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The consequences of a successful Storm legal challenge

alexwilliams_66692007

alexwilliams_66692007

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If the Storm are succesful and get they're points back and their premierships back or whatever, we might aswell give the Bulldogs their points back and the 2002 minor premiership for f*** sake.

It'll be a bloody joke if Melbourne Storm contest against the NRL and win. They deserved everything that they got.
 
Paullyboy

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Brutus said:
The Storm are probably entitled to them as much as the Raiders were entitled to their 1990 premiership.

http://www.rl1908.com/Clubs/Canberra-Raiders.htm
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Not at all. The Storm intentionally cheated the cap in order to win their premiership.

The Raiders were victims of their own success in that they had way more origin representatives in 1990 then would have ever been considered at the time. As a result of the representative player bonuses, the Raiders went over the cap. They would not have been over the cap if so many players weren't picked for origin that year.

Very different situations.
 
Magpies Forever

Magpies Forever

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I do think there is a problem with the salary cap and how things end up being captured in it / categorised.

eg as I understand it a player selected for rep duty (either ARL / SOO / City v Country) gets paid bonus on top of their 'regular' contract but that premium / bonus payment is captured in the clubs salary cap which does bring more than a few clubs unstuck after gaining the positives of good player performance in having them selected in the rep teams.

Maybe a better way is all players be paid a base salary and its then layered eg rep pay is paid by the rep bodies and not included in clubs salary cap but on top of the base salary the club has to detail 'special / rep' players what premium wage on top of base salary they pay to attract and retain their services.

So a contract could be described in

$70k base salary
$150 premium salary
$XXX fringe benefits allowed
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Total $220k

any rep duty payments are not included in the clubs salary cap but any incentives eg presents / gifts have to be detailed and FBT paid on it by the player- not the club.

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DC_fan

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My cocnern with the Storm is that come the end of the season they have put enough wins together that in normal circumstances would have got them in the playoffs, will they go to court to enable them to play in the finals?

If they do this could cause a lot of problems for the NRL and delay the start of the playoffs.
 
Medievalknight

Medievalknight

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Stormroolz said:
Weel win for shore? Those premeirships are hours and them cant take that away never. This hole thing is a NSW thing against us. Talk about unfare, we were bullyed into accenting thos ridiculous punichments. Justis will prevale.
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English mark out of ten ??????????....:crazy:
 
LESStar58

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This is just getting ricockulous...

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/risks-for-news-in-storm-dispute-20100518-vc9n.html

They claim NRL boss David Gallop, a former News lawyer, did not follow NRL procedures in penalising Storm for its salary cap rorts. The matter will be heard in the Victorian Supreme court on Friday.

If the directors are successful, the court could stand down the NRL's decision to strip Melbourne of premierships and points and order that the league start its disciplinary process again.
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So if we are succesful we get the process to start again with, more than likely, the same result. It's bullsh*t and a waste of time. Again, I'm not sure what defense or argument they could possibly come up with! I just wish Moodie and co. would drop it!
 
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siv

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The Storm need to

- prove that the Salary Cap is a illegal restrant of trade

Then anything they did to cheat the illegal Salary Cap would be null and void

And so would all of the sanctions that resulted (eg Titles and 2010 points)
 
Magpies Forever

Magpies Forever

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siv said:
The Storm need to

- prove that the Salary Cap is a illegal restrant of trade

Then anything they did to cheat the illegal Salary Cap would be null and void

And so would all of the sanctions that resulted (eg Titles and 2010 points)
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So tear down and wreck the competition just so they can get some weird form of vindication that they have never wanted to be part of the 'collective' decison making process and taking the limitations of the collective decisions as well as the rewards and promotions?

Wrecking the salary cap will just f**k the competition. Superleague all over again- the club would seem to be rotten through- unrepentent and unwilling to even admit wrongdoing.

Melbourne wants to stand apart? OK then. If that is what they're after may as well just kick the club out now, deregister every player, player manager, coaching staff and official involved or suspected of involvement. If Storm want a fight to the finish may as make the lawyers and courts earn their time and money- let the lot of them, all of them, fight to gain re-admission if they want it. The rugby league is bigger than any one club.
 
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Jatz Crackers

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siv said:
The Storm need to

- prove that the Salary Cap is a illegal restrant of trade
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Nope. If the storm wanted to do that then their application would be based around that. It isnt. It is based on their view that there was a breach of procedural fairness.
 
The EELiminator

The EELiminator

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Jatz Crackers said:
Nope. If the storm wanted to do that then their application would be based around that. It isnt. It is based on their view that there was a breach of procedural fairness.
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maybe there was but them taking the nrl to court for that breach doesn't alter the fact that they broke the law for 5 years no less! now maybe they can get an injunction to play for points and the titles restored but their joy will be shortlived
now that the lawyers have come out imagine what the nrl could take them to court for
 
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