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Subtle plot holes only you noticed.

Danish

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In Grease the big race down Thunder Road was for "pinks" aka ownership papers. But the scarfaced loser of that race rocks up to the Rydell High Dance in the car, obviously still the owner.


Thunder road is after the dance. It's the final scene before their graduation carnival thing
 

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Plot hole that pisses me off in Empire Strikes Back, although I'm sure it's obvious and has been discussed to death.

Luke flies to meet up with Yoda to start his training while Leia and Han are going to fly to sky city. Luke somehow manages to spend what is seemingly weeks with Yoda despite Han and Leia flying directly into an ambush and him leaving to go save them
 

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Plot hole that pisses me off in Empire Strikes Back, although I'm sure it's obvious and has been discussed to death.

Luke flies to meet up with Yoda to start his training while Leia and Han are going to fly to sky city. Luke somehow manages to spend what is seemingly weeks with Yoda despite Han and Leia flying directly into an ambush and him leaving to go save them

Let's just say there was some time dilation involved and leave this one be.

I'm pretty sure that Littlefinger found a way to teleport recently in Game of Thrones, too.
 

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The 'why didn't they get the Eagles to come' isn't a plot hole

Sauron would know they are coming. So what he would do is get his wraith wing dragon dudes to attack them. And have a massive army waiting for them on Mt Doom. And when they rings slips out after their done mutilating & sodomizing Frodo's corpse, that'd grab it. And Sauron would have the ring, & destroy all the world.

Sooooo no, it isn't a plot hole.

The real plot hole is Sauron not thinking to at least put a couple of guards where the only place the ring can be destroyed.
 

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The 'why didn't they get the Eagles to come' isn't a plot hole

Sauron would know they are coming. So what he would do is get his wraith wing dragon dudes to attack them. And have a massive army waiting for them on Mt Doom. And when they rings slips out after their done mutilating & sodomizing Frodo's corpse, that'd grab it. And Sauron would have the ring, & destroy all the world.

Sooooo no, it isn't a plot hole.

The real plot hole is Sauron not thinking to at least put a couple of guards where the only place the ring can be destroyed.

So why didn't Frodo and Sam find a massive army guarding the entrance to Mount Doom from potential eagle incursions? It was unguarded, Sauron didn't even seem worried about them getting there.

And there were only nine ringwraiths (eight by that time as the leader had been killed) so you'd think that unless Eagles were extremely rare, they'd be able to outnumber or outflank them.

At the council of Elrond they don't even discuss eagles, surely they'd at least have been useful to transport the fellowship to the borders of mordor, or over the mountains?
 
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I think you guys are confusing just dumb decisions with plot holes.

A plot hole is something that physically could not occur under the laws of the universe the movie has created. Take the original Jurassic park. The T Rex breaksthrough the fence to attack the jeeps, then pushes one of those keeps back over the fence where suddenly there is a sheer drop. Given the T Rex was standing on that spot eating a goat just minutes earlier, that is a plot hole.

Bad guys doing dumb things so the good guys can win is more of a trope than a plot hole. Another good trope is a good guy forgetting about some super weapon until the final battle, or choosing not to use some item/magic/power from a previous scene or movie to solve a problem down the line (this is a huge issue in Harry Potter with the amount of times a spell or item from a previous book would have been very handy in a later book but is never mentioned).
 

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a great white shark that can roar beating a jet plan to the bahamas, or actually pretty much the entire jaws 4 movie
 

God-King Dean

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So why didn't Frodo and Sam find a massive army guarding the entrance to Mount Doom from potential eagle incursions? It was unguarded, Sauron didn't even seem worried about them getting there.

Didn't seem worried about it because he didn't know they were coming. Wouldn't even have entered his mind that they'd send a couple of hobbits (hence why they did). I also don't think Sauron would have even entertained the thought of them trying to destroy the ring. All free folk would be just gearing up for war.

And there were only nine ringwraiths (eight by that time as the leader had been killed) so you'd think that unless Eagles were extremely rare, they'd be able to outnumber or outflank them.

At the council of Elrond they don't even discuss eagles, surely they'd at least have been useful to transport the fellowship to the borders of mordor, or over the mountains?

Maybe they would have more eagles than dragon wraith thingies.... but are you going to risk the fate of the world on an aerial battle?
 

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Didn't seem worried about it because he didn't know they were coming. Wouldn't even have entered his mind that they'd send a couple of hobbits (hence why they did). I also don't think Sauron would have even entertained the thought of them trying to destroy the ring. All free folk would be just gearing up for war.



Maybe they would have more eagles than dragon wraith thingies.... but are you going to risk the fate of the world on an aerial battle?

An aerial battle seems a safer bet than sneaking the ring into mordor in the hands of a couple of midgets from a peaceful little rural backwater to me!
 

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At least the movies didn't have that selfish f*ck Tom Bombadil. The ring has no power over him but just can't be arsed going to Mordor....
 

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So why didn't Frodo and Sam find a massive army guarding the entrance to Mount Doom from potential eagle incursions? It was unguarded, Sauron didn't even seem worried about them getting there.

And there were only nine ringwraiths (eight by that time as the leader had been killed) so you'd think that unless Eagles were extremely rare, they'd be able to outnumber or outflank them.

At the council of Elrond they don't even discuss eagles, surely they'd at least have been useful to transport the fellowship to the borders of mordor, or over the mountains?

The entire point of the army at the gates was to distract his gaze from Mt Doom, so there's that.

But yeah the rest of the Why Not Eagles explanation doesn't really fly. Lazy merkins. For all his greatness Tolkien has some rather large flaws as a writer.


I think you guys are confusing just dumb decisions with plot holes.

A plot hole is something that physically could not occur under the laws of the universe the movie has created. Take the original Jurassic park. The T Rex breaksthrough the fence to attack the jeeps, then pushes one of those keeps back over the fence where suddenly there is a sheer drop. Given the T Rex was standing on that spot eating a goat just minutes earlier, that is a plot hole.

Bad guys doing dumb things so the good guys can win is more of a trope than a plot hole. Another good trope is a good guy forgetting about some super weapon until the final battle, or choosing not to use some item/magic/power from a previous scene or movie to solve a problem down the line (this is a huge issue in Harry Potter with the amount of times a spell or item from a previous book would have been very handy in a later book but is never mentioned).

I disagree with this. I would say your Jurassic Park example is poor, lazy or inconsistent choreography/filming.

A plot hole is a hole in the actual plot - like characters making inexplicably dumb decisions or conveniently forgetting the existence of an entire race or magic power that would be super useful, just to set up the complicated series of events supporting the plot.

My example is Harry Potter 4. The whole story centres around a complicated plot to nudge Harry into winning a tournament he's way too young for, with countless points of potential failure, for him to find a teleporting device right at the end and disappear into Voldemort's hands.
Why didn't Moody just give him the portkey at one of the countless other times they were alone together?
 

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A plot hole is a hole in the actual plot - like characters making inexplicably dumb decisions or conveniently forgetting the existence of an entire race or magic power that would be super useful, just to set up the complicated series of events supporting the plot.


Daenerys Targaryen is a plothole
 
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