Superthread LXXI - Honouring Phil Hughes. 63*

[Eelementary]

Having a Bookface argument with another Dragons fan who says he would sign Todd Carney instead of The Dugan...

One is a poor man's Reece Robinson, and the other a destitute man's Corey Norman. Lose-lose whichever way you go.

 

[Eelementary]

Tell me again how a gunshot wound to the leg is non-fatal...

 

[Bulldog Force]

Tell me again how a gunshot wound to the leg is non-fatal...

Ok.

1. Trauma: When a bullet goes through you, the bullet is going to tear a hole. Depending on the type of bullet and what it hits, the bullet may fragment and besides the main wound channel, there may be a large number of secondary wound channels. If these wound channels go through major organs such as the brain, nervous system, lungs, etc, the trauma can cause death outright.

2. Blood loss: A common cause of death from gunshot wounds is blood loss. The bullet passes through an artery, you will bleed out. If a bullet or fragment punctures organs such as the liver, the injury itself may not be life threatening, but the massive blood loss as the result of the injury can be life threatening.

3. Primary and secondary infections: If you were to get a flesh wound through your arm that normally wouldn't be life threatening and pack the hole with dog feces, without proper treatment, the wound could be deadly as the result of infection. Bullets allow a way for bacteria and microbes to cause infections. Infections can kill you.

4. Hydro-static Shock: The concept of hydro-static shock can be debated, but I believe it is generally accepted as fact. Basically, this is energy transfer. Think of walking up to the kids' swimming pool and hitting the surface hard with your hand, you cause waves. The energy from your hand is transferred to the water and causes motion in the water. A bullet will do the same thing in your body (which is mainly water). The energy is believed to be transferred into the surrounding tissue in a ripple effect that dissipates the farther away it gets from the point of impact. These waves are believed to cause disruption in the central nervous system and can cause trauma at points close to the bullet without the bullet actually touching the area.

So if someone were to walk up to you and put a bullet in your thigh, would it be fatal? With basic first aid and the common availability of medical care and antibiotics, probably not. The bullet could hit an artery and you could bleed to death. You might get an infection that takes over your body. You won't die from direct damage from the bullet or hydro-static shock, but it could be fatal all the same.

The probability of dying from a gun shot to the leg is much, much less than say dying from a gunshot wound through the heart.

 

[Didgi]

I liked the bit where you stopped talking.

 

[ek999]

Having a Bookface argument with another Dragons fan who says he would sign Todd Carney instead of The Dugan...

Blasphemy

 

[Eelementary]

Ok.

1. Trauma: When a bullet goes through you, the bullet is going to tear a hole. Depending on the type of bullet and what it hits, the bullet may fragment and besides the main wound channel, there may be a large number of secondary wound channels. If these wound channels go through major organs such as the brain, nervous system, lungs, etc, the trauma can cause death outright.

2. Blood loss: A common cause of death from gunshot wounds is blood loss. The bullet passes through an artery, you will bleed out. If a bullet or fragment punctures organs such as the liver, the injury itself may not be life threatening, but the massive blood loss as the result of the injury can be life threatening.

3. Primary and secondary infections: If you were to get a flesh wound through your arm that normally wouldn't be life threatening and pack the hole with dog feces, without proper treatment, the wound could be deadly as the result of infection. Bullets allow a way for bacteria and microbes to cause infections. Infections can kill you.

4. Hydro-static Shock: The concept of hydro-static shock can be debated, but I believe it is generally accepted as fact. Basically, this is energy transfer. Think of walking up to the kids' swimming pool and hitting the surface hard with your hand, you cause waves. The energy from your hand is transferred to the water and causes motion in the water. A bullet will do the same thing in your body (which is mainly water). The energy is believed to be transferred into the surrounding tissue in a ripple effect that dissipates the farther away it gets from the point of impact. These waves are believed to cause disruption in the central nervous system and can cause trauma at points close to the bullet without the bullet actually touching the area.

So if someone were to walk up to you and put a bullet in your thigh, would it be fatal? With basic first aid and the common availability of medical care and antibiotics, probably not. The bullet could hit an artery and you could bleed to death. You might get an infection that takes over your body. You won't die from direct damage from the bullet or hydro-static shock, but it could be fatal all the same.

The probability of dying from a gun shot to the leg is much, much less than say dying from a gunshot wound through the heart.

Mate, I'm not sure what you think you proved, but those statements verify the validity that getting shot in the leg is likely to end in death.

 

[Twizzle]

Tgif.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Mate, I'm not sure what you think you proved, but those statements verify the validity that getting shot in the leg is likely to end in death.

IF a major artery is impaled... IF.

However, the odds of dying are far greater if you're shot in the upper body where all your major organs are - liver, heart, lungs etc...

Now, accept it or dismiss it, you're right or I'm wrong as far as you're concerned, I don't care, I'm not arguing this case anymore. I've had my say.

Now in other news...

LACK OF SNOW ON HOUSE LEADS TO DRUG BUST IN THE NETHERLANDS

http://7online.com/news/whats-missing-from-this-house-led-to-a-drug-bust/514461/

:lol:

 

[Bulldog Force]

I liked the bit where you stopped talking.

 

[Bazal]

BF is still not in the same universe as the point. Normally I ignore him entirely but I can't help but try and rectify stupid....

A shot to the thigh is more dangerous than just about anywhere in the torso. The femur is a major bone, and the femoral artery is easily hit either by the bullet or a fragment of femur. You can literally bleed out faster than a heart shot. DARPA actually developed a glue like powder that you pour into a wound specifically for arterial shots, of which the femoral is the most common, because by the time you get a tourniquet the victim is often already dead.

If you shoot at the legs you have a smaller target. You miss, there's a good chance someone else dies and you get stabbed (even if you hit, because it's not a stopping shot)....worth it, right?

You are disgustingly stupid, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and attitudes like yours are genuinely damaging. Just stop having an opinion on anything because you aren't bright enough to deserve one.

 

[Different kind of Rabbit]

I see only one acceptable way to solve this discussion.

I will graciously volunteer to shoot BF in the leg.

If he dies, then we know he is wrong. If he lives then I'll need to shoot him in the other leg just to be sure.

 

[Different kind of Rabbit]

I can't guarantee that I will be able to tell the difference between his leg or his face.

 

[Bulldog Force]

BF is still not in the same universe as the point. Normally I ignore him entirely but I can't help but try and rectify stupid....

A shot to the thigh is more dangerous than just about anywhere in the torso. The femur is a major bone, and the femoral artery is easily hit either by the bullet or a fragment of femur. You can literally bleed out faster than a heart shot. DARPA actually developed a glue like powder that you pour into a wound specifically for arterial shots, of which the femoral is the most common, because by the time you get a tourniquet the victim is often already dead.

If you shoot at the legs you have a smaller target. You miss, there's a good chance someone else dies and you get stabbed (even if you hit, because it's not a stopping shot)....worth it, right?

You are disgustingly stupid, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and attitudes like yours are genuinely damaging. Just stop having an opinion on anything because you aren't bright enough to deserve one.

:thumb

 

[Bulldog Force]

I can't guarantee that I will be able to tell the difference between his leg or his face.

 

[Eelementary]

IF a major artery is impaled... IF.

However, the odds of dying are far greater if you're shot in the upper body where all your major organs are - liver, heart, lungs etc...

Now, accept it or dismiss it, you're right or I'm wrong as far as you're concerned, I don't care, I'm not arguing this case anymore. I've had my say.

Now in other news...

LACK OF SNOW ON HOUSE LEADS TO DRUG BUST IN THE NETHERLANDS

http://7online.com/news/whats-missing-from-this-house-led-to-a-drug-bust/514461/

:lol:

It's a forum - discussions occur here.

But the very post you wrote stated several different ways you can die from a GSW to the leg, and yet now the only real threat is if an artery is nicked?

There are numerous cases of people being shot in the lungs, heart and head and surviving, but ask a police officer or soldier what results in more deaths, and your be surprised at their answers.

My good mate was posted in Afghanistan, and he says several insurgents died from thigh wounds because the time frame is so narrow in which to act.

 

[Dani]

 

[Bulldog Force]

 

[muzby]

give it a rest mate.. please...

 

[Twizzle]

dani knows

 

[Different kind of Rabbit]

Read somewhere that apparently a game of rugby league will be played tonight...