Taylor has lost his job

[Leber]

Matt Eliott is interviewing

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Still a better coach than Brad Arthur

 

[beave]

Well done Wests Tigers, you just equalled the pathetic 2002 NQ Cowboys record of sacking a head coach after 3 rounds of the regular season..............

Trivia, Murray Hurst coached his last NQ game against the Mark Murray coached Storm side only to be replaced by Graham Murray..........

 

[DiegoNT]

Well done Wests Tigers, you just equalled the pathetic 2002 NQ Cowboys record of sacking a head coach after 3 rounds of the regular season..............

Trivia, Murray Hurst coached his last NQ game against the Mark Murray coached Storm side only to be replaced by Graham Murray..........

From memory didn't Murray lead the cowboys to their first ever finals 18 months later, first grand final a year later and completely change the fortunes of what was a struggling club?

 

[Rabbit toes]

has anyone ever been sacked 3 games into a season? Seems awfully early (Matt Elliott would have to go close too)

Was henjak canned a few weeks from round 1?

 

[Captain Apollo]

Was henjak canned a few weeks from round 1?

Yes. The Broncos announced they'd sacked Henjak on Monday 21 February 2011. The first game of that season was on Friday 11 March 2011.

 

[beave]

From memory didn't Murray lead the cowboys to their first ever finals 18 months later, first grand final a year later and completely change the fortunes of what was a struggling club?

Yeah 03 we missed the finals by about 2 wins and then made the finals in 04, GF 05.

IMO it was a combined effort of Muzz taking over as coach, Billy Johnstone whipping the boys into shape and Frank Stanton taking over as Temp CEO and then replaced Dennis Keefe (local guy) stepping up from the Tsv crocs. Once the front office got sorted it all fell into place.

 

[davi]

I'm not sure why some on this board like to put the boot into Blocker. He's given some interesting insight into the problems at the Tigers.


"BALMAIN legend Steve Roach says he was shocked by the sacking of Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor, seeing it as a shortsighted solution to a range of broader problems.

Taylor was axed after two big losses from the first three games, with Sunday’s 40-point thrashing to the Raiders the straw that broke the camel’s back.

But regardless of who the long-term appointment is to replace him, Roach is worried the club has shortcomings that won’t be overcome.

One of his biggest concerns is a recruitment policy that has become obsessed with retaining the ‘big four’ at the expense of a forward pack that can compete against monsters like Canberra’s.

He says no coach can put in place a premiership winning game plan if the pack’s getting bullied, identifying the departure of Gareth Ellis at the end of 2012 as a moment the club has never recovered from.

“Aaron Woods has been carrying that pack for five years,” Roach told foxsports.com.au.

“ ... The Tigers have never been the same since Gareth Ellis retired. He was our leader and we never replaced him with a tough, hard edged type of player.


“If you want Woodsy to be your captain and you want him to be one of the greats of your club, well he needs help, he can’t do it on his own.

“He’s got no one else and that’s not being disrespectful to the other blokes who are playing, we need one more metre eater in the middle of the ruck, a big bopper, then all of those kids like Jesse Sue and Ava Seumanufagai and all those blokes will be better players."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...x/news-story/a4a35c9f0422bff0452211fb2ee3e29a

 

[Rabbit toes]

Yes. The Broncos announced they'd sacked Henjak on Monday 21 February 2011. The first game of that season was on Friday 11 March 2011.

Cheers
Henjak still coaching?

 

[DiegoNT]

Yeah 03 we missed the finals by about 2 wins and then made the finals in 04, GF 05.

IMO it was a combined effort of Muzz taking over as coach, Billy Johnstone whipping the boys into shape and Frank Stanton taking over as Temp CEO and then replaced Dennis Keefe (local guy) stepping up from the Tsv crocs. Once the front office got sorted it all fell into place.

So sometimes sacking a coach early can have a good effect. Like cowboys or broncos who replaced Henjak with Griffin and went within one game of GO (their second best result of the last decade)

Or sometimes you can punt a coach early and have 2 years McFadden or even worse, Langmack

 

[big hit!]

Taylor was a poor choice to begin with. He may have great footy smarts, but the bloke doesn't have management skills if the experience with Souths was anything to go by.

All this begins at the top, and by that I mean the board because they signed off on his appointment. We all know how much disunity there is among the Balmain and Western Suburbs sides. Until this is rectified, and there are directors who have some sort of clue, the JV will lurch from crisis to crisis.

It's wonderful, innit?!

 

[davi]

So sometimes sacking a coach early can have a good effect. Like cowboys or broncos who replaced Henjak with Griffin and went within one game of GO (their second best result of the last decade)

Or sometimes you can punt a coach early and have 2 years McFadden or even worse, Langmack

Warriors didn't really punt Ivan Cleary. He had one and a half years left on his deal and asked for a extension on top of it. The Warriors declined which was understandable because they were going nowhere so he asked for a release at the end of the season so he could take up the offer at Penrith. They granted it..... Big mistake the Warriors went on a huge run and made the grand final. In hindsight they should gave Clearly the extension, but I don't blame the Warriors for wanting to assess Clearly performance at the end of the season. Nobody at the time where they were on the ladder would have guessed that was going to happen when they knocked back Cleary request for an extension.

 

[Rabbit toes]

 

[no name]

I'm not sure why some on this board like to put the boot into Blocker. He's given some interesting insight into the problems at the Tigers.


"BALMAIN legend Steve Roach says he was shocked by the sacking of Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor, seeing it as a shortsighted solution to a range of broader problems.

Taylor was axed after two big losses from the first three games, with Sunday’s 40-point thrashing to the Raiders the straw that broke the camel’s back.

But regardless of who the long-term appointment is to replace him, Roach is worried the club has shortcomings that won’t be overcome.

One of his biggest concerns is a recruitment policy that has become obsessed with retaining the ‘big four’ at the expense of a forward pack that can compete against monsters like Canberra’s.

He says no coach can put in place a premiership winning game plan if the pack’s getting bullied, identifying the departure of Gareth Ellis at the end of 2012 as a moment the club has never recovered from.

“Aaron Woods has been carrying that pack for five years,” Roach told foxsports.com.au.

“ ... The Tigers have never been the same since Gareth Ellis retired. He was our leader and we never replaced him with a tough, hard edged type of player.


“If you want Woodsy to be your captain and you want him to be one of the greats of your club, well he needs help, he can’t do it on his own.

“He’s got no one else and that’s not being disrespectful to the other blokes who are playing, we need one more metre eater in the middle of the ruck, a big bopper, then all of those kids like Jesse Sue and Ava Seumanufagai and all those blokes will be better players."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...x/news-story/a4a35c9f0422bff0452211fb2ee3e29a

Lol @ Blocker's solution: 'more forwards'
Just like every game he commentates on: 'they need to go through the middle'

It's gonna take a bit more than buying a few forwards to turn the Tigers around.

 

[Frailty]

Tigers are a basket case. They let Farah throw his influence too far, and now they are doing it again with the 'big' four.

If there was some real leadership at the club 2 of the 4 would be let go, and a real recruitment plan put in place. To actually fill out the side to make it balanced and reliable.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

The topic could be the skill of catching bombs at the back, field goal kicking at the clutch or the state of the costa Rican economy and blocker will still answer by wanking over front rowers.

He's rugby leagues equivalent of a vegan

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

Jason Taylor has approached South Sydney for an assistant coaching position, in the hope that he can replace Michael McGuire when he is sacked. .

Meanwhile the rumour is that the Tigers will approach Graham Murray to fill Taylor's position as the Tiger's Head Coach.

 

[Parramatta1947]

Taylor was overated as a coach but the Tigers need to have a hard look at themselves - first Farah was trying to be in control, now the Big 4 are doing the same thing. The players dont run the club.

A change of coach is only going to achieve so much.....

 

[thorson1987]

Jason Taylor has approached South Sydney for an assistant coaching position, in the hope that he can replace Michael McGuire when he is sacked. .

Meanwhile the rumour is that the Tigers will approach Graham Murray to fill Taylor's position as the Tiger's Head Coach.

What, they expect Muzz to coach them from the grave?

 

[adamkungl]

If you think Jason Taylor is the problem at Wests then you don't have a clue about Rugby League.