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Team Changes v Storm

BrissyRedV

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According to @Rugbyleaguenews via twitter, Witt to remain Halfback, Stanley dropped and Quinlan on the bench. No word on who out of the pigs will remain on the bench. Not 100% on this guys reliability.
 

gonz

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Quinlan hooker don't think so.
You really can't pick him on the bench either.

So now that's another kid lost thnx to clueless.

Just to appease him he now picks him regardless
 

BrissyRedV

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I won't judge until I see how it actually pans out re team selection and how he actually performs in the game. My personal preference to combat our lack of size would be to pick 4 pigs on the bench. But as I said not 100% on this guys reliability as a sauce.
 

kit66

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Quinlan hooker don't think so.
You really can't pick him on the bench either.

So now that's another kid lost thnx to clueless.

Just to appease him he now picks him regardless

Some of us have been suggesting you can have Quin on the bench - to come on as halfback with Witt moving to hooker to give Rein a rest. I'd be happy to give that a try. Not sure how reliable Twitter can be, never used it myself.
 

Twenty10

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I won't judge until I see how it actually pans out re team selection and how he actually performs in the game. My personal preference to combat our lack of size would be to pick 4 pigs on the bench. But as I said not 100% on this guys reliability as a sauce.

Agree. Rein (as bad as he is playing) needs to play 80. We need 4 x forwards on bench.
 

BrissyRedV

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Agree. Rein (as bad as he is playing) needs to play 80. We need 4 x forwards on bench.

Rein has been better this year. I think some of the pressure has been taken off him with some quality in the halves. Every time Rein has come off this season, we have lost a lot of momentum. Now this may have been because Kyle who is not suited to the role was coming on or combination of both.
 

hardbaby

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Will Matthews is truly the forgotten man isn't he? He played on the bench in a number of games are was pretty good. He also played a bit of dummy half and was certainly no worse than Stanley. I'd still rather have Williams at 7 and Witt at 14. Garvey obviously hasn't been forgiven so we are scraping the barrel. Having Quinlan on the bench seems a waste. Maybe Will Matthews is a viable short term solution.
 

BennyV

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Rein has been better this year. I think some of the pressure has been taken off him with some quality in the halves. Every time Rein has come off this season, we have lost a lot of momentum. Now this may have been because Kyle who is not suited to the role was coming on or combination of both.

Rein is playing better this year, but to be fair it was a very low bar that he set himself last year. His service is better, he hasn't made silly decisions or mistakes and he's picked a few good moments.

However, watching Parra and Tigpies last night and seeing more creative hookers in Peats and Farah shows more of the kind of hooker I'd like in our team. Someone who can see an opportunity and create something for his teammates. I think that Garvey could have been that player had he kept his hands to himself and I hope he pulls his head in and lifts his game off the field so he can be the best player he can be on it.

On the thread topic, what bout forwards? Is big Josh gunna get a run?
 

bottle

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Making Rein play for 80 when he defends at the level that he does is setting him up for failure.
I hope this rumour is true. We can't maintain the current experiment with Style, he is cruelling us as DH.
I'd be happy to see Quinny get 10-15 mins at the back end of each half testing the big men out around the ruck. If that's at DH so be it. If it's at HB, so be it.
No prob with four forwards on the bench either, but one of them has to be capable of giving Mitch a spell. Apart from Matthews, who else can fill that role? Might be time to reintroduce Garvey to the fold.
 

BrissyRedV

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Rein is playing better this year, but to be fair it was a very low bar that he set himself last year. His service is better, he hasn't made silly decisions or mistakes and he's picked a few good moments.

However, watching Parra and Tigpies last night and seeing more creative hookers in Peats and Farah shows more of the kind of hooker I'd like in our team. Someone who can see an opportunity and create something for his teammates. I think that Garvey could have been that player had he kept his hands to himself and I hope he pulls his head in and lifts his game off the field so he can be the best player he can be on it.

On the thread topic, what bout forwards? Is big Josh gunna get a run?

Nothing was mentioned about forwards. My hope would be that if Price is going to with Quinlan at 14 that he would go with Josh over Harrison with Cooper and Ah Mau filling the other positions.

Rein isn't the greatest hooker and definitely lacks that creativity. There is still hope for Garvey. He is still contracted to us and just needs to straighten his life out. Players like Farah and Smith however are not growing on trees and they both required a few years to mature to the level they currently sit. Lets hope one of our crop can do the same.
 

BrissyRedV

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Making Rein play for 80 when he defends at the level that he does is setting him up for failure.
I hope this rumour is true. We can't maintain the current experiment with Style, he is cruelling us as DH.
I'd be happy to see Quinny get 10-15 mins at the back end of each half testing the big men out around the ruck. If that's at DH so be it. If it's at HB, so be it.
No prob with four forwards on the bench either, but one of them has to be capable of giving Mitch a spell. Apart from Matthews, who else can fill that role? Might be time to reintroduce Garvey to the fold.

I think Rein could handle the 80 minutes, but may need to be introduced to it over a number of games. It will be interesting to see how Quinlan is used. It could be a great move to bring him on fresh when everyone else is tired. The defensive side of playing hooker is the main problem, but the Roosters were able to do it with Mortimer so why not.

Garvey I think is a way off being ready after his off field issues. If we were to use a 2 hooker rotation he would be the best option IMO but his head needs to be 100% ready.

I suggest the 4 pig bench mainly to combat the lack of the size and dominance of our pack. having a continuous rotation of fresh big men may help.
 

Minh

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It's a good move removing Stanley from the dummy half role, he is a half, 5/8 and not a hooker. Will Mathews is a far better option as mentioned by HB, but seems to be a forgotten man.
 

hardbaby

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...No prob with four forwards on the bench either, but one of them has to be capable of giving Mitch a spell. Apart from Matthews, who else can fill that role?

I don't think so bottle. I watched Sutton fill in at hooker a couple of games ago and he was terrible. It is a highly specialised and strategic position.

Witt is the obvious solution and given there isn't much between him and Williams it really needs to be Williams at 7 and Witt at 14. The team would be far better balanced and if Williams is struggling you have a tailor made substitution on the bench.

Quinlan will go ok as a link man but he rarely takes the line on and I'm not sold on his option taking or communication. We were in the process of turning him from a fullback into a half and now we are turning him from a half into a hooker. Coaching 101.
 

bottle

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I don't think so bottle. I watched Sutton fill in at hooker a couple of games ago and he was terrible. It is a highly specialised and strategic position.

Witt is the obvious solution and given there isn't much between him and Williams it really needs to be Williams at 7 and Witt at 14. The team would be far better balanced and if Williams is struggling you have a tailor made substitution on the bench.

Quinlan will go ok as a link man but he rarely takes the line on and I'm not sold on his option taking or communication. We were in the process of turning him from a fullback into a half and now we are turning him from a half into a hooker. Coaching 101.

hb I'm not that hung up on converting players into different roles.
50 years ago a bloke by the name of Smith was a centre until he got a run in Firsts in his spiritual position of HB. We're still trying to find someone to fill his boots.
Hornby, Lockyer, it can be done.
Sure these blokes were champions of some note. Necessity is a mother though so I'm told.

You're right about Sutton though, he was terrible.
Re Quinny, again HB might not be his go. He appears to be something of an opportunist, not an organising type. I just think that at DH, latter stages of a game against tired forwards, he could provide some X factor.
I'm a keyboard coach like all of us though. We have a mix in the making, I just think that the best 17 has Quinlan in it somewhere, he has footy instincts.
 
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Will Matthews is truly the forgotten man isn't he? He played on the bench in a number of games are was pretty good. He also played a bit of dummy half and was certainly no worse than Stanley. I'd still rather have Williams at 7 and Witt at 14. Garvey obviously hasn't been forgiven so we are scraping the barrel. Having Quinlan on the bench seems a waste. Maybe Will Matthews is a viable short term solution.

hardbaby, I don't think he's forgotten. I think he's just rubbish.
 

possm

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In my opinion, Witt and Williams are our contenders for halfback until someone else provides a challenge through excellent efforts at halfback in the Cutters.

Given the size of our pack, Price should select four forwards on the bench for the majority of games this year. It would serve us well if Garvey could be one of the four however, if he is not being considered for selection then maybe Mathews will fit the bill.

Quinlan has had his opportunity in first grade for now and no doubt will get further opportunities this year through player injuries and SOO. So Quinlan should be happy and return to the position of fullback in the Cutters.

Peter Mata'Utia has been performing well in the Cutters and this week should make way for Quinlan at fullback and move to right centre in the Cutters. I believe he is knocking on the door for a run in first grade at right centre.

I hope Josh Ailaomai gets a run tomorrow night and if possible Garvey be included on the bench however, I think the Garvey return is for another day. Just the same, I believe our best team for tomorrow night would be:

1. Dugan
2. Morris
3. Beale
4. Farrell
5. Nightingale
6. Widdop
7. Witt
8. Stockwell
9. Rein
10. Hunt
11. Creagh
12. Thompson
13. Merrin

14. Garvey/Mathews
15. Harrison
16. Ah Mau
17. Ailaomai
 

watatank

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If that's the team named then my guess is that Quinlan will get f**k all game time unless we're well ahead or well behind.
 

watatank

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I would just go four forwards off the bench and just make do with whoever at dummy half while Rein is off the field. This week that would probably be Harrison, maybe if we're closer to full strength it can be Cooper, basically whatever forward can pass a bit.
 

BrissyRedV

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In my opinion, Witt and Williams are our contenders for halfback until someone else provides a challenge through excellent efforts at halfback in the Cutters.

Given the size of our pack, Price should select four forwards on the bench for the majority of games this year. It would serve us well if Garvey could be one of the four however, if he is not being considered for selection then maybe Mathews will fit the bill.

Quinlan has had his opportunity in first grade for now and no doubt will get further opportunities this year through player injuries and SOO. So Quinlan should be happy and return to the position of fullback in the Cutters.

Peter Mata'Utia has been performing well in the Cutters and this week should make way for Quinlan at fullback and move to right centre in the Cutters. I believe he is knocking on the door for a run in first grade at right centre.

I hope Josh Ailaomai gets a run tomorrow night and if possible Garvey be included on the bench however, I think the Garvey return is for another day. Just the same, I believe our best team for tomorrow night would be:

1. Dugan
2. Morris
3. Beale
4. Farrell
5. Nightingale
6. Widdop
7. Witt
8. Stockwell
9. Rein
10. Hunt
11. Creagh
12. Thompson
13. Merrin

14. Garvey/Mathews
15. Harrison
16. Ah Mau
17. Ailaomai

Don't rate Cooper?
 
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