The 2014/15 Off Season Thread

[Twizzle]

better than Turnbull can, although I have no doubt its got nothing to do with the future and everything to do with not spending

 

[Gronk]

You can predict future technologies and social trends, can you Gronk?

Yes mate. Only a few of us can do this type of thing. Marty McFly, Dr Who, those crazy merkins in the Hot Tub Time Machine, Charlton Heston in the original POTA movie, Superman, Bil & Ted (Excellent Adventure) - need I go on ? :roll:

 

[Gronk]

better than Turnbull can, although I have no doubt its got nothing to do with the future and everything to do with not spending

The Conservatives ideology is user pays.

So Turnbull is providing NBN to the end of your street. You then have the option to hook up via the dodgy copper wires installed in your street or you can cough up the cash to connect via optic fibre.

 

[Twizzle]

Will still only provide 5 bps rather then what we need, being 50 to 100 bps.

Waste of time really.

It will be about 1/10th of what the current 4G Telstra network provides.

 

[Gronk]

Will still only provide 5 bps rather then what we need, being 50 to 100 bps.

Waste of time really.

It will be about 1/10th of what the current 4G Telstra network provides.

Like building a 4 lane highway today and then widening it in 20 years time after years and years of gridlock traffic ?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Will still only provide 5 bps rather then what we need, being 50 to 100 bps.

Waste of time really.

It will be about 1/10th of what the current 4G Telstra network provides.

I've got an old modem from the 80s that will do 100bps.

You left out the 'M'.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

I see Turnbull trying to sell his pissweak NBN system to bring us up to date with last century.

Hell, he even got his mates to provide a cost analysis report that surprisingly back the Libs policies.

Its the NBN system that they want to pay for, not the system we need.

Isn't that the case with every spending initiative though?

As for whether we NEED the government to build an NBN system, my personal view is that market forces will decide what we do or don't need. I have a 100MBps connection now (well in the 'burbs), and there isn't likely to be any NBN action where I am for some time. I would really like to know who needs any more than that.

The one concession I will give is regional areas, where market forces will do diddly squat because there is no money in it for the telcos to do anything. But then again, after growing up in the sticks, I'd say that that's nothing new because its the same with a lot of things. Then again, my country friends may miss out of high speed internet, but they get nice fresh air, no traffic and surround themselves with friendlier people, so its a choice anyone can make.

 

[Gronk]

Surprise, surprise that Murdoch's newspapers and networks are anti NBN and are endorsing an inferior line speed.

I wonder why Murdoch would not want us to have high speed optic fibre internet ......:-k

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

You're such a cynic, Gronk. Rupert's made his billions and now I'm sure he just wants what's best for all of us. And rich people are clearly smarter than the rest of us, so I'm happy to trust their judgement.

 

[Gronk]

Still working, f**kers !

#gaza

 

[Gronk]

Reporter: "Mr Abbott, did you visit a cancer institute just to claim travel expenses?"
Abbott: "Look over there! Terrorism!!"

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The silence is deafening from Shorten & Abbott as yet another pollie bites the dust at NSW ICAC. It was put to both of these merkins that we should have a federal ICAC. Both suggested that the senate committees keep them honest.

<shakes head>

 

[The Elephant In The room]

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The silence is deafening from Shorten & Abbott as yet another pollie bites the dust at NSW ICAC. It was put to both of these merkins that we should have a federal ICAC. Both suggested that the senate committees keep them honest.

<shakes head>

You do wonder if all the "dirty" politicians gravitate to State politics, or whether the dirty federal politicians just get away with it. I know which one I have my money on.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

You do wonder if all the "dirty" politicians gravitate to State politics, or whether the dirty federal politicians just get away with it. I know which one I have my money on.

Part of the reason for concentration of scandals at the state (and local) levels is that these bodies have responsibility for most of the stuff that directly affects particular medium-level businesses / business people / criminals.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Part of the reason for concentration of scandals at the state (and local) levels is that these bodies have responsibility for most of the stuff that directly affects particular medium-level businesses / business people / criminals.

So basically you're saying that they might all be dirty scumbags, it's just easier to catch them at state and local level?

 

[Gronk]

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Why do we need a billion mbp/s NBN? So we can download shit quicker?

What other use do I have for something that fast?

The government shouldn't have to pay to put that to everyone's home. What a stupid f**king waste of money.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

How could that happen in this wonderful system we call democracy?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

So basically you're saying that they might all be dirty scumbags, it's just easier to catch them at state and local level?

Well, there is just more scope and incentive for brown paper bag stuff at the State level. So it's a matter opportunity as well as detection.

At the Fed level, the big guys just attend the party fundraisers etc, make relatively modest disclosed donations to the political parties, and invest heavily in lobbyists and other toerags. The 'corruption' that exists is usually more subtle (but possibly more damaging.....have a look at the scuppered financial planning reforms for a case in point).

 

[Gronk]

Why do we need a billion mbp/s NBN? So we can download shit quicker?

What other use do I have for something that fast?

The government shouldn't have to pay to put that to everyone's home. What a stupid f**king waste of money.

Exactly. Nothing wrong with rainwater tanks instead of town water, kerosene lamps and home schooling.

G'night Jim-Bob.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Well, there is just more scope and incentive for brown paper bag stuff at the State level. So it's a matter opportunity as well as detection.

At the Fed level, the big guys just attend the party fundraisers etc, make relatively modest disclosed donations to the political parties, and invest heavily in lobbyists and other toerags. The 'corruption' that exists is usually more subtle (but possibly more damaging.....have a look at the scuppered financial planning reforms for a case in point).

Thanks. I just had a look at a couple of news reports regarding that. Was very similar to a show by a couple of The Chaser guys I saw recently. But not good stuff.

I have to admit that I'm someone who gave up on politics many years ago. And finance and economics not only bores me to tears but does my head in. In short, I'm one of the guys who trusts that there are people like you out there who understand this stuff and have a conscience.