The Aussie Media trying to ruin another career?

[TheParraboy]

Just watching the SL vs NZ game today and Muralis action is so much worse than Johan Botha.

Young cricketers coming into the game now, they wont get away with it like Murali has.

 

[salivor]

Young cricketers coming into the game now, they wont get away with it like Murali has.

Unfortunately I think it's just going to get worse. Because of the new 15% rule I know the NZ cricket acadamy now encourage unsual actions and for bowlers to experiment, I'm sure their not the only country doing it, thanks Murali :thumn

 

[sanjane]

I couldn't care less what Bruce Elliot thinks he's proved. What he MAY have proven is, in a controlled "you're being tested" condition he CAN bowl the ball and not chuck it.

The thing that gets me is "he's got a genetic birth defect in the elbow which means he can't straighten it", BS, you watch him on the boundary warming up he can straighten, twist it, make you party hats if you asked him to.

However, its becoming blatantly obvious when he's on the pitch that the doosra is a chuck. Nothing surer. He should be representing Sri Lanka at the Gay Olympics in shot putting... except your country wouldn't allow it obviously.

and the cricket ball isn't a shot put,
and murali doesn't throw,
and i'd rather believe someone who knows what he's talking abt in regards to the straigthening thingy,
and murali is happily married to yes, OMG, a FEMALE!!!

Ban him for that too!

 

[sanjane]

Journalists aren't contracted under the ICC and are free to express their opinion. You should be thankful you live in a country that allows it's media to have those sorts of freedoms. To suggest gagging the press is about as archaic as criminalising homosexuality.



How was Jermaine Lawson reported in SL? like this:

Lawson reported for suspect action
Cricinfo staff
July 17, 2005

West Indies bowler Jermaine Lawson has been reported for a suspect bowling action, the ICC confirmed on Sunday. Lawson's action was called into question by the match officials after the first Test against Sri Lanka in Colombo, and they immediately reported him.

The report was submitted by the umpires Simon Taufel, Nadeem Ghauri, third umpire Peter Manuel and fourth official Ranmore Martinez who were concerned about the angle of Lawson's elbow.

"The match officials had concerns with potential elbow flexation when viewing the bowler's action with the naked eye," explained the ICC match referee, Mike Procter. "This assessment has led the team of officials to request the ICC to commission a biomechanical report into the bowler's action in accordance with the new process introduced earlier this year."

In accordance with the ICC's recently revised bowling review process, Lawson's action will now be analysed by a human movement specialist at the ICC within the next three weeks. Video tapes of the match will also be submitted for analysis. After the analysis is completed, the biomechanical expert will report back to the ICC, confirming if the action is legal. Lawson will be free to play international cricket in the meantime.

http://content.cricinfo.com/slvwi/content/story/213603.html

You really should research things before you open your mouth with such racial hatred towards a country. So Lawson was reported in your own country Sri Lanka. Don't get caught up in the media campaign rubbish, you obviously have no idea how these reports happen, it is purely down to the match officials, thats the 2 umpires, the 4th umpire and match referee, the media has nothing to do with it.



This is what you said at the start of the thread:

You have absolutely no problem with his action so why would you want it looked into? You've stated you just think it's a media beat up, you have absolutely no respect for the integrity of the game to want officials and journalists to sweep this issue under the carpet and pretend it doesn't exist.

We all know why Sanjane, you couldn't give too hoots about Botha or Lawson or any other bowler called. In your petty little mind you know that the more that keep getting called, the more this issue builds the more chance it has of coming back to Murali. Just admit it once and for all that you would love nothing more than to have the whole chucking issue go away? You couldn't give a toss about the reprecussions of that which would see bowling actions generate into an absolute farce.

Dude, I know that Lawson was reported a 2nd time in SL. I meant "How was he reported" i.e. What PROCEDURE occurred when he was reported.

He bowled his overs, nobody said a thing, the umps looked at it, the match referee looked at it and found it suspect, and so reported him. That's the way it SHOULD happen, not as the result of a petty media campaign.

Sorry for obviously misleading you in regards to what I said.

I have no prob with Botha's action, but if the umps do, then yes, the ICC should look at it. But again, not because of pressure from a journo or three.

And also, YES, Obviously I want the chucking issue to go away, in regards to Murali.

Coz, in history, it may well tarnish the value of arguably the best spinner ever in the younger generations' eyes.

And that wasn't too hard to admit....

 

[TheParraboy]

and murali is happily married to yes, OMG, a FEMALE!!!

To a lovely Indian girl I hear, married in India too, intereting how they met, was it an arranged marriage ?

Coz, in history, it may well tarnish the value of arguably the best spinner ever in the younger generations' eyes.

in Sri Lanka, definately. From seeing what their government is like, the poor people would probably be executed if they dare follow another.

In most other nations, there will always be that tarnish, video technology archives will prove it , time and time again

 

[Iafeta]

and the cricket ball isn't a shot put,
and murali doesn't throw,
and i'd rather believe someone who knows what he's talking abt in regards to the straigthening thingy,
and murali is happily married to yes, OMG, a FEMALE!!!

Ban him for that too!

I'm sorry, you must have missed the matches where he was called for throwing.

Watch the upcoming commonwealth Games shotputting, and see if you can decipher any difference between Murilitharan, Murilidaran, Muralitharan or whatever he wants to be called this month. There is none. The action of shot putting is to jerk your arm out from a bent position to a straight one to propel the shot put. Much the same way Murilitharan bowls.

You'd rather believe someone who knows what he's talking about in regards to the straighening thingy? Are you blind? Or did you conveniently go for your tea drinking break when he was on the boundary preforming all sorts of minor miracles with his right arm for a man with a genetic birth defect. It was a miracle alright, the dexterity was amazing.

Murali is a pie chucker, Botha, Harbhajan, Shabbir and all the others that are called or deemed suspect should consider themselves damn unlucky considering the ceylonese tea drinking shot putter gets away with it, because now umpires need a protractor on the field to measure 15 degrees. He can do it in a controlled situation under laboratory testing, but it sure looks different when he knows he's not under any scrutiny.

 

[fish eel]

I cant be phucked reading all this, I've been on holidays.

Was Botha reported? That cant be right can it, because I thought only bowlers from the sub continent were reported because the system was racist and secondly,

I wonder what Ian Meckiff would think of all this......

 

[sanjane]

I'm sorry, you must have missed the matches where he was called for throwing.

Watch the upcoming commonwealth Games shotputting, and see if you can decipher any difference between Murilitharan, Murilidaran, Muralitharan or whatever he wants to be called this month. There is none. The action of shot putting is to jerk your arm out from a bent position to a straight one to propel the shot put. Much the same way Murilitharan bowls.

You'd rather believe someone who knows what he's talking about in regards to the straighening thingy? Are you blind? Or did you conveniently go for your tea drinking break when he was on the boundary preforming all sorts of minor miracles with his right arm for a man with a genetic birth defect. It was a miracle alright, the dexterity was amazing.

Murali is a pie chucker, Botha, Harbhajan, Shabbir and all the others that are called or deemed suspect should consider themselves damn unlucky considering the ceylonese tea drinking shot putter gets away with it, because now umpires need a protractor on the field to measure 15 degrees. He can do it in a controlled situation under laboratory testing, but it sure looks different when he knows he's not under any scrutiny.

says a guy under the alias Iafeta..

We should ALL believe him!

 

[sanjane]

To a lovely Indian girl I hear, married in India too, intereting how they met, was it an arranged marriage ?





in Sri Lanka, definately. From seeing what their government is like, the poor people would probably be executed if they dare follow another.

In most other nations, there will always be that tarnish, video technology archives will prove it , time and time again

yes, it was arranged though family and friends.

 

[El Diablo]

how romantic

 

[gregstar]

who will sanejane be arranged to marry?
reinhardt heidrich with a bent arm?

 

[Iafeta]

says a guy under the alias Iafeta..

We should ALL believe him!

Greaet retory. You knocked apart every one of my points. Wow, I wish you were around in my high school years to lead my debate team.

Dumbar$e, its quite ironic you don't even know Iafeta is posting on a league forum...

 

[PB]

Unfortunately I think it's just going to get worse. Because of the new 15% rule I know the NZ cricket acadamy now encourage unsual actions and for bowlers to experiment, I'm sure their not the only country doing it, thanks Murali :thumn

I wouldnt be encouraging too many bowlers to doctore their arm action.

i wouldn't be suprised to see the 15" degree rule changed, or moved back to about 5" degrees, within 12 months of Murali retiring.:roll:

 

[El Diablo]

who will sanejane be arranged to marry?
reinhardt heidrich with a bent arm?

The Big Unit Randy Johnson

Quite a hunk

 

[Iafeta]

Similar bowling action to Murali too...

 

[El Diablo]

very

 

[salivor]

Dude, I know that Lawson was reported a 2nd time in SL. I meant "How was he reported" i.e. What PROCEDURE occurred when he was reported.

He bowled his overs, nobody said a thing, the umps looked at it, the match referee looked at it and found it suspect, and so reported him. That's the way it SHOULD happen, not as the result of a petty media campaign.

Sorry for obviously misleading you in regards to what I said.

The procedure was in EVERY case that we have mentioned is that the umpires have reported the incident to the ICC to look into further. At no point have the media been involved in this procedure. If you call a couple of articles over botha a media campaign and if you think umpires and match officials from the elite panel only call a player when they read about it in the paper then you've got less intelligence than the little that I previously gave you credit for.

Again the media aren't contracted to the ICC so therefore there are no restraints to what they can publish as long as it is within the law. We live in a free society where open discussion on such issues should be encouraged, not swept under the rug.

I have no prob with Botha's action, but if the umps do, then yes, the ICC should look at it. But again, not because of pressure from a journo or three.

I hate to break it to you but the ONLY people who can report a players action are the umpires and match officials, the media play no part in it at all. They can write as much as they like but not do a damn thing unless an umpire decides to report a player. Look at players such as Brett Lee and Kyle Mills, the media have at times brought their actions into question as potential chuckers yet they haven't been reported. You media campaign cries are just another way of looking for a scapegoat.

And also, YES, Obviously I want the chucking issue to go away, in regards to Murali.

Coz, in history, it may well tarnish the value of arguably the best spinner ever in the younger generations' eyes.

And that wasn't too hard to admit....

The younger generations eyes? Do you have any idea what damage Murali and his band of chuckers are doing to the game in the younger generation? As I've stated earlier, because of this ludicrous 15% law the NZ cricket acadamy now openly encourage unusual actions where in previous times they would've worked with the bowler to correct their technique. The more the ICC just try to make it go away the worse it's going to get when a whole new generation of cricketers with extremly dodgy actions come through the ranks, it'll degenerate into a bloody circus.

 

[fish eel]

He bowled his overs, nobody said a thing, the umps looked at it, the match referee looked at it and found it suspect, and so reported him. That's the way it SHOULD happen, not as the result of a petty media campaign.

I have no prob with Botha's action, but if the umps do, then yes, the ICC should look at it. But again, not because of pressure from a journo or three.

Like the same petty media campaign that saw Ian Meckiff publicly humiliated and driven out of cricket?

The chucking controversies have been around cricket forever, and always will be.

Its just a joke that in the modern game players can come all the way through to international level before they get pinged for a dodgy action

 

[El Diablo]

talking of media. what about your Sri Lankan mob?

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/srilanka/content/story/134508.html

Sri Lanka express concerns over Broad

Wisden Cricinfo staff

Sri Lankan cricket authorities have confirmed that they have written to the ICC expressing concern over the conduct of Chris Broad, the match referee for the recent series against Australia.

According to the state-run Sunday Observer, Broad was allegedly found "boozing with Australian cricketers during the February-March series, which Sri Lanka Cricket claimed is gross misconduct in breach of the ICC rules".

Broad, the former England opener, was in charge for the series and reported Muttiah Muralitharan's action to the ICC, claiming that it was suspect.

Mohan de Silva, the board president, insisted that the letter was an informal way of making the ICC aware of its feelings on the matter. "We have brought to the notice of the ICC his [Broad's] general conduct," de Silva said on Sunday. "It is not a formal protest or a complaint, but a letter to keep the ICC informed. We feel it is part of our responsibility."

Meanwhile, Bruce Elliott's biomechanics team at the University of Western Australia has concluded that Muralitharan should be allowed to continue using his doosra until the completion of further biomechanical research into slow bowling.

© Cricinfo

then this about face

Sri Lanka board denies reporting Broad

Charlie Austin

April 26, 2004

Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) have denied reporting match referee Chris Broad to the ICC for "boozing" with Australia's players during the recent series. Mohan de Silva, the president of SLC, claims that he was misquoted by a reporter from the state-run Sunday Observer newspaper.

In an open letter to the journalist, de Silva said: "I have noted that you by error have made a reference to me with regards to the claim that match referee Chris Broad was found boozing with the Australian players. I wish to state that at no time did I confirm this story and neither has Sri Lanka Cricket reported any incident involving Mr. Broad and Australian players to the ICC. As such it is clear that I have been misquoted in the said story."

De Silva's comments follow a terse statement from the ICC last week: "The allegations attributed to Sri Lanka Cricket are serious and significant yet there is not one piece of evidence offered to support them," said Malcolm Speed, the ICC's chief executive. "There are no specifics - no places, no dates, no times - and it is disappointing that a national board would elect to make disparaging comments about an ICC match official without providing any material to support these comments.

The newspaper allegations came within the context of Broad's reporting of Muttiah Muralitharan's doosra, a decision that promoted outrage and charges of racial bias in some quarters, but was later justified as biomechanical tests showed that Muralitharan's arm straightened by double the legal limit.

Sri Lanka Cricket has faced increasing criticism for its handling of the issue, including the treatment of Broad and the partial leaking of the Muralitharan report to the Sunday Times newspaper, which forced the ICC into making a statement on Muralitharan's doosra even before receiving the official report.

© Cricinfo

disgraceful media campaign against Australia and a match referee

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/134720.html

 

[Preniers]

Just about every article written abt Murali in the aussie press, has the words "the controversial off-spinner".

Yer, your right actually, he's not contreversial which explains why you have made about 50 threads about him and the only time I see you post its about him. Trully, you dumbf**k of the highest quality.

Oh and as to you comments about the media questioning the integrity, what would you like written for ezampple when Ponting had score bout 11 runs in 3 games in India averageing bout 2? Is this it: ???

"Ricky Ponting is in possibly the best form of his career after averaging a great 2 and a half on the recent tour of India, he truley troubled very good bowlers with his wonderful strokeplay which brought about 11 brilliant invaluable runs from his 5 innings. Trully this is a man at his peak"

Is that what you want, or on the Zimbawe issue would you like to hear:

"The Zimbawe Cricket Board (ZCB) is eing hailed today as the greatest organisation around after disputing once again with players, after there ranking in World Crickket has been ranked a very high 10 out of 10 test playing nations by some followers and knowledgeable viewers of the game. The ZCB has hhe state of the game completey under control"


Is that what you want, because telling the truth would hurt the integrity of Ricky Ponting in the first one and the ZCB in the second. Cos thats what you say you want, your a f**king tooser, juss like Murali.