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Suspensions should be replaced by fines

hellteam

First Grade
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I think players should be fined instead of missing games through suspension.

Suspensions don't just punish the players themselves, but they punish the fans. If we pay good money for a season ticket/game ticket, why should we not be allowed to watch them just for breaking the rules? Sometimes the foul acts are so minor it's laughable. Players are already injured enough these days, why rub players out of the game more than necessary?

I'm all for punishment for illegal play, but punish the players, not the punters. Who knows, maybe fines would go a longer way to stamping out foul play then suspensions ever would.
 
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Been saying it for years.

Only RL would cruel its own product by removing its elite players from the field unnecessarily.

In SL they usually have a fine and a suspension but they rarely get more than a couple of weeks. Of course the refs there have the guts to send players off too. You'll often see a week ban and 300 pound fine for the kinds of things NRL players get four weeks for.

The NRL smashes players for minor careless acts that are part and parcel of a physical game played at a fast pace. And as for banning blokes for hitting someone with a shoulder in the chest, these clowns really have lost the plot. They're actually bringing in new reasons to strip the talent out of the product.
 

redvscotty

First Grade
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What do you propose the fines be? 2000 bucks for a swinging arm?

I'm on 400k, 5 minutes to go in the Prelim, and Thurston makes a break through the middle. I can either grab for the shirt and miss the tackle, or throw a swinging arm and take him the f**k out, which should also knock him around enough that he may not be looking straight when he tries to kick the winning field goal.

$2000 bucks is nothing, in fact, the club would probably give me a nice little gift to compensate if we make it through due to my heroics.

Ridiculous suggestion.
 

Dragon Jim

Juniors
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306
Perhaps Grade 1 indiscretions could be a fine rather than missing a single week. Especially for something innocuous
 

Joker's Wild

Coach
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17,894
What do you propose the fines be? 2000 bucks for a swinging arm?

I'm on 400k, 5 minutes to go in the Prelim, and Thurston makes a break through the middle. I can either grab for the shirt and miss the tackle, or throw a swinging arm and take him the f**k out, which should also knock him around enough that he may not be looking straight when he tries to kick the winning field goal.

$2000 bucks is nothing, in fact, the club would probably give me a nice little gift to compensate if we make it through due to my heroics.

Ridiculous suggestion.

Pretty much this

The club pays the fine and gets to keep their stars on the paddock after a deliberate foul play
 

Rod

Bench
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I actually think it's a workable solution. Hit the players in the pocket where it hurts. The fines would be a percentage of the offending player's wage under the salary cap so it doesn't result in the more well paid player's not caring about copping a fine.

Why should the Bulldogs benefit because of something Luke did in a completely different game vs the Roosters? Or conversely, why should the Knights suffer 6 months later for something Tariq Sims did while playing for a whole other club?
 

Pierced Soul

First Grade
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9,202
Perhaps Grade 1 indiscretions could be a fine rather than missing a single week. Especially for something innocuous

that part makes more sense. but the reality is there has to be a deterrent for foul play and a couple of grand is nothing if it means winning an important game

i'm really curious how the concussion rule will be monitored in the gf. so far it appears plenty of players havent been removed from the field and the clubs have been getting half fines or not fined at all. they're thretaening competition points, but if Inglis is conccussed with the game in the balance souths arent going to care about losing 2 points next year, they want the gf this year
 

Valheru

Coach
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Great idea. "You nearlly killed someone Joe, you are fined 5k, have fun on the weekend".
 

papabear

Juniors
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No way it favours the rich clubs.

Canberras best player might be on 600k of the salary cap.

he gets fined 1/10s of his official salary for a shoulder charge that 60k or 1/10th gone for him.

Broncos best player might be on 450k on the salary cap and another 550k in the TPP he gets 1/10 fine of his official salary for a shoulder charge then he goes for 45K, it isn't fair.

Not to mention the Brisbane bloke will probably get fixed up by Andrew Gee.

It should only happen if there was some faith and integrity surrounding the salary cap which currently there isn't. Because its in the NRLs interest to keep the roosters and broncos doing as well as possible, not that the broncos do anything with their 10 million squad.
 

redvscotty

First Grade
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8,008
I actually think it's a workable solution. Hit the players in the pocket where it hurts. The fines would be a percentage of the offending player's wage under the salary cap so it doesn't result in the more well paid player's not caring about copping a fine.

Why should the Bulldogs benefit because of something Luke did in a completely different game vs the Roosters? Or conversely, why should the Knights suffer 6 months later for something Tariq Sims did while playing for a whole other club?

So you're advocating a percentage based fine depending on the offense?

So Luke's tackle gets him a 5% fine. He gets paid 400k, so it's a 20k fine.
Jarryd Hayne does the same tackle. He's on 800k though, so he pays 40k.

Seems fair and logical.

:crazy:
 

WaznTheGreat

Referee
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I think players should be fined instead of missing games through suspension.

Suspensions don't just punish the players themselves, but they punish the fans. If we pay good money for a season ticket/game ticket, why should we not be allowed to watch them just for breaking the rules? Sometimes the foul acts are so minor it's laughable. Players are already injured enough these days, why rub players out of the game more than necessary?

I'm all for punishment for illegal play, but punish the players, not the punters. Who knows, maybe fines would go a longer way to stamping out foul play then suspensions ever would.

Non Eels fans are a bunch of slubberdegullion's
 
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This idea is full of holes as some have pointed out. Firstly, would it be a deterrent? Unlikely as the clubs would pay the fine or recompense the player for the fine in many situations. It would encourage unscrupulous teams to pay people to break the rules on the field in my book.

Also, considering it is the clubs that pay the players, how do you enforce it? The NRL does not pay the players, their club does. AS I said above, even if the club agreed to deduct the fine, how would we know that they then wouldn't pay it on the player's behalf?

It is an incredibly daft idea.
 

ek999

First Grade
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Once again, if Luke didn't have a poor judiciary record he would be playing on the weekend. His past indiscretions have come back to haunt him.
 

Frank_Grimes

First Grade
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I could get behind the idea of a Grade 1 offence attracting a fine instead of suspension, but do we really need to make it more complicated?

The system as it stands is workable. The problem is that the NRL put inconsistent idiots in the MRC and Judiciary. Put trained professionals with no possibility of agendas or bias in these positions and you'll start seeing more consistency against the process.
 

hellteam

First Grade
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This idea is full of holes as some have pointed out. Firstly, would it be a deterrent? Unlikely as the clubs would pay the fine or recompense the player for the fine in many situations. It would encourage unscrupulous teams to pay people to break the rules on the field in my book.

Also, considering it is the clubs that pay the players, how do you enforce it? The NRL does not pay the players, their club does. AS I said above, even if the club agreed to deduct the fine, how would we know that they then wouldn't pay it on the player's behalf?

It is an incredibly daft idea.

There is a few holes, but it would be pretty easy to enforce.

The players have to pay the NRL the fine personally. It's not deducted from their pay, they pay it, just like anyone would pay a speeding fine.

All payments from the club to the player should be monitored under salary cap rules, so that would stop them being able to pay it.
 
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