Squad succession

[Gazzamatta]

Cartwright might be the most talented pure football player in the 30

He's had periods of absolute brilliance combined with responsible, tough footy. I'm a fan. He and Tuilagi should be our starting edges for game 1.
I kinda think Ryles will shift Lane back to an edge though.

 

[the phantom menace]

Cartwright's playing for a 2026 contract isn't he? Even if that ends up elsewhere at his age, then he still should have a good season. I can't see him not being in the 17, and starting edge is fine enough.

I do see Lane in the middle rotation this season, and hope Ryles sees that as well. With the ability to fill in on an edge for 20mins as needed - kind of like Matterson.

 

[Gherkin]

Cartwright started the year off in great form. Seemed to play more physical and was better in defence. Got injured, possibly played injured on his return, lost Moses on his edge and the whole team in general played shit. He’ll be a lot better next year.
An edge of him, Moses and Lomax is pretty dangerous and should do well enough defensively

 

[Lemon Squash]

I can legit see Carty and Lomax getting into some sort of flick pass contest. Should be entertaining at least.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why is that a good thing?

He is inconsistent, and at 31 will probably be on the slide.

 

[Happy MEel]

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[T.S Quint]

Cartwright can be very dangerous in attack, but he is a shit defender and often makes poor decisions and mistakes with the ball.

We need blokes who we can rely on every week, not guys who have a brilliant game one week and then have two shit ones after.

Lane is the same.

 

[T.S Quint]

He's had periods of absolute brilliance combined with responsible, tough footy. I'm a fan. He and Tuilagi should be our starting edges for game 1.
I kinda think Ryles will shift Lane back to an edge though.

Carty, Tuilagi and Lane would have to be three of the worst defensive forwards in the game.

Tuilagi's attack can make up for it somewhat. Carty's does occasionally. Lane's attack hasn't been seen in two years.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I would throw obscene money at Ivan Cleary as coach.

Merkin you've got no idea

 

[hineyrulz]

Everyone knows Cleary’s not a good coach and just lucky. If Bald Arthur was as lucky as Cleary he would of won 4 comps in a row and not be coaching in Leeds.

 

[JokerEel]

Everyone knows Cleary’s not a good coach and just lucky. If Bald Arthur was as lucky as Cleary he would of won 4 comps in a row and not be coaching in Leeds.

The funny thing about how Penrith have worked if Cleary decided to leave they would promote a coach currently in the system.

But even if they recruited a coach externally there wouldn't be a complete rebuild of the entire football program..

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Cleary made the finals once in his first five years at Penrith, and won his first premiership in his 15th year of coaching. I wonder how he would've gone at Parra these past 11 years.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I reckon Ivan would have guided us to a premiership if he got 11 years here.

He never has done 11 years straight at one joint in one stint.

6 at the Warriors
4 at Penrith
1.75 at Tigers
6 at Penrith.

Cleary was never sacked at the warriors he built them up to a GF then selflessly left to do a rebuild at Penrith under Gus with a $$$ offer.

Gus sacking him at end of 2016 only delayed the dynasty they pissed around with Griffin for 3 years.

Tigers were a dump but Cleary got them there best winning season in his only full season there and there 2nd best defensive season in the clubs history and walked out.

 

[JokerEel]

Cleary made the finals once in his first five years at Penrith, and won his first premiership in his 15th year of coaching. I wonder how he would've gone at Parra these past 11 years.

Would have been interesting how Nathan would have turned out if Ivan was still at the Warriors!

If we had Ivan Nathan would have played his juniors at the Rhinos and played halfback for us winning at least one competition!

 

[the phantom menace]

Cleary made the finals once in his first five years at Penrith, and won his first premiership in his 15th year of coaching.

Well done stats boy. Lacking any context again though.

I wonder how he would've gone at Parra these past 11 years.

Of course you wonder... because you're not smart enough to work it out

 

[the phantom menace]

Merkin you've got no idea

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I reckon Ivan would have guided us to a premiership if he got 11 years here.

He never has done 11 years straight at one joint in one stint.

Neither has Bennett since he left Brisbane in 2008. Why would he keep changing clubs if staying at one club forever increased his chance of winning there?

The fact is nobody builds forever to an inevitable premiership at a club, because there's no advantage from it. Each year a club has a chance of winning the comp that ranges from 0% to something higher than zero. That chance doesn't increase forever. It peaks at a value determined by the club's resourcing, which includes coaching resources. Extra years doesn't keep increasing a coach's chance of winning in a given year, so claiming 11 years at a club would've guaranteed Cleary (or anyone else) a premiership at the Eels is as unfounded as claiming anyone would have guaranteed us a premiership in the 11 years before that, or all the years before that going back to 1986.

 

[the phantom menace]

And none of what you've posted is remotely what anyone else is talking about.

The convo is about supporting the club, and supporting any coach that looks like they have a realistic and contextual chance of breaking our premiership drought. You're about six years behind everyone else here on that front, as is usual with #poulogic.