The 2014/15 Off Season Thread

[Poupou Escobar]

Can you deadshit merkins stop with the jingo?

Both parties (three if you include the Watermelons) make apparently stupid decisions because they are constrained by having to appease voters who, if they're not plain stupid, have competing interests within their own support base (e.g. the LNP's urban capitalists vs rural bumpkins, and Labor's latte sippers vs unionists/welfare parasites).

 

[The EELiminator]

Can you deadshit merkins stop with the jingo?

Both parties (three if you include the Watermelons) make apparently stupid decisions because they are constrained by having to appease voters who, if they're not plain stupid, have competing interests within their own support base (e.g. the LNP's urban capitalists vs rural bumpkins, and Labor's latte sippers vs unionists/welfare parasites).

its not the voters they have to appease its their mates in the senate that they have to suck up to in order to get the votes to pass anything for labor its the greens and for liberal its clive palmer

 

[Gronk]

its not the voters they have to appease its their mates in the senate that they have to suck up to in order to get the votes to pass anything for labor its the greens and for liberal its clive palmer

Correct. They all sell themselves to the devil just to get watered down promises through. Labor did the same with the Greens.

Abbott promises pre-election to deliver a meat pie.

After 3 months the senate passes a chicken pie. Oh and it's going to be cold too. In fact it might be frozen until 2017.

Abbott, Hockey n Co do a "in your face labor" dance. \\\\/

Abbott says "see, we deliver on our promises."

Media says, hold on you said meat pie. It's chicken.

Yeah chicken is meat Tony says.

Tony says that he won't get in to a game of semantics.

Etc etc etc :crazy:

 

[Bigfella]

I like the analogy.

Where does Clive Palmer come into it?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

If idiots would stop voting for minor parties like the Greens and PUP we might get an effective government. But if government is going to be ineffective (and to be honest that's probably best) then they need to stay out of the way.

 

[The Colonel]

I like the analogy.

Where does Clive Palmer come into it?

Have you seen the size of him? He obviously got the pie....

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

If idiots would stop voting for minor parties like the Greens and PUP we might get an effective government. But if government is going to be ineffective (and to be honest that's probably best) then they need to stay out of the way.

You could have just stopped at the end of the bolded section of the quote.

 

[strider]

re: super conribution rate .... what do people expect would happen? - companies suddenly fork out bucketloads more to their employees? Where was it all going to come from? Any upfront payrises get eaten up by super rises? would people be content to lose cash in the hand now so their super rises? I doubt it. Will companies just give everyone more in super and the usual pay rises? I doubt it.

I know my employer said they would cover the first 1% rise but would re-assess after that.

 

[Delboy]

Most companies work on a package system, so the super is deducted from the overall number, if you want to see the extra contribution , it can be salary sacrificed without the company having pressure on their wage bill

 

[Gary Gutful]

You could have just stopped at the end of the bolded section of the quote.

In fairness, the word 'for' is pretty important.

#ShouldHaveBeenBolded

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

- why are we giving mining companies fuel tax rebates, yet increasing fuel tax for everyone else (yes only a small increase on fuel costs but let's be fair)

This one is because the miners drive on roads they built themselves, and pay to maintain themselves.

The fuel excise exists to give governments money to rebuild roads (at least theoretically). So, if the miners pay for and maintain their own roads, they should not have to pay the fuel excise.

As such, it gets rebated to them.

To ensue the super contributions , that insipid leader Shorten just had to vote to abandon the mining tax which was doing zilch and then the issue would not have occurred. Shorten and Plibasek are typical mean spirited lefty loonies who are lurching the Labour Party towardsthe union movement not the nation.

Labor played themselves out of the game. They can whinge and bitch all they like but if they leave it to Palmer to negotiate then they won't get the concessions they want.

But they don't want Abbott to pass anything so they'll block as much as they can and cry about it, despite the fact that they could probably have negotiated a better compromise.

If Labor wants to play that way then f**k 'em.

 

[yy_cheng]

Does it reduce their payroll tax if companies contribute more to super

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Does it reduce their payroll tax if companies contribute more to super

Not that I'm aware of. Payroll tax is levied at state level, and the states are unlikely to risk their revenue streams. In NSW super contributions are subject to payroll tax.

On the broader issue, ad hoc friggin around with the mandatory super contribution levels (partic. in a downward sense) is very poor policy, regardless of which political party people want to blame for that.....and should be seen as such.

 

[Gronk]

Patrick Avenell ‏@Patrickavenell 17m The new Foxtel HD channels will be available from 3 November 2014. Looking forward to Jeopardy! in HD and a fourth Fox Sports channel!

https://twitter.com/Patrickavenell

Patrick Avenell ‏@Patrickavenell 16m

Nine new HD channels are coming to Foxtel: Arena, Universal,13th Street, History, World Movies, FSN, Eurosport, Fox Sports 4, BoxSets.

You'd think that this would be a perfect time to lock in a dedicated NRL channel ?

 

[Gronk]

[URL="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsNews"]FOX SPORTS News ‏@FOXSportsNews

29m

[/URL]Fox Sports News in HD? Yes please!!! @Foxtel unveil us as one of 36 channels to move to HD from November 3 #FSNHD

 

[forward pass]

I don't have HD on Fox. I pay enough money to those bastards already with out paying more for HD.

 

[broncos2010]

You'd think that this would be a perfect time to lock in a dedicated NRL channel ?

You can hardly tell the difference between HD and normal.

 

[Gronk]

You can hardly tell the difference between HD and normal.

Bullshit.

 

[forward pass]

You can hardly tell the difference between HD and normal.

Bullshit.

Troll is correct if he doesn't have a HD TV.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Foxtel has cut their prices, I think you can now get sport channels along with the basic channels for $50 a month