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Stewart salute reveals double standards

dragonfire

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1. Bird lied to the police, Stewart did not.

2. Bird refused to talk to his club, Stewart did not (this is a sackable offence in itself in my opinion)

3. Bird tried to pin it on his mate, Stewart did not.

4. The Sharks chose to stand Bird down (presumably because he refused to talk to them about his side of the story), The Sea Eagles chose to stand by their player.

who cares what the club thinks, this is where the NRL needs to take action and suspend said player. as already mentioned it seems like the nrl doesnt have the balls to do anything and this may come back to bite them in the arse
 

Dutchy

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i totally agree with the article, its digusting to see Stewart getting all this praise yet the guy has shown he is a complete grub. you dont get charged with sexual assault for no reason, the nrl will look like complete fks if he gets proven guilty and they are all about women in league. right.

That is yet to be decided.

Laffranchi and Crockett did.
 

Charlie124

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My point was that it cant be "double standards" if youre not comparing two identical cases, which these clearly arent as i pointed out with these (among others) points of difference. Compare apples with apples and THEN have a whinge about double standards if they are treated differently.

If Brett Stewart had have lied to the police and his club and tried to pin it on someone else then perhaps his club wouldnt have stood by him either and he would be playing in france
 

Pete Cash

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I think that Manly should be punished if he is found guilty because they are potentially damaging the image of the game by playing him. Perhaps a fine against them if he is convicted of either charge with most of it going to a charity that supports victims of sexual assault.

Also there are plenty of jobs out there where a person would be suspended (or fired) if they were charged with sexual assault. I would certainly be suspended until after the court case if I ever was charged with such a crime.
 

Kiki

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i don't really understand this considering the Sharks chose to stand down Bird, whereas Manly took a different path.

methinks he's having a whinge because his team is sucking royally. suck it up Sticky.
 

MsStorm

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These situations over the last few months quite clearly demonstrate a problem with leaving disciplinary matters to clubs. We see Cronulla and Canberra take harsher action, whilst clubs like the Roosters and Manly take the soft line. We need to have a governing body make decisions on these issues and not leave them to the clubs.

If I were to create a standard - indefinately suspend without pay any player involved in any criminal charge until the matter is resolved. If found guilty, an immediate termination of contract should occur, and if found innocent payments made for the lost time and return to the game.

It may seem harsh, but it needs to be done. These thick footballers, and many here are so far from the societal values it is absolutely scary. Especially when the same posters here will not wait for a guilty verdict of a suspected murderer, fraudster, paedophile, other rapist, before they label them as so. The game needs to fix up its image now, or face issues when other codes clean themselves up before we do.

:clap::clap:
Best way to solve the problems we are having now.
 

Tommax25

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:lol::lol: hit a nerve did he, you know it cause its true, manly are a joke and so to is the NRL

what sticky is saying is the truth that the NRL wont admit to, its gone beyond a joke, either stewart shouldnt be playing or greg bird should still be with us..

You do have a point mate, the nrl ripping up birds contract was a sh*t decision for you blokes...hang on a second. Didnt the sharks sack him themselves? What are you complaining about manly/the nrl for?
 

Tommax25

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i'm a manly fan, and brett has been my favorite player for a few seasons, and yes, Ricky does make some valid points. If brett is found guilty, he HAS to go (upsetting as it will be for manly fans). Yes, he did get a standing ovation at brookie, in our eyes (biased as they are) he is innocent util proven guilty... but hey, would sharks fans have booed bird if he was able to play??... and the double standard? what about the 2 players who were also chaged with sexual assault last year (or the year before) and were aloud to play?? while brett was stood down (and everyone knows he was stood down for the sexual assault claim, as much as they claim it was for being on the piss)

on the flipside, brett will get booed and sledged at EVERY away game... just like last night...

In everyones eyes he should be seen as innocent until proven guilty. But thats not the case unfortuantly.
 

Tommax25

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I think that Manly should be punished if he is found guilty because they are potentially damaging the image of the game by playing him. Perhaps a fine against them if he is convicted of either charge with most of it going to a charity that supports victims of sexual assault.

Also there are plenty of jobs out there where a person would be suspended (or fired) if they were charged with sexual assault. I would certainly be suspended until after the court case if I ever was charged with such a crime.


Ummm no :roll:. If the nrl wanted to do that then they would have stood him down until after his court case and not for 4 games and then punish manly for paying an eligible player :lol:
 

GB!

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You do have a point mate, the nrl ripping up birds contract was a sh*t decision for you blokes...hang on a second. Didnt the sharks sack him themselves? What are you complaining about manly/the nrl for?

vossy is a deadset tool. lol sharks. suck it up. 43 years won f**k all!
 

Rockin Ronny

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A joke because they are standing by their player? A player who didn't lie to his club, didn't try to pin it on his mate and a player who didn't lie to the police.

And it was Sharks who stood Bird down, for lying. The situations are totally different.

The idiot Snak writes himself off, even though he's diabetic, then physically attacks and sexually assaults a teenager - allegedly - then says he was so drunk he can't remember anything.

Massive difference.

You idiot.
 

Pete Cash

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Ummm no :roll:. If the nrl wanted to do that then they would have stood him down until after his court case and not for 4 games and then punish manly for paying an eligible player :lol:

Manly don't have to play someone who is accused of sexual assault. They are choosing to put the image of the game at risk and in my opinion should be punished if he is found guilty.

Nobody makes Manly select Stewart every week. They are doing it to win football games. I can't blame them, but I certainly do worry about the potential fallout a guilty verdict will have on the game.

Manly and Stewart will share responsibility for the damage to the games image if he is found guilty. Manly DO NOT have to play him.
 

Pass the Ball

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Let's look at this article for what it really is....

It is Ricky Stuat putting his hand up and saying he and the club completely and utterly stuffed up with the Bird case, and now he feels like a total d!ckhead...

Cronulla are the only club to be accused of double standards...Every other club has stood by their players...Cronulla are the odd ones out here....
 

redvscotty

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1. Bird lied to the police, Stewart did not.

2. Bird refused to talk to his club, Stewart did not (this is a sackable offence in itself in my opinion)

3. Bird tried to pin it on his mate, Stewart did not.

4. The Sharks chose to stand Bird down (presumably because he refused to talk to them about his side of the story), The Sea Eagles chose to stand by their player.

Didn't he originally come out and say he was too drunk to remember?
 

Frailty

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Let's look at this article for what it really is....

It is Ricky Stuat putting his hand up and saying he and the club completely and utterly stuffed up with the Bird case, and now he feels like a total d!ckhead...

Cronulla are the only club to be accused of double standards...Every other club has stood by their players...Cronulla are the odd ones out here....

:? Explain?

Latu - Assaulted a female at a Petrol Station, contract terminated.
Bird - Allegedly assaulted girlfriend, indefinately suspended, and then released. NRL acted so Bird could not be registered in the NRL.
Seymour - Publicly intoxicated, stood down by club.

Hardly double standards from the sharks?
 

Hanscholo

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Bird refused to talk to the club and tried to get a mate to admit to it. Innocent or Guilty, at what point do you say, this guy's actions suggest that he isnt someone we want around anymore? Now I dont think the same thing could be said for Brett Stewart.

In saying that I dont think anyone charged with a serious offence should be playing until after it goes to trial if proven innocent. Thats just my personal opinion. Innocent until proven guitly is fine, thats not to say that people dont get tossed into Jail for months or years on end before trials take place, where is the presumption of innocence then? In reality Innocence being pressumed relates to the burden of proof on the prosecution, it has nothing to do with taking action against somebody that has been charged and nor should it. Your employers have every right to sack you if your charged with an offence, and so they should do.
 

BWNB

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If Brett Stewart had have lied to the police and his club and tried to pin it on someone else then perhaps his club wouldnt have stood by him either and he would be playing in france

He would still be playing for Manly if he did that.

Would the NRL have let Bird play if the Sharks didn't act?
 

ak47

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piss off ricky stuart - this guy is a living breathing double standard
pressed for todd carney to be dropped
pressed for bird to play
sticky has black n blue goggles on
i dont like the support brett stewart is getting, but he is innocent until proven guilty, and bird was already guilty of lying to the club, and the cops.
there are double standards in the game, we all know it - but i dont want to hear it from the double standard king himself, cronic sore loser whinger
 

Downie

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Yes, he couldn't even recall what he did, Meaning he cannot defend himself against the allegations.

Brett Stewart hasn't come out and said anything about what happened, it's all hearsay at the moment.
 

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