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The damage done

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by DragonInTheInnerWest, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. DragonInTheInnerWest

    DragonInTheInnerWest Juniors

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    Hooper hit the nail on the head on 360 ... The coach is too soft on senior players and lacks faith in the youngsters. His position has become untenable through sheer weight of poor results and lack of answers. That doesn't necessarily mean the club will make this change now and even if it does, won't result in vastly improved performances. A complete overhaul is required – something that was deferred after the Bennett years – but do Saints have the stomach for it? Arguably this has gone unaddressed since leaders like Hornby, Young, Morris, Gasnier and Cooper all departed between 2011 and 2014 and Creagh soon after.

    McGregor's inability to bring on young talent is his biggest weakness and it's become debilitating. Aitken, Lawrie, Dufty and Host are examples of junior stars who were better players when they hit first grade than they are now. Robson, Field, Herbert and Garrick are some of the lost talent constantly overlooked for game time in losing teams that the coach refused to change. Lomax and Kerr are now in the 'trust grinder' and along with Saab – Lovodua, Ford and Sailor will be the next bracket looking elsewhere.

    The club's board and football department are even more indictable. Too much pussyfooting around with reviews that were never designed to address real problems but mainly provide lip-service to fans. They even took the coach's job off the table during the latest charade. While showing faith in McGregor the club has passed on opportunities to sign Demetriou, Hasler, Maguire, O'Brien and Holbrook. That's a lot of short-sighted – and unaccountable – business decisions. The board's view of O'Brien as 'not ready' says it all.

    If McGregor was the long-term solution then why did the club offer his position previously to Ivan Cleary and Tony Smith before being met with knock-backs? It's fair for the full scorn of fans to be directed at the board now. Some always had reservations about the WIN ownership buy-in. The deal took an age to get done because the company essentially low-balled Saints until the club became desperate. Negotiations, if you can call them that were all one-way traffic. Not a good starting point. Aside from debt-clearing, WIN's involvement to date has been underwhelming.

    Don't buy that the club cannot afford to write the coach a redundancy cheque. At any level with an operating budget of something like $15m this does not make any sense. The WIN media empire is probably bleeding Covid cash but it's more the case they don't want to or feel they shouldn't have to pay the coach out and hire another. This would also require the board to take ownership of years of inertia through poor planning and decision-making.

    The club is careering head-long towards a first-ever wooden spoon. It's fair to say we are the worst side in the comp by a distance with little up-side for improvement. Unthinkable. As per Hooper's diagnosis, it is a terminal position for a coach's future to fluctuate in weekly media discussions, a situation that never helps faltering teams find form.

    The Dragons are in a shocking mess. In 43 years following the club I have never been so bereft of hope. Never worried too much about the club's future previously but there are genuine fears now considering a sclerotic management continually crying poor which eschews best business practice in favour of an insular, virtually paranoid style of governance.

    There were times when St George were non-competitive in the late 80's and we also dealt with a fair bit of tumult in the mid-90's through Super League. Yet Saints have made Grand Finals with lesser squads than this one. It's fair to say the team is not too different to the one that slaughtered Brisbane at Suncorp in a semi final two years ago – a victory on par with any of the club's best wins. Sadly that was a false dawn and the football since has gone off a cliff.

    Maybe the biggest indictment on the current head coach is the style of football his teams play. Boring, passion-less, predictable, unimaginative and un-inspired – even when winning. The team lacks discipline, skill and composure. Sadly, it was all too similar under Steve Price. This has become our trademark.

    No matter how the club has performed in the past, it always found players who wanted to pull on the jumper. Players who gave us excitement and hope and coaches who inspired ... no longer the case. Not much will be immediately solved with the removal of the coach but it's a start. Don't care about premierships or (the relative and overused term) 'success'. We already waited 32 years for that so we cannot be accused of fair-weathered-ness ... but for the most part that was a hell of an exciting ride with much to be proud of along the journey. This has been a lost decade. The damage is done. Loyal supporters have lost feeling for the club.
     
  2. SIR LANCELOT

    SIR LANCELOT Juniors

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    Excellent post Inner West Dragon. You said it all and I must back you up. It is a sad indictment of the way this club is progressing. Mary and a few others have to go. A new broom cleanout re officials and players also. BUT who will replace them. Does this club have the guts and willingness to proceed. I think not. This situation cannot continue. It is Grave in more ways than one.
    Lancelot
     
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  3. jak

    jak Juniors

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    great post mate,only your 7th post and you have said it all
     
  4. VodkaSaint

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    you said it, (loyal Fans Loosing feelings) I was hoping we dont score points and even hoping we dont next week or the week after, hell I hope the players slacken of and take a massive beating till the message gets through .
     
  5. hewi

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    I have never been as happy watching our team get defeated as yesterday and as stated above will continue until there is change not only in the head coach but also I want to see Craig and Dean Young gone plus Millward. No more jobs for the old boys.
     
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    Mods, please merge. /s
     
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  7. hazzbeen

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    Said before G Young is a dinosaur and needs to be gone as well , far away from the coaching ....
     
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  8. matPORTS

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    Great summary of the current predicament we find ourselves in. The true rusted on supporters have lost all feeling and emotion towards the club as a direct result of what those running the joint have done.

    #makestgeorgegreatagain
     
  9. BBTB

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    Well said.... Sounds like your on the money. This so called
    Management team, that run a Club, have taken us for ride... Straight to the bottom
    of the competition.
    They are incompetent, & misleading....
    And should be dismissed immediately.... Along with McGregor...
     
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  10. Generalzod

    Generalzod Referee

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    Overhaul??? wasnt that Gus Gould's job.
     
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    merahputih Juniors

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    Great post and summation of our plight.
     
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  12. Gareth67

    Gareth67 First Grade

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    Yes indeed bud , you have hit the nail right on the head and that is where the WIN Corporation can go as far as I am concerned .

    A copy of your post should be sent to those beggars and also the St.George Illawarra Joint Venture offices . You could signed it as one of many very concerned members whom have had a gut-full of mismanagement and the total dismantling of what was once the pride of the league .
     
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  13. getsmarty

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    CLUB NEWS


    Dragons statement: Paul McGregor
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    Dragons.com.au dragons.com.au
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    Tue 9 Jun 2020, 12:42 PM

    St George Illawarra can confirm the club's Board of Directors convened on Tuesday morning to discuss the future of coach Paul McGregor, following the Dragons' poor start to the 2020 season.

    The Dragons' board have confirmed McGregor will continue on as St George Illawarra coach.

    "Although the board acknowledges the club's performances so far throughout 2020 have been unacceptable; we will continue to support Paul, his staff and the team through these tough times," Dragons Chairman Andrew Gordon said.

    "We are committed to Paul as coach of the St George Illawarra Dragons and look forward to seeing him right the wrongs of the opening month of the current campaign.

    "We are a club that stands by our people when under pressure. This is a time for loyalty, strength and commitment from the players, coach, board and staff to improve."

    The Dragons will be making no further comment regarding McGregor at this stage.


    https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2020/06/09/dragons-statement-paul-mcgregor/
     
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  14. S.T.G

    S.T.G Juniors

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    Our Club is finished
    Retire the St George Dragons name
    And call these losers the
    Illawarra Steelers
    I have never been so embarrassed in my life.
    Now we know why Brian Johnson left !
     
  15. citizen

    citizen Juniors

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    Would this letter be deemed as full support of the board?

    Darkest day in our history
     
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  16. Dennis Papaioannou

    Dennis Papaioannou Bench

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    Not surprising at all.
    Stuck with McGregor through 2 extensions and diabolical capitulations, season after season.
    Didn't sack him at the end of 2019 when we ran second last so why not persevere this year as well?
    Mind numbing disregard for the fan base under the guise of loyalty to the club's "people" (so what are the Fans?).
    Mates before the interests of the Club seems to be the new owners' mantra.
    Oh how far the Mighty Saints have fallen.
    The army of champions that have graced this club over the years must be turning in their graves.
    What a shame...
     
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  17. J.moz

    J.moz Juniors

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    Conspiracy with the owners win dragging the st.george brand down with the steelers. No longer are steelers part of the merger now they sold out to wincorp. St george should stand alone and move in a new direction .
     
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  18. hazzbeen

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    Yep divorce her now .....
     
  19. Jersey No 14

    Jersey No 14 Juniors

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    I dare them - Management, Mary and who ever else want to join in
    To
    Face us in the Taj auditorium.

    I wait their reply
     
  20. dragons girl

    dragons girl Juniors

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    Thought for sure that this misery was coming to an end.,but alas nothing has changed.The board is not going to sack him.Will make them look foolish for extending his contract.This mess will now go on for years,when a new coach is finally appointed,he will want his own roster,more rebuilding more years waiting for success.
     

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