiting that long means they don’t have preseason).
Any signing between now and then is either going to be an opportunistic pick up of a decent player being cut (less likely) or cheap pick ups of depth we need (Hawkins supposedly done deal - we need a back up half). Barring those we’ll probably push any other signing back to pressure that player into a cheaper deal.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Hawko:

* = player option
¢ = club option
" = mutual option
^ = development contract

2024
Utility: Asi (24), Brown, Gutherson, Talagi (19)
Fullback: -
W/C: Cini (24), Dunster, Harper (26), Wenisini, Russell, Simonsson, Sivo
Half: Moses, Sanders (20)^
Hooker: Hands, Lussick
Edge forward: Brazel (21)^, Cartwright, Doorey, Lane, Mataele, Matterson, Tuilagi
Middle: Campbell-Gillard (31), Greig, Hopgood, Makatoa (31), Moretti^, Ofahengaue, Ogden (28), Paulo, Taumoepenu (23), Tuivati^

2025
Utility: Brown, Gutherson (31)
Fullback: Iongi
W/C: Dunster (26)", Lomax, Renisini^, Wenisini, Russell (23), Simonsson, Sivo
Half: Hawkins, Moses
Hooker: Hands (26), Lussick (30)
Edge forward: Cartwright (31), Doorey (25), Guymer^, Lane, Mataele (23), Matterson, Tuilagi (26)
Middle: Greig (26), Hopgood, Moretti (25), Ofahengaue (30), Paulo, Pryke^, Tuivati (20)

2026
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: Iongi
W/C: Lomax, Renisini (21), Wenisini (24)*, Simonsson, Sivo (33)"
Half: Hawkins (27), Moses
Hooker: -
Edge forward: Guymer (22), Lane (32)", Matterson (32)*
Middle: Hopgood, Paulo (33), Pryke (22)^

2027
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: Iongi (24)
W/C: Lomax, Simonsson (29)
Half: Moses*
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: Hopgood (28)

2028
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: Lomax (29)
Half: Moses (34)*
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2029
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2030
Utility: Brown*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

2031
Utility: Brown (31)*
Fullback: -
W/C: -
Half: -
Hooker: -
Edge forward: -
Middle: -

So we (officially) have 28 merkins in this year's top 30, and 25 in the 2025 squad.
 

Chipmunk

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Not until March/June (although obviously waiting that long means they don’t have preseason).
Any signing between now and then is either going to be an opportunistic pick up of a decent player being cut (less likely) or cheap pick ups of depth we need (Hawkins supposedly done deal - we need a back up half). Barring those we’ll probably push any other signing back to pressure that player into a cheaper deal.
You'd also think we'll try and make a few purchases for 2026 after 1 November, and keep room for them in case they can be accommodated in 2025 also.
 

Chipmunk

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If I'm not mistaken Hawkins is a right foot/side player?

Losing Moses was one thing, but having to shift Brown to the right to accommodate the left foot/sided Asi and Sanders in the team just exacerbated the situation.
 

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