Thanks & Well Done To Afl Posters In 2005

[Dean Moriarty]

Here you go, Kev - scroll down a bit. Statler is the one with the big chin, looks like his relatives are very proud of him.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/ostatlers.html

 

[CyberKev]

Here you go, Kev - scroll down a bit. Statler is the one with the big chin, looks like his relatives are very proud of him.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~statler/statler/ostatlers.html

Gold! :lol:

Great pick-up too!

 

[AuckMel]

Then you have been no where near Richmond fans at Collingwood games lol

I was warned about going near them very early on.

 

[Twizzle]

its was a hoot, we gotta do it again next year

and my tip

2006 will be the year of the CAT

meeeeeeoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

 

[meltiger]

its was a hoot, we gotta do it again next year

and my tip

2006 will be the year of the CAT

meeeeeeoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

Did Geelong finally find a key forward to bolster their forward line?


One without injury and heart problems ;-)


Would hate to say to all (Kev in particular) - I told you so ;-)

 

[Red Bear]

Cheers cyberkev, been great to have a fair few around here who know a shirtload more about the game and the games history than me.

 

[CyberKev]

Would hate to say to all (Kev in particular) - I told you so ;-)

I have to admit, Ottens looked a bit 'Troy Simmonds' over 2005, but time is still on his (and Geelong's) side...

 

[meltiger]

I have to admit, Ottens looked a bit 'Troy Simmonds' over 2005, but time is still on his (and Geelong's) side...

Richmond got more out of Simmo than Geelong did Ottens.


& regardless of what the ferals (Richmond supporters) around the traps say - Simmo was better than most seem to give him credit for and was scapegoated a lot of the time.


I'm happier with Simmo's 4 year contract than Ottens 500K a year deal, especially when you add young Patison into the mix.


Simmo has some ball handling skill issues which I am positive Wallace can coach out of him. Tell me, how do coach someone out of being a weak, gutless pansy?

 

[CyberKev]

Richmond got more out of Simmo than Geelong did Ottens.

Perhaps, but its akin to saying your cousin's burnt sienna Datsun 180B gets better fuel economy than your sister's boyfriend's lime green LH Torana when everyone involved is fantasising 24/7 about having a new pantom purple XR8 Falcon!

& regardless of what the ferals (Richmond supporters) around the traps say - Simmo was better than most seem to give him credit for and was scapegoated a lot of the time.

Feral Richmond supporters??? Surely not, I've never met a one!

I'm happier with Simmo's 4 year contract than Ottens 500K a year deal, especially when you add young Patison into the mix.

Sounds fair, as long as young Patto can take the next step.

Simmo has some ball handling skill issues which I am positive Wallace can coach out of him. Tell me, how do coach someone out of being a weak, gutless pansy?

Stop deluding yourself. Simmo turns 28 next year, and if he's got this far without rectifying handling problems, then he's stuck with them I'm afraid.

Poor old Brad, he's fell from a great height. From AFL best player elect, to certain Brownlow medallist if fit, to weak, gutless pansy in the space of a few short years

 

[CyberKev]

Cheers cyberkev, been great to have a fair few around here who know a shirtload more about the game and the games history than me.

Thanks, Old Son!

I pretend to know more than I really do, but that's what the Internet is for, after all

 

[Twizzle]

Did Geelong finally find a key forward to bolster their forward line?


One without injury and heart problems ;-)


Would hate to say to all (Kev in particular) - I told you so ;-)

yeh we had a few problems I thought, mainly with consistency, but we beat just about everyone

we got some good key forwards, although I think Playfair should be a follower rather than CHF, but he's still very young

I expected more from Ottens, I expect that was your reference to the heart problems

we are still a very young team, looking forward to seeing Nat Abblett a year on

bring on 2006, the year of the CAT

 

[meltiger]

Stop deluding yourself. Simmo turns 28 next year, and if he's got this far without rectifying handling problems, then he's stuck with them I'm afraid.

Given the coaches he has had ... I don't neccesarily agree.

Don't get me wrong - I don't expect Nathan Buckley type skills, just a slight improvement.

Poor old Brad, he's fell from a great height. From AFL best player elect, to certain Brownlow medallist if fit, to weak, gutless pansy in the space of a few short years

Always had the talent to be both. Still does. Never ever will be.

 

[meltiger]

we are still a very young team, looking forward to seeing Nat Abblett a year on

If he doesn't get spooked by the media attention - Looks to have the goods for sure.


Was good to see his Dad catch a few of his first games - That would have helped him.

 

[CyberKev]

Given the coaches he has had ... I don't neccesarily agree.

Don't get me wrong - I don't expect Nathan Buckley type skills, just a slight improvement.

But you're making the mistake of thinking its the head coach who deals with these things.

Every AFL club has specialist coaches to focus on player skill deficiencies, as the head coach is required to keep his head across a range of macro-level matters.

His flaws would have been identified almost from the get go and would have been worked on hard by numerous coaches over numerous years.

Its too late to turn it around now.

Always had the talent to be both. Still does. Never ever will be.

He doesn't have to be either for Geelong to do well. He just has to get on the park and kick 50-60 goals for a season for them to be a serious flag proposition.

 

[meltiger]

He doesn't have to be either for Geelong to do well. He just has to get on the park and kick 50-60 goals for a season for them to be a serious flag proposition.

50-60 goals? Won't happen. They would be better off concentrating on what they have.


With Simmo - I actually did mean the team Wallace has assembled. Look at the improvement the Dogs made under him skill wise in his first full year. I don't expect anything near that with Simmo. What I want is for them to bite the bullet and realise he is a ruckmen, leave him there, let him get some consistency and just get a moderate improvement on his skill level - He actually played fantastically in the ruck, it's when he went forward that we had problems.

Not too much to ask for mate.

(Even if he doesn't - I still think he can make an important contribution & that's where I'm not overly concerned)

 

[CyberKev]

With Simmo - I actually did mean the team Wallace has assembled. Look at the improvement the Dogs made under him skill wise in his first full year.

From memory he didn't make many changes at all, and it needs be remembered that the side had made 3 of the previous 4 finals series before the injury crisis of 1996 and did have a number of young players just coming into their own.

He actually played fantastically in the ruck, it's when he went forward that we had problems.

I think Simmo is quite good in the ruck. I said before you drafted him that he could boost the ruck division, but is painfully mediocre as a forward. Melbourne & Freo both found out as much, and Richmond is learning the same.

 

[meltiger]

I think Simmo is quite good in the ruck. I said before you drafted him that he could boost the ruck division, but is painfully mediocre as a forward. Melbourne & Freo both found out as much, and Richmond is learning the same.

Agree.

 

[meltiger]

From memory he didn't make many changes at all, and it needs be remembered that the side had made 3 of the previous 4 finals series before the injury crisis of 1996 and did have a number of young players just coming into their own.

That's right ... I forgot, Hawthorn people decided he cannot coach ... after he had signed up with Richmond........

He didn't make any changes to what?

With the Dogs - Their pre-season work was exceptionally skill-heavy & it showed.

At Richmond, he got rid of all the dud assistants and brought in his own people.

 

[CyberKev]

That's right ... I forgot, Hawthorn people decided he cannot coach ... after he had signed up with Richmond........

He can coach, but history suggests he is no superstar (yet, at least).

At Richmond, he got rid of all the dud assistants and brought in his own people.

The difference here was that he was starting afresh after years out of the game.

At the Bulldogs, he was part of a broader coaching unit already, and didn't have a problem with them (just Joycey).

 

[meltiger]

The difference here was that he was starting afresh after years out of the game.

At the Bulldogs, he was part of a broader coaching unit already, and didn't have a problem with them (just Joycey).

He brought at least 1 assistant over form his time at the Dogs helm and also brought in people like David King .... I think he's assembled a pretty good team.

(I loved the way King played the game - If he can instill even a fraction of the heart he had into the team we'll be a million times better for it)