the independent commission

[roughyedspud]

we been told,and hoped, that the new IC in australia might have a different outlook in intertnational RL and the development of international RL in the southern hemisphere...what with it being totally different to the previous administration...new blood,new faces,new ideas and all that.....


then the IC signs up david gallop on a 4 year contract



oh well....carry on as you are.....maybe the IC's next action will be to take the shotgun to the other foot and blow that one off too.......

 

[Bombay Devils RLFC]

So how is it exactly David Gallops fault that international RL has not expanded? As a CEO he must act on the boards instructions not have his own agenda.

For the record under David's leadership RL has seen a significant growth in crowd numbers, TV ratings and participation.

Not sure what else you expect from the guy but obviously you are an outstanding success in your chosen field and would know how to pick a failure when you see it

 

[roughyedspud]

nothing is going to change,the international game in the southern hemisphere will continue to stagnate because they are employing the same administrators as before.....


geoff carr will be getting a phone call next

 

[docbrown]

Just wait and see what happens.

 

[parraparraparra]

at least John Grant is a former Kangaroo

 

[taipan]

As is Wayne Pearce.

The one thing rugby league has over fumbleball is the ability to stage international matches or world cups ,without having to bastardise the rules.
An organisation such as the I.C running rugby league,have business people of a high standard,who know all about competitive forces and the ability to grow the market, to where you have already have an advantage.
With Grant at the helm ,international rl will not be neglected,despite any clubs who may bitch about losing players for a week or two.
Gallop is there to administer the clubs and ensure things run smoothly.The I.C are the árchitects"if you like and Gallop is the site foreman.

 

[hutch]

So how is it exactly David Gallops fault that international RL has not expanded? As a CEO he must act on the boards instructions not have his own agenda.

For the record under David's leadership RL has seen a significant growth in crowd numbers, TV ratings and participation.

But so it should of! I don't think that gallop should be given a pat on the back for the growth the sport has shown in Australia as that is the bare minimum it should be achieving. We have the best sport in the world which is nowhere near reaching its potential both domestically and internationally. Gallop has done a fair job, but it is time for somebody else with vision to take this sport to the next level in the future!

 

[druzik]

There are a couple issues here, one where I think spud and yourself may be missing the point

So how is it exactly David Gallops fault that international RL has not expanded? As a CEO he must act on the boards instructions not have his own agenda.

Being a leading member on the RLIF board he also needed to look at the health and growth of the game internationally... in reality over the last 10 years he and the RLIF who were controlled by the majority of Aussies have not done that, through their conflicts of interest in the ARL and NRL... and yes Richard Lewis falls under that banner as well. Its been the likes of volunteers and and an independent line of setting up the RLEF that has seen the sport grow in Europe and North America.

David being the head of the NRL and also on the RLIF board clearly constitutes a conflict of interest. Does he play the cards to improve the NRL or the international game where not all nations have the ability to implement the rules that and ideas the NRL does. Considering that the RLIF spot is a "volunteer" position and the NRL one is a PAID position, It's obvious where his loyalties clearly lie.... and rightly so.

For the record under David's leadership RL has seen a significant growth in crowd numbers, TV ratings and participation.

In Australia yes, but not around the world. Rugby League still struggles immensley for exposure around the world. Its the RLIFs job to do this and David is part of the RLIF supposedly....

Not sure what else you expect from the guy but obviously you are an outstanding success in your chosen field and would know how to pick a failure when you see it

Spud however in his comments is wrong. You are correct, the NRL have made the right choice in re-electing David Gallop, he has done the job for them and they feel he is the right person to continue that... no problem... what Spud should have an issue with is that the RLIF board had re=elected him last year... or that David (and all the others) has not stepped down from the RLIF for their conflicts of interest.

 

[Bombay Devils RLFC]

There are a couple issues here, one where I think spud and yourself may be missing the point



Being a leading member on the RLIF board he also needed to look at the health and growth of the game internationally... in reality over the last 10 years he and the RLIF who were controlled by the majority of Aussies have not done that, through their conflicts of interest in the ARL and NRL... and yes Richard Lewis falls under that banner as well. Its been the likes of volunteers and and an independent line of setting up the RLEF that has seen the sport grow in Europe and North America.

David being the head of the NRL and also on the RLIF board clearly constitutes a conflict of interest. Does he play the cards to improve the NRL or the international game where not all nations have the ability to implement the rules that and ideas the NRL does. Considering that the RLIF spot is a "volunteer" position and the NRL one is a PAID position, It's obvious where his loyalties clearly lie.... and rightly so.



In Australia yes, but not around the world. Rugby League still struggles immensley for exposure around the world. Its the RLIFs job to do this and David is part of the RLIF supposedly....



Spud however in his comments is wrong. You are correct, the NRL have made the right choice in re-electing David Gallop, he has done the job for them and they feel he is the right person to continue that... no problem... what Spud should have an issue with is that the RLIF board had re=elected him last year... or that David (and all the others) has not stepped down from the RLIF for their conflicts of interest.

Not sure it really does support a conflict of interest as the RLIF as far as I know does not provide any clear strategy that would allow anyone to make such a statement.

My issue goes back that it is not up to David to set the agenda on any issue. He is the CEO of the NRL and therefore must take direction from the board on what they want to happen.

It is the same for me in my job. The directors state what they want and it is my job to put the strategies in place to make this happen - not the other way around.

Hopefully we will see the IC take the lead on international development like the AFL does. I see the pacific islands as a great place to start. Like all of us we want the game we love grow to its full potential. But do not blame David Gallop as there have been plenty before him that could have done a lot more

 

[deluded pom?]

The one thing rugby league has over fumbleball is the ability to stage international matches or world cups ,without having to bastardise the rules.

Every time RL stages a tournament involving England and Australia we have to play by "international rules" thus bastardising" the international game. Maybe not to the same extent as the AR/GF games but bastardising nonetheless. A situation that will increase if the "Captain's Call" is implemented into the NRL.

 

[taipan]

Every time RL stages a tournament involving England and Australia we have to play by "international rules" thus bastardising" the international game. Maybe not to the same extent as the AR/GF games but bastardising nonetheless. A situation that will increase if the "Captain's Call" is implemented into the NRL.

There is no change to the real stucture,there is no change to the ball ,there is no manipulating the posts.
it(rl intnls) is chalk and cheese when comparing it to fumbleball.
We have had a 4 nations ,they have had a three states.

Your "maybe not to the same extent" is an Olympic class understatement.

If the Captain's call becomes a fixture ,rest assured the likes of John Grant and his team will liase with other intnl rl bodies to ensure it is common to all.Whereas the current mob just look in their own backyard.

 

[deal.with.it]

I don't really see the conflict of interest, as clearly as some others obviously do - re. david gallop.
There needs to be an Australian representative on the RLIF board, and who better than David Gallop? He represents the highest level in Aus, and has the greatest players in "his" competition. He is not going to vote on anything international that is going to jeopardise the Australian rugby league competition and professionals. Under the IC, the NRL is the premier comp of league in Australia recognised by the IC.

In the ideal world, there would be more members on the board, at least one from every area (pacific, australia, nz, asia, america, uk, europe, africa etc.../ or every nation recognised by the RLIF - whichever is more suitable). Then, when issues are voted on, and idea cannot be quashed because Aus and NZ vote against it. Then, you would have a fully functioning RLIF. (With of course the ability for nations to protest or boycott events, or be suspended from the RLIF).

Hope that makes sense, let me know if you need anything clarified.

 

[Bluebags1908]

This is what Independent Commission Joh Grant has to say about international football last July. Sounds promising.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150325269884359&comments




"Code must be strong globally" - Independent commission chairman John Grant



by The Roo Crew on Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 6:55pm



Code must be strong globally: chairman
Courier Mail

Inaugural IC chairman John Grant is adamant that international RL should be at the forefront of the sport's future, despite Australia's obsession with State of Origin.

Grant said it was cruical for the expansion of RL worldwide that Test matches be placed on similar pedestal to the annual series between QLD & NSW.

"State of Origin is the jewel in the crown but we should not forget about international RL and its improtance to the game's future" he said. "It's a must that youngsters aspire to represent their country"

"State of Origin and international RL need to be complementary".

He suggested it should be a priority to ensure the existing Four Nations series was not simply a tournament that would always feature Aus & NZ in the final.

"The challange is the get the British nations and France to consistant levels of performance, but it's a tough task condiering the other sports played at high levels in those countries."

"But the competition that exists between Aus & NZ now is fantasic."

Grant admitted that the RLWC would never compete with the corrosponding tournaments in Soccer & RU in terms of depth and the no. of countries competing.

"Soccer is the world game and RU is playing in more countries than RL" he said. "But for everybody playing the game at the grassroots level, RL needs to be as strong as it can internationally."

Source: http://www.couriermail.com.au

 

[mattyf]

Gallop has done a great job .... hardest job in Oz with two owners of sport now .... John Grant is a great man, will make International strong again .... gallop deserves chance under one owner

 

[deluded pom?]

"State of Origin is the jewel in the crown" says it all for me.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I know, what a clown. The jewel is England v The Exiles isn't it?

 

[franklin2323]

"State of Origin is the jewel in the crown" says it all for me.

It is and will be until the kiwis can win an ANZAC test or the poms can turn up for more then 40mins in this country.

Other then a few finals we haven't been tested internationally for 20 years.SOO on the other hand is always a great contest played too packed houses. Hard to argue.

It's up to the others to lift to our standard to join us

 

[docbrown]

It's up to the others to lift to our standard to join us

The ARLC though should be looking at improving the local region. It should be funding them, setting up development officers and overseers, playing trial matches and organising academies.

Sure it's an Australian comp but if we're serious about have a competitive international strand further down the track then we need to start taking care of our neighbours.

 

[league13]

I know, what a clown. The jewel is England v The Exiles isn't it?

That remark sums up the typical Aussie outlook on anything outside that country.

It's beyond comprehension, that the Aussies plunder other countries playing stocks when they have such an abundance of talent available.They have never done anything for the international game and only play the Kiwis under duress.
Lets hope this new commision adopts a different line of thinking and we can move the international game forward where it belongs.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The boss of the commission HAS shown a different line of thinking and the first thing a pom says in response is to have a whinge about SOO and ignore what he actually said. Now that's a typical pommy outlook. Hypocracy and ignorance.