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Teig Wilton

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He started off well in career looked so much upside, he just seems to have got to a point and that's it.

You can have that in your pack, but we seem to have too many of them.

Next year AFB, then we drop to Nikora who is hit and miss and Cam who dosent strike fear in teams.
Then a group of players all about the same.
I can handle JC and Tooks in that for the moment as hardly have any games underbelt, but the rest that's a lot of mid table players
 

Frenzy.

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He started off well in career looked so much upside, he just seems to have got to a point and that's it.

You can have that in your pack, but we seem to have too many of them.

Next year AFB, then we drop to Nikora who is hit and miss and Cam who dosent strike fear in teams.
Then a group of players all about the same.
I can handle JC and Tooks in that for the moment as hardly have any games underbelt, but the rest that's a lot of mid table players
So why is the Wilton the scapegoat?
 

Chimp

Bench
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I’m not sure we need to be picking out any individuals (though agree Tieg has been average). My question would be, which player (or players) are playing better this year, than last year?

it’s a tricky one, but if the answer is none, or very few, then the coach and management team have questions to answer, as either our coaching is ineffective, or our squad management is poor.
 

Chimp

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I’m not sure we need to be picking out any individuals (though agree Tieg has been average). My question would be, which player (or players) are playing better this year, than last year?

it’s a tricky one, but if the answer is none, or very few, then the coach and management team have questions to answer, as either our coaching is ineffective, or our squad management is poor.
I’ve been having a think about this….

I reckon of our top 18, 11 have gone backwards, 3 the same, 4 that have improved (including 3 who are new to 17);


Kennedy - BACKWARDS

Ronnie/Katoa - Great early in season, but both have significantly dropped off - BACKWARDS

Jesse - Slightly better

Iro - New in, so better, but nothing to measure against really

Tricky - About the same, maybe slightly better, but playing more, so naturally more experienced

Nicho - BACKWARDS

Toby/BHU/HUNT/OK - BACKWARDS (if I was being generous I could say samey samey)

Tom - A bit like Iro with nothing to measure against - started really good, now dropping off

Blayke - BACKWARDS!

Nikora - BACKWARDS (And I hate that, because I love him)

Tieg - BACKWARDS

Cam - Same

Sifa - Same

Williams - Same
 

fizman

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Coaching is definitely the issue. Fitzgibbon has continually stated “We are trying to find our identity” - we are closing in on 3 seasons and yet, the only identity is our inconsistancy.

When Fitzgibbon took the job he mentioned how excited he was with everything already in place - we all agreed that the Roster didn’t require a huge overhaul, so with that in mind it falls back to the Coaching Staff.

I will say this though, whether it is 3 years, 5 years or 10 years Cameron Ciraldo will coach the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks.
 

shadowboxer

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Coaching is definitely the issue. Fitzgibbon has continually stated “We are trying to find our identity” - we are closing in on 3 seasons and yet, the only identity is our inconsistancy.

When Fitzgibbon took the job he mentioned how excited he was with everything already in place - we all agreed that the Roster didn’t require a huge overhaul, so with that in mind it falls back to the Coaching Staff.

I will say this though, whether it is 3 years, 5 years or 10 years Cameron Ciraldo will coach the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks.
Can’t argue with any of that. The coach seems like and astute individual but maybe too green or not tough enough.
For all the praise the assistants get, I would turf Hannay - how he was up for the job at Parramatta just goes to show what slim pickings there are out there.
I like the last paragraph on Ciraldo - not sure the intel, but I’d run with it.
 

PJ

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Coaching is definitely the issue. Fitzgibbon has continually stated “We are trying to find our identity” - we are closing in on 3 seasons and yet, the only identity is our inconsistancy.

When Fitzgibbon took the job he mentioned how excited he was with everything already in place - we all agreed that the Roster didn’t require a huge overhaul, so with that in mind it falls back to the Coaching Staff.

I will say this though, whether it is 3 years, 5 years or 10 years Cameron Ciraldo will coach the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks.

I thought he didn't like the joint after leaving
 
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Coaching is definitely the issue. Fitzgibbon has continually stated “We are trying to find our identity” - we are closing in on 3 seasons and yet, the only identity is our inconsistancy.

When Fitzgibbon took the job he mentioned how excited he was with everything already in place - we all agreed that the Roster didn’t require a huge overhaul, so with that in mind it falls back to the Coaching Staff.

I will say this though, whether it is 3 years, 5 years or 10 years Cameron Ciraldo will coach the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks.
Has Fitz gone backwards ?

2022 - Top 4 straight out
2023 - home semi bottom 8 straight out
2024 - ?? If we finish 5-8 and straight out that's backwards to me, but there will be those who say we were in top 4, till injuries and that killed the season.
Have a look at Panthers and Storm and how many injuries to there spine, and players missing due to injury or rep footy, but they battle on
 

Cheese sandwich

First Grade
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Geez you blokes. Know who was in the top 8 last year? The Broncos, Warriors, Knights, and Raiders. There’s 4 coaches right there that should be sacked before Fitzy.
Amazing 3 of them are still coaches tbh. Sticky's 43 years in charge at Canberra have been mediocre, one looks like a pisshead and the other one must have lied on his CV or something
 
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It was only 9 months ago some of you lot wanted to suck Andrew Webster off. How’s that working out?
The Warriors never put back to back season together, no coincidence that SJ is there.
Everyone has doubted Walters one good season at Broncos
Knights it was Ponga and they resigned AOB, and no one was chasing him.
On Ricky that has to be the question why do the Raiders keep him, even Tallis was on about it, Ricky must be saying no coach will come here
 

Special K

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Teig's floor is Luke Garner. He has upside but I can't work out where he could land for a ceiling.

Nikora is 2 years older than Wilton and has 49 games more. At this stage of Nikora's career it would be mid 2022. I feel like Nikora has been one of our better players since his debut season.
 
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