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The Fibros and the Silvertails

innsaneink

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http://www.sydneyfilmfestival.org/film_details.asp?id=71&fID=189

WORLD PREMIERE

What starts out as the story of a late-70s feud between two football teams, Wests and Manly, turns into a film about class and corruption. A new coach, Roy Masters, has just taken over at Wests and he's brought something new to the sport - the language of class war. He coins a phrase - Fibros vs. Silvertails - to describe the struggle of working class Wests against the elite of the city's northern and eastern suburbs. In contrast to Wests, Manly are a winning and wealthy club. The 1978 rugby league season is at the heart of this documentary, when violence on the field, controversial refereeing decisions and clashes outside the game were commonplace. This is social history, sports history and political essay all in rolled into one.



Jessica Halloran
June 5, 2007

http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/childhood-memory-of-class-war-on-the-ball/2007/06/04/1180809427077.html


AS A 10-year-old, Paul Oliver remembers clutching his rosary beads and listening to the violent clashes of Wests and Manly rugby league teams on the radio. He recalls jaws being broken and ambulances screaming away from the football field during that violent season of 1978.
Mostly he remembers the hate between the "Fibros" and "Silvertails". But were all his western suburbs childhood memories true?
To check his recollections, Oliver decided to interview those at the centre of rugby league's class war. The result of his research is The Fibros and Silvertails, which has been the fastest-selling film at the Sydney Film Festival. Due to popular demand, a second screening has been scheduled.
The former Wests footballer Tommy Raudonikis was at the centre of the biff and blood on the field. He said he knew why people were flocking to the film today.
"It's because people love a battler," Raudonikis said. "People love battling teams. The Silvertails, they lived by the seaside listened to the surf coming in, and we, the Fibros, listened to heavy machinery. That's what people liked about the western suburbs. I'm proud of that era."
Oliver, who narrates the documentary, said the violence, tribalism and heartbreak of that time come through in the words of the former footballers and coaches. The Magpies fan spoke to a number of players, including the former Wests coach Roy Masters and the Manly captain Max Krilich.
"Even after all this time the division is still there," Oliver said.
"I really wanted to test my childhood memories. It seemed to be an intense and controversial time, and I just wanted to go back to speak to those at the centre of it and rake through that time."
In the film the Wests players talk of the hate they felt for Manly. Bruce Gibbs, of the Wests, recalled: "I'm not a hateful person but I actually hated the guts of them. All of us did. You went out to physically maim them."
In the documentary Masters explains why he encouraged the clashes. "I wasn't asking people to go out and physically murder and maim," he said. "It was hard, physical violence - but it was honest violence."
Oliver said he got great satisfaction from seeing his memories were true and documenting that time. "I hope it gives something back to people. Going back over it gave something back to me."
 

macavity

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if only wests actually got over the top of them

would have been a great fibro-tale finish
 

*Paul*

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Almost ironic that it was the Silvertails who dug deep under a workload of 5 sudden death finals in 16 days to win the title, whilst the Fibro minor premiers went clunk, clunk, out.
 

Molly

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innsaneink said:
Is that Steven Blyth with Dallas & Day?

No its Bill Cloughsey I think. I was at Lidcombe in thos days asnd have a few treasured dvd's on the Wests v Manly clashes of the late 70's early 80's/. What people do forget is that the Magpies played some exceptionally good football as well....and won their fair share v te Sea Eagles at the time...(just kept losing the big ones..)
 

innsaneink

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Molly said:
No its Bill Cloughsey I think. I was at Lidcombe in thos days asnd have a few treasured dvd's on the Wests v Manly clashes of the late 70's early 80's/. What people do forget is that the Magpies played some exceptionally good football as well....and won their fair share v te Sea Eagles at the time...(just kept losing the big ones..)

My old mans theory was during pre-season, the Magpies pooled their dough & backed themselves with bookies to make the finals, when this was achieved, intensity naturally went out the door...
I too grew up on fibros and silvertails clashes, remember lots of wins regular season, not many semis time.
 

donkey|rope

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i hope this comes out on dvd soonish or gets picked up nationally, cause i'd make the trip of syds to see it if not for exams.
 

innsaneink

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donkey|rope said:
i hope this comes out on dvd soonish or gets picked up nationally, cause i'd make the trip of syds to see it if not for exams.

Yeah its supposed to be on ABC TV later on in the year.
 

851

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Molly said:
No its Bill Cloughsey I think. I was at Lidcombe in thos days asnd have a few treasured dvd's on the Wests v Manly clashes of the late 70's early 80's/. What people do forget is that the Magpies played some exceptionally good football as well....and won their fair share v te Sea Eagles at the time...(just kept losing the big ones..)
Molly where did you get the old DVD's,I would love to get hold of some copies for my library.
And yes you are right Wests did win their fair share against Manly even after Manly bought 3 internationals off us in one offseason.(78/79)
Manly won in 1978,but geez they had some luck and some poor refereeing go there way in the final series to do it.
Spent quite a lot of weekends at Lidcombe Oval.
 

Molly

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innsaneink said:
My old mans theory was during pre-season, the Magpies pooled their dough & backed themselves with bookies to make the finals, when this was achieved, intensity naturally went out the door...
I too grew up on fibros and silvertails clashes, remember lots of wins regular season, not many semis time.

I reckon your old man might be onto something...would of been a fair old drink after the round 22 collect ...
 

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Molly said:
No its Bill Cloughsey I think. I was at Lidcombe in thos days asnd have a few treasured dvd's on the Wests v Manly clashes of the late 70's early 80's/. What people do forget is that the Magpies played some exceptionally good football as well....and won their fair share v te Sea Eagles at the time...(just kept losing the big ones..)
dead right!

wests had some VERY talented ball-playing forwards.

graeme o'grady & bob cooper were fantastic.

they'd put the fear of hell into the opposition with an intense opening exchange, then concentrate on footy whilst the others concentrated on square-ups.

roy masters was a genius.

i was delighted when john flemming signed him. and i was equally pleased when masters nabbed o'grady.

can't believe it's now over 20 years ago. :(
 

Saint 60

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John Dorahy in the background -

851 who were the internationals...Brannigan was one from memmory...remember the other two - Wests were broke and had to let em go...but it was like throwing a bucket of gas on a fire ---
i remember Canterbury nabbed Gillespie and Lamb off Wests a bit later -

and yup West loved beating Manly lol
 

innsaneink

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Saint 60 said:
John Dorahy in the background -

851 who were the internationals...Brannigan was one from memmory...remember the other two - Wests were broke and had to let em go...but it was like throwing a bucket of gas on a fire ---
i remember Canterbury nabbed Gillespie and Lamb off Wests a bit later -

and yup West loved beating Manly lol

Wests grabbed Cement gillespie of the Dogs in '91

We lost Joh Dorahy, Ray Brown & Les Boyd to manly and Tom Raudonikis and Graeme O'Grady to Newtown at the end of '79...half our team gone.
 

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Incidentally you should all give Bad Boys by Roy Masters a read. In it the FvS war was mentioned and it was pointed out that Manly had more players living out in the western suburbs than Wests did.
 

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innsaneink said:
Wests grabbed Cement gillespie of the Dogs in '91

We lost Joh Dorahy, Ray Brown & Les Boyd to manly and Tom Raudonikis and Graeme O'Grady to Newtown at the end of '79...half our team gone.
And yet in 1980 we still managed to beat Manly and finish the year 3rd after losing half our team in the offseason,big hearts back then.:)
 
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Have heard a lot about this time but never been able to witness it

If this ever comes out on DVD could someone please chuck up the link for it
 
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