Team list Tuesday- Week 3: Grand Final Qualifier - Parra v Cowboys discussion thread

[Poupou Escobar]

I don’t know. I just don’t want Bailey on Waqa on the same side defending together.

Why would they? Sivo is on the left and Penisini is on the right. One of them would need to change sides for Blake and Simonsson to defend on the same side. f**king think before you post ffs

 

[eels_fan]

Yep

Sivo & Simmonsen

Waqa & Penisini

for mine that’s what we run out if Opa is out

 

[the phantom menace]

yeah, why would he do that merkins? Good old BA dig!! He has never ever done it before when there were several options available "……..

I will cry if the Opacic-less team sheet ends up looking like this again (albeit with Blake and Sivo on the wings).

 

[the phantom menace]

Why would they? Sivo is on the left and Penisini is on the right. One of them would need to change sides for Blake and Simonsson to defend on the same side. f**king think before you post ffs

We don't care how they vote...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

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I will cry if the Opacic-less team sheet ends up looking like this again (albeit with Blake and Sivo on the wings).

The fact Perham was in first grade and Drown was in the centres proves we had a serious outside backs crisis. Sivo, Dunster, Russell, Blake and Opacic were all unavailable.

 

[the phantom menace]

And now it's Dunster, Russell, and Opacic are likely unavailable - or less likely to be selected in the starting 13 than Arthur.

 

[the phantom menace]

But also noting that Coach Arthur had been quoted in the off-season about wanting to try Brown in the centres to allow Jake some game time in the halves - and actually pulled that move in the Penrith trial game (without hardly any backline players unavailable).

Pointless premiers: Rampant Eels shut out Panthers in final hit-out

An almost full-strength Eels side was simply too good for the defending premiers, who had only a handful of their big names on deck in a 36-0 hammering.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And rightly so. What had Drown shown at that point that he couldn’t have done in the centres?

 

[Bandwagon]

I don’t think we can afford to disrupt our forward rotation so for me Niukore stays where he is.

simmonsen was playing centre in Cup for a few weeks so I think he slots in and keep Waqa on the wing. They can interchange throughout the game if necessary

Yeah, and as per any other game having Niukore in the forwards gives us cover for an injury in the backs. We name him in the centres and we lose that versatility.

That then only leaves us the option ( assuming JA will be named ) of moving Drown into centres to replace an injury and JA into the halves to replace Drown, which is back to the line up that got beaten by the Cows last time.

Unless of course we name another back on the bench ( which would seem super moronic ) or we name Cartwright in place of ??? on the bench

And I really wouldn't like to see Cartwright defending any further out than fourth, maybe third at a stretch man in. He'll get carved up to far out on the edge.

 

[Bandwagon]

But also noting that Coach Arthur had been quoted in the off-season about wanting to try Brown in the centres to allow Jake some game time in the halves - and actually pulled that move in the Penrith trial game (without hardly any backline players unavailable).

Pointless premiers: Rampant Eels shut out Panthers in final hit-out

An almost full-strength Eels side was simply too good for the defending premiers, who had only a handful of their big names on deck in a 36-0 hammering.

www.smh.com.au

In a trial, where it's meaningless apart from getting a hit out or testing combinations, pretty poor evidence of intent as opposed to not doing it in the first six games of year, and even as far as naming Niukore in our round six loss to the Tigers above switching Drown in the centres.

It wasn't until round seven where Jakey got a full tilt in the Halves against the Knights, whom we flogged, despite having to go down that road due to injury leaving us that thin we were looking outside the club to sign an outside back as replacement / cover. And that only lasted for the next game against the Cowboys.

Both Nrown and Carty were on the bench for the Cows match as well, so it's not like they were being overlooked for Jakey boy either.

And that line up was done and dusted from there, so none of that points to starting Jake and pushing Dylbro to centre as a preferred option, but it does point to it being an option of pretty much last resort. So it aint happening whilst we've got a body capable of playing centre / wing in reserve.

 

[Bandwagon]

And rightly so. What had Drown shown at that point that he couldn’t have done in the centres?

And more importantly right now, is Drown has shown the kind of form that demands he's left in the halves.

 

[Gronk]

A takeaway from this weekend’s results for me is that all the Ch9 and NewsLtd experts who predicted wins by Canberra and Cronulla or even close matches whilst providing pages of analysis to justify their stance, know f**k all.

 

[Gronk]

I’d like to challenge the notion that the Cows have had a great year or that they are the real deal. Like Cronulla, they have been kissed on the dick and had a rails run to the top 4.

Can they beat us ? Of course they can, because we might not turn up or they may lift in a rush of home ground adrenaline. But I am taking issue with their “real deal” tag and how Paten is the coach on everyone’s shoping lists.

The difference between them, the Sharks and us ? They actually won the games they were supposed to win.

Notes:

1. They beat us in NT in one of our didn’t turn up weeks. I think we beat ourselves rather than they beat us. Fair play, they got the chocolates.
2. They beat Storm, the week after Pennys beat Storm. Can’t argue with that.
3. The win against Pennys was vs a reggies team.
4. They beat Cronulla last week.

Legend:

GREEN - losses
YELLOW - wins v shit teams
RED - wins v decent teams

 

[84 Baby]

 

[84 Baby]

Why would they? Sivo is on the left and Penisini is on the right. One of them would need to change sides for Blake and Simonsson to defend on the same side. f**king think before you post ffs

Too easy!

 

[Bandwagon]

I’d like to challenge the notion that the Cows have had a great year or that they are the real deal. Like Cronulla, they have been kissed on the dick and had a rails run to the top 4.

Can they beat us ? Of course they can, because we might not turn up or they may lift in a rush of home ground adrenaline. But I am taking issue with their “real deal” tag and how Paten is the coach on everyone’s shoping lists.

The difference between them, the Sharks and us ? They actually won the games they were supposed to win.

Notes:

1. They beat us in NT in one of our didn’t turn up weeks. I think we beat ourselves rather than they beat us. Fair play, they got the chocolates.
2. They beat Storm, the week after Pennys beat Storm. Can’t argue with that.
3. The win against Pennys was vs a reggies team.
4. They beat Cronulla last week.

Legend:

GREEN - losses
YELLOW - wins v shit teams
RED - wins v decent teams

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The thing is around Payten as a coach that you need to consider in terms of his performance is not just where they are at now, but where they came from to get there.

They've gone from conceding 748 points last year, making them the worst defence in the comp by that measure, to the second best this year conceding just 361 points. That change in defense is why they finished where they did, and they did it with the only major change to their roster being a half back in Townsend who many didn't rate, and a few unproven no names or young fellas really making their mark.

Sure They haven't had the toughest of draws, with 10 games against the eventual top eight and only 5 wins from that ( Two of them being against Canberra early in the season when they were odds on to finish well outta the eight ) so you could easily say they were kissed on the dick with that, but even with a tougher draw, they still woulda made the eight based on the improvement in their defence alone, and from where they were last year, that's a good rap for Peyton.

Coach of year though? Yeah I dunno, if they beat us this week and make the GF, I'd say yeah, probably deserves it, lose and he's an also ran. Not because of that one game mind, but because that one game probably tips the scales either way for mine.

Same as if we had lost to Canberra I'd have called it underperformance from us and therefore BA as well.

 

[Jake the snake]

I’d like to challenge the notion that the Cows have had a great year or that they are the real deal. Like Cronulla, they have been kissed on the dick and had a rails run to the top 4.

Can they beat us ? Of course they can, because we might not turn up or they may lift in a rush of home ground adrenaline. But I am taking issue with their “real deal” tag and how Paten is the coach on everyone’s shoping lists.

The difference between them, the Sharks and us ? They actually won the games they were supposed to win.

Notes:

1. They beat us in NT in one of our didn’t turn up weeks. I think we beat ourselves rather than they beat us. Fair play, they got the chocolates.
2. They beat Storm, the week after Pennys beat Storm. Can’t argue with that.
3. The win against Pennys was vs a reggies team.
4. They beat Cronulla last week.

Legend:

GREEN - losses
YELLOW - wins v shit teams
RED - wins v decent teams

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Great post. So interesting.

 

[Jake the snake]

Why would they? Sivo is on the left and Penisini is on the right. One of them would need to change sides for Blake and Simonsson to defend on the same side. f**king think before you post ffs

Too easy

 

[hindy111]

Great post. So interesting.

I think it gave me reverse insomnia. Was like a sleeping tablet on steroids reading it

 

[Gronk]

I think it gave me reverse insomnia. Was like a sleeping tablet on steroids reading it

Steroids might balance out your physique issue mate.