Superthread XXXVII

[BDR]

So ridiculous that he's been stripped without a positive drug test. I love watching cycling but the politics around the sport are ridiculous.

 

[Bazal]

You can if your rivals can only beat you by stealing your product.

That's why iPhones use Samsungchipsets I suppose

 

[Bazal]

funny how Lance Arrstrong's medals cannot be awarded retrospectively to the other place getters, as they virtually all be banned for doping

his name has been srtuck form the records so now there are no official winners or place getters

its like the Tour De Frog never happened

Ironically, even if it's not official, that means Cadel "won" the 2005 tour. He finished 8th but everyone above him was doping. Dark days. f**k Armstrong anyway, amazed it took so long to get the cheating merkin

 

[Jason Maher]

Perhaps it took so long because they had nothing on him?

 

[thorson1987]

Perhaps it took so long because they had nothing on him?

This.

 

[Bazal]

Anyone who seriously believes he wasn't juicing is blind IMO

 

[Jason Maher]

It doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is no one has ever managed to prove that he doped, despite many, many attempts to do so.

 

[Bazal]

And yet he's been dine for it and banned for life. That doesn't happen without some modicum of proof, either.

 

[BunniesMan]

Anyone who seriously believes he wasn't juicing is blind IMO

Odds are he was probably cheating, but it's unfair to destroy a mans career on a "probably" and on witness testimony drowning in "conflict of interest".

And the people who have done this, will the hundreds of millions less he raises for cancer make them happy? They've banned him in retirement for life with no failed tests, meanwhile cyclists in their primes who actually fail tests get a year or two. It's ridiculous.

He hasn't been treated fairly, he has been singled out and it's unfair.

 

[Bazal]

It's not unfair. He cheated.

 

[BunniesMan]

And yet he's been dine for it and banned for life. That doesn't happen without some modicum of proof, either.

On witness testimony and circumstantial bullshit. 0 hard evidence.

This wasn't a court of law. This is a sporting body. They had an axe to grind and made it happen.

 

[Bazal]

Lol...yeah, they lynched their own shining light for no reason. Jesus you're dumb

 

[BunniesMan]

It's not unfair. He cheated.

He hasn't been treated like every other cyclist would so it is unfair. And there is no real proof to suggest he cheated.

By that logic your boss could get 10 of your colleagues to say they saw you stealing money from the business. There is no proof you did besides you having a healthy bank account, no video evidence of you cracking open the safe, no impartial hard evidence of you taking the money. But based on witness testimony by people with ulterior motives for saying what they're saying, you're punished.

I bet you wouldn't like that.

 

[BunniesMan]

Lol...yeah, they lynched their own shining light for no reason. Jesus you're dumb

He's not their shining light anymore you moron. He's been highly critical of them for years and he's retired now. They had to go for a big fish and nail a big fish to make their sport look legit.

They want people thinking from now and into the future "gee, they even got Lance Armstrong, there can't be any more cheaters in the sport".

 

[Jubileeboy]

They wouldn't have got those reviews and sales if they had to rely on their own creativity to make the product and not just cherry pick Steve Jobs' best ideas.

If Samsung thought their product was good enough by itself they never would have done something that ended up costing them a billion dollars in court.

Please jump in front of a train.
Now f##k off genius and do humanity a favour.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

triple header today and just got a 24 pack of 500ml cans of Hollandia for 35 bucks. Happy days

 

[BunniesMan]

Love it when there's 3 games in a day and they don't OVERLAP. That's the most frustrating thing ever.

Pity there's only a combined 2 finals contenders in all 3 games.

 

[Twizzle]

personally I think he stayed one step ahead of the technology

 

[Didgi]

There has to be some doubt surrounding him, there will always be doubt surrounding this era simply because of the amount of doping that has been proven - though that's not to say it hadn't gone largely undetected for a long time before the last 15 years or so.

However, for a bloke to be handed down the harshest penalty on some very flimsy evidence, by an agency he has criticised and one who has been written off by cycling bodies (not saying they don't have their own motive) deserves the same amount of suspicion.

If Armstrong was cheating, nothing to say the rest of the world's heroes weren't, either, or that a couple of shirty teammates can't ruin a cyclists career. That Cadel in 8th place is the highest legitimate result for '05 could just as easily mean that he's the best at not getting caught - though I'm not alleging that he did cheat, rather it's possible.

 

[Skinner]

triple header today and just got a 24 pack of 500ml cans of Hollandia for 35 bucks. Happy days

Hmmmm not the best brew I've had, but that is a sharp price