Superthread LXXIII: Honouring He Who Shall Not Be Named

[Misanthrope]

I saw an interview with Aslan. It amazes me how he freely admits that he picks and chooses from the Qu'ran and the Hadith to basically pick his own religion in order to fit his own modern worldview. It would seem easier and better to just form your own worldview independently of the text completely.

Why not, eh? That's basically how the religious texts were constructed. The Bible as we know it today was heavily edited by the Romans at the time when they were adopting it as their state religion. I know I do the same with the Bible. f**k Leviticus.

 

[whall15]

Why not, eh? That's basically how the religious texts were constructed. The Bible as we know it today was heavily edited by the Romans at the time when they were adopting it as their state religion. I know I do the same with the Bible. f**k Leviticus.

That's kind of his point. I just don't get the point of it. I just don't see why you can't do it without the book altogether.

 

[Misanthrope]

That's kind of his point. I just don't get the point of it. I just don't see why you can't do it without the book altogether.

It's possible to believe in a higher power without believing that a book written by men reflects His (or Her) teachings.

 

[whall15]

It's possible to believe in a higher power without believing that a book written by men reflects His (or Her) teachings.

Oh I get that, though I can't agree but Aslan basically cherry-picks and accepts the bits he likes and ignores the others from the book.

I don't see why he can't just do that without the book altogether.

 

[Misanthrope]

Oh I get that, though I can't agree but Aslan basically cherry-picks and accepts the bits he likes and ignores the others from the book.

I don't see why he can't just do that without the book altogether.

With different portions of the books written by different people at different times, perhaps he just places a greater emphasis on those written by those who weren't insane?

I completely ignore Leviticus, for example. He's a product of a vastly different time and should have been removed from the Bible long ago.

If the Church were serious about adapting to modern times, they'd undergo a reformation.

 

[whall15]

With different portions of the books written by different people at different times, perhaps he just places a greater emphasis on those written by those who weren't insane?

I completely ignore Leviticus, for example. He's a product of a vastly different time and should have been removed from the Bible long ago.

If the Church were serious about adapting to modern times, they'd undergo a reformation.

If they were to remove everything that is unsuitable from a moral or factual perspective they'd be left with a very small pamphlet.

 

[Misanthrope]

If they were to remove everything that is unsuitable from a moral or factual perspective they'd be left with a very small pamphlet.

:lol:

I don't need them to remove stuff that can't be proved. We'd have a lot of short history books if we decided that Herodotus' ramblings weren't valid.

Just make it accessible and less bigoted. Allow priests to marry, remove some of the rampant Jew hating, and be inclusive.

 

[whall15]

In your view of the word I'd accept He probably was, but recoil from using it due to the nature of the word.

Secondly, go do some research on slavery in the 1st century. Its indentured servantry, like Victorian England's servant system rather than race based ownership of the 13th to 18th centuries.

Just remembered that I forgot to respond to this.

There was certainly a racial element to the slavery of the Old Testament, thats why the rules were more lenient towards the ownership of foreign slaves compared to Israelites, including a fair degree of sex slavery. Even if I were to concede the point that it wasn't based upon racial animus, the practice of owning a human being as property is heinous enough.

I'm not conceding the point that it was indentured servitude and not slavery, both indentured servitude and slavery were in practice at the time.

 

[Bazal]

The problem isn't who Christians believe in or worship, it's how many (especially the church) interpret a bunch of stories written up to centuries later and enforce judgement based on a 2000 year old world view that is entirely obsolete.

Histories greatest mass murderers pale into insignificance against the deaths caused by the church and other religious bodies

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

SuperThread is SuperCereal tonight.

 

[Misanthrope]

The problem isn't who Christians believe in or worship, it's how many (especially the church) interpret a bunch of stories written up to centuries later and enforce judgement based on a 2000 year old world view that is entirely obsolete.

Histories greatest mass murderers pale into insignificance against the deaths caused by the church and other religious bodies

I'm just glad you didn't wheel out the old 'religion has killed more people than war' line. The majority of major wars have had nothing to do with religion, yet people still wheel that old gem out.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Honestly, religion is probably the topic I least like discussing.

 

[Cliffhanger]

I don't think we should need religion, I can't understand why any God worth worshiping would demand we identify as part as one of his religions, can't we just be good people independent of religion and be accepted by an almighty creator.

We shouldn't need scriptures to know not to be arseholes.

 

[Misanthrope]

I don't think we should need religion, I can't understand why any God worth worshiping would demand we identify as part as one of his religions, can't we just be good people independent of religion and be accepted by an almighty creator.

We shouldn't need scriptures to know not to be arseholes.

We shouldn't need laws to tell us not to do bad shit either, but we do.

If there is a God, I doubt he's the one who is saying 'donate lots of money to pedophiles in Rome'.

 

[Misanthrope]

Oh look, my shitmerkin team has decided to score a bunch of second half points once the game was gone.

Stop making it harder to fire Rick Stone, merkins!

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

 

[Misanthrope]

:lol: :lol:

I doubt he ever said that one either.

More prudish old men trying to make their own eccentricities the mainstream.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

What have the Romans ever done for us?

 

[Bazal]

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Wine!

 

[Cliffhanger]

Has anyone checked out that Mr Robot show?