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skeepe

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I can't believe so many people are putting such faith in the Dally M awards. Hodgson won fullback of the year, whoop de do. Doesn't mean he should make the test team necessarily, and doesn't mean he's the best fullback in the comp.

Look at it this way... In 2003, if the Dally M's had gone ahead, Clinton Schifcofske would have won the fullback of the year, and was close to winning the whole bloody thing. Does that make him the best fullback in the comp? No, it just means he had a great year.
 

Balmain_Boy

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Skeepe, you can't place no validity in the dally m award then trumpet the golden boot award.

That was my point.
 

Mr Saab

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me and kiwi dont see eye to eye on many things BB...we dont rely on each other at all.
It is you Tigers fans that rely on each other and need each others support...much like the knights fans too.
I am not having a dig at Hodgson...i am not saying he is crap or anything like that.
I am saying that he is not equal to Mini. You cant accept that and thats fine...i wouldnt expect you to.
 

Kiwi

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Everlovin' Antichrist said:
awwww

Care for a tissue?

Piss off you weak-kneed f**king sook.

Our team was better than your team this year, that's not arrogance, it's fact.

Show me where I said they weren't better gimp?

Tigers fans are starting to make Rooster Cogburn look f**king humble, thats a fact.

I notice you and BB didn't respond to this

Minicheillo is a better fullback than Hodgson, deal with it. Thurston won the over all Dally M and halback of the year, does that make him better than Johns?

Considering you are basing Hodgson is better because he won the dally m fullback of the year and scored higher in the piss weak.
 
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Charlie Saab said:
yes he had one great yr...i stand by that, and that was 2005.

Well, you're wrong.

Not the first time either.

Charlie Saab said:
He has not been consistent throughout his whole career.

He had a poor second half of 2002 and a poor 2003 in teams whose confidence was shot.

Charlie Saab said:
You go back to 98/99....pathetic magpies teams sure, and Brett was a the best of a sad lot, but he didnt have great yrs (great is a strong word).

I didn't say he was great in those years, but I was there for every home game and he was damn good in teams that are arguably two of the worst of all time.

Charlie Saab said:
Mini and brett and different fullbacks...totally different, but IMO i think Mini is the better custodian. You think otherwise...it is a debate that is going to go nowhere as you wont change my mind and i know you wont change yours.

I didn't say I think Hodgo is better than Mini.

I said I wouldn't swap him for Mini.

My argument was on your "He's had only one great year" statement.
 

Balmain_Boy

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All i'm saying is Hodgson was the best fullback in the 2005 NRL season. Thurston winning the dally m medal implies to me he was the best halfback of the year, yes.
 

Kiwi

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Balmain_Boy said:
It's true mate. You're a pathetic little twosome who need each other's support to have a dig at anybody. Weak as piss.

pffft I don't need Saab, and there are many things I don't agree with him on. I don't need anyones help to have a dig at gimps like yourself
 

Misty Bee

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Hodgeson was sublime for Parra in 01-02. Brilliant - had a blinder in the second half of the GF - and possibly one if the top 5 Origin performances in a blue jumper in his Origin debut.

charlie, you'd remember the length of the fielder from the scrum, or were you crying into your pillow at the time?
 
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Kiwi said:
Show me where I said they weren't better gimp?

You called it arrogance.

It isn't arrogance, you perceive it as arrogance because you're coming from such a low level.

Your team led the comp and was eventually pissed on by my team in the semis.

And you hurt.

Suck sh*t.

Kiwi said:
Tigers fans are starting to make Rooster Cogburn look f**king humble, thats a fact.

You wouldn't know a fact if it pulled your eye out and f**ked your socket.

Kiwi said:
I notice you and simple simon didn't respond to this

Kiwi said:
Considering you are basing Hodgson is better because he won the dally m fullback of the year and scored higher in the piss weak.

I can't speak for Simon, but see if you can back up your claim that I said Hodgo was better than Mini......
 

innsaneink

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Balmain_Boy said:
All i'm saying is Hodgson was the best fullback in the 2005 NRL season. Thurston winning the dally m medal implies to me he was the best halfback of the year, yes.
Spot on....Hodgson was clearly better than Mini in the competition that they both competed in and against one another.
 

Mr Saab

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wow, one origin game...yeah he must be the best of all time then huh. I guess the same could be said of Paul Hauff in 1991. He had three good games that yr...went on to play for Australia.

I also remember Hodgson being thrown into row 34 by Tallis in game three....never played origin again (prob wont either)
 

innsaneink

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Charlie Saab said:
wow, one origin game...yeah he must be the best of all time then huh. I guess the same could be said of Paul Hauff in 1991. He had three good games that yr...went on to play for Australia.

I also remember Hodgson being thrown into row 34 by Tallis in game three....never played origin again (prob wont either)

Momentum, physics....have a gander at it.
 

ozzie

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Balmain_Boy said:
Guess Hodgo will have to console himself with his premiership ring. (Sorry to be arrogant, but arrogance must be met with arrogance.

yeah Mini has one of those too - (have to meet an idiotic statement with an idiotic statement)
 
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Charlie Saab said:
wow, one origin game...yeah he must be the best of all time then huh. I guess the same could be said of Paul Hauff in 1991. He had three good games that yr...went on to play for Australia.

I also remember Hodgson being thrown into row 34 by Tallis in game three....never played origin again (prob wont either)

straws.jpg
 

Mr Saab

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momentum?
Hodgson was 10-12m in from the sideline and was dragged like a sheep ( a sheep prob weighs more) to the sidelines. Never happened in the past 20 yrs.
 

Billy Gunn

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I can't believe some of the WT fans on this site. You cannot give credit to anyone else but your own.

Every one agrees that Hodgo had a fantastic year and is the type of player that every club needs a real Mr 100% all the time.

But when a guy like Mini gets the accolades he deserves you blokes blow up like a second hand lawnmower.

Like it or not Mini has the award has been the best player in all forms of the game and is only getting better. I too think the Dally M awards are a joke accross the Board not just one or too awards. They are not picked on form most awards are a popularity contest.

Someone else in another thread said that Morley may be a chance to win. How can this be when he couldn't even get nominated for prop of the year in the NLR dally M awards.

Well done Mini well deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

innsaneink

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Charlie Saab said:
momentum?
Hodgson was 10-12m in from the sideline and was dragged like a sheep ( a sheep prob weighs more) to the sidelines. Never happened in the past 20 yrs.

Not surprising ....Never has such a player played above his weight in origin, would take some balls I'd imagine to line up week in week out when even the halfbacks are giants compared to yourself.
 

Misty Bee

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Charlie doesn't remember 01 or 02 - he was still in mum's pram getting confused over where to press the duck to make it squeak.

Besides, one good Origin game was enough to make Lockyer test captain.
 

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