the independent commission

[WireMan]

The boss of the commission HAS shown a different line of thinking and the first thing a pom says in response is to have a whinge about SOO and ignore what he actually said. Now that's a typical pommy outlook. Hypocracy and ignorance.

...and the first thing you did as a response was to say something stupid and unhelpful.
The second was to have a pop at an entire nation.

So have a look in the mirror first.
Especially as the post was a quote from the commission...


The Commission have the tough job in convincing half the rugby playing world that the World Cup is the absolute pinnacle of the game. Until that seed is planted and alowed to grow the international game wil not be strong.

That article was wrote it in July but the last 4 nations wasn't just another NZ vs Aus final, and the World champions are NOT Australia. So now is a time when its not a status quo. It needs promoting now.

Scrapping internationals for a year before a World cup is not promoting the game. Nor is not funding the international game in the SH outside of Aus.

 

[franklin2323]

That article was wrote it in July but the last 4 nations wasn't just another NZ vs Aus final, and the World champions are NOT Australia.

Of course it looks good to have trophies elsewhere. The problem is those 3 games are about all Australia have lost in 10 years. Take NZ to NH they are hopeless bring England here they are hopeless. Neither can win more then the odd game against Australia.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

...and the first thing you did as a response was to say something stupid and unhelpful.
The second was to have a pop at an entire nation.

So have a look in the mirror first.
Especially as the post was a quote from the commission...


The Commission have the tough job in convincing half the rugby playing world that the World Cup is the absolute pinnacle of the game. Until that seed is planted and alowed to grow the international game wil not be strong.

That article was wrote it in July but the last 4 nations wasn't just another NZ vs Aus final, and the World champions are NOT Australia. So now is a time when its not a status quo. It needs promoting now.

Scrapping internationals for a year before a World cup is not promoting the game. Nor is not funding the international game in the SH outside of Aus.

Firstly, more hypocracy. It's okay for poms to make sweeping generalisations about Aussies but burr up when they get a taste of their own medicine. For the record it's not all poms who are whinging, ignorant, hypocrites - it's just miserable northerners. Secondly, "the commission" doesn't exist yet. It was a quote from the future head of the commission and he is absolutely spot on in everything he says, even if poms want to selectively quote him and ignore the whole point of what he said. That's just typical ignorance on display. And lastly we have the obligatory factual inaccuracies. The IC didn't "scrap" internationals. In fact no one did. The Kangaroos will play two Tests this year and the reason they aren't playing more was due to demands by the players' union. And of course the Australian game does fund RL outside Australia. Not to mention the fact that the RFL relies on it to stay affloat - and what is it spending its money on by the way? Buying a hole in the ground to save a failing "big 4" Super (sic) League club maybe? - but we can't expect facts and credibility from ignorant, hypocrites.

 

[franklin2323]

The ARLC though should be looking at improving the local region. It should be funding them, setting up development officers and overseers, playing trial matches and organising academies.

You won't get an argument from me on that. The Islands need to play more games like Europe nations are. We need to keep the best playing for them not Aus/NZ more oppunities to play for the countries help.

 

[Coastbloke]

It is and will be until the kiwis can win an ANZAC test or the poms can turn up for more then 40mins in this country.

Other then a few finals we haven't been tested internationally for 20 years.SOO on the other hand is always a great contest played too packed houses. Hard to argue.

It's up to the others to lift to our standard to join us

Fantastic contest..6 in a row isn't it..??

Not so in the big 3 Tournaments since 2005..

 

[WireMan]

Of course it looks good to have trophies elsewhere. The problem is those 3 games are about all Australia have lost in 10 years. Take NZ to NH they are hopeless bring England here they are hopeless. Neither can win more then the odd game against Australia.

Well thats the thing about World sport. Some teams perform better in places than others. That means that even if its just NZ in the SH or England in the NH, there is some competition for Australia.

The fact that Australia are able to perform on both sides of the world makes them the number one test team. This leads to the NRL being regarded as the top domestic comp.

If (humour me) England win the the next world cup, and then go on to actually turn up at the next one on the SH, suddenly the NRLs claim as being the best is diminished and the SOO stops becoming the be-all and end-all of rugby league.

Hence the International game is much more important than a domestic affair in one country.

Plus its easier to sell an international game to the world than a game based on two states playing each other. For example, would you be interested in California vs Florida in rugby league, or USA vs Wales?

Firstly, more hypocracy. It's okay for poms to make sweeping generalisations about Aussies but burr up when they get a taste of their own medicine. For the record it's not all poms who are whinging, ignorant, hypocrites - it's just miserable northerners. Secondly, "the commission" doesn't exist yet. It was a quote from the future head of the commission and he is absolutely spot on in everything he says, even if poms want to selectively quote him and ignore the whole point of what he said. That's just typical ignorance on display. And lastly we have the obligatory factual inaccuracies. The IC didn't "scrap" internationals. In fact no one did. The Kangaroos will play two Tests this year and the reason they aren't playing more was due to demands by the players' union. And of course the Australian game does fund RL outside Australia. Not to mention the fact that the RFL relies on it to stay affloat - and what is it spending its money on by the way? Buying a hole in the ground to save a failing "big 4" Super (sic) League club maybe? - but we can't expect facts and credibility from ignorant, hypocrites.

you finished?

I'm going to give that rant a C. Good length and i can feel the anger but waffles a bit in the middle. Plus repetition loses it a mark also.

Could do better.

 

[deluded pom?]

I fully expected some people to agree with the claim that SoO is the jewel in the crown and that's fine. I just didn't expect the new IC commisioner to be telling the rest of the RL world that he thinks so too. Isn't it about time the Aussie authorities took an interest in the rest of Australia? ECT likes to condemn northerners as he likes to highlight the limited region of the UK that RL is played in to any standard. Can I now bemoan Aussie easterners because you only play RL in a limited region to any standard? Or is that ignorant and hypocritical?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It's got nothing to do with showing how limited the Ingerlish game is. It's because northerners are just whiney, miserable sods who simply can't stand that Australia has taken the game and made into something of significance, which they could never do. But if you want to go down that route, at least the game is actually big on the eastern seaboard. RL is number one in about two towns in Ingerlund. And it's not even mildly popular in the north east so claiming it's a northern game isn't even that accurate. It's an M62 game if anything. Maybe if the RFL had bought the Racecourse Ground we'd still have a Welsh SL team instead of buying Odsal so that a supposedly big Ingerlish club can survive. Just shows how committed the RFL is to anywhere outside the M62. Wrexham misses out by about 30 miles. So instead of criticising a yet to exist organisation about the game in Australia maybe you need to worry more about your own very small, dirty backyard.

 

[taipan]

"State of Origin is the jewel in the crown" says it all for me.

Meaning the series is the most watched highest profile in oz,and earns the most dollars for the code pro rata .
Take away SOO and the Tv contract drops substantially,and the jewel is gone.

 

[deluded pom?]

Meaning the series is the most watched highest profile in oz,and earns the most dollars for the code pro rata .
Take away SOO and the Tv contract drops substantially,and the jewel is gone.

It earns more dollars for RL in Australia not the code as a whole. Still, you stick to your two states and let AFL have the others.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Oh really? And what does "International Origin" do for the sport? Or buying Odsal? State of Origin is the jewel in the crown and International origin is the stone in your shoe. Still, you stick to Featherstone and let every other sport have every other inch of that so called country.

 

[taipan]

It earns more dollars for RL in Australia not the code as a whole. Still, you stick to your two states and let AFL have the others.

People in Victoria who don't follow NRL,seem to follow the SOO.
As the SOO earns about $15m for the code and the code generates about $83mpa via Tv contract,hardly small bikkies.
Get English rl up to scratch to compete regularly with the Aussies and kiwis,then you may have a point.

 

[WireMan]

It's got nothing to do with showing how limited the Ingerlish game is. It's because northerners are just whiney, miserable sods who simply can't stand that Australia has taken the game and made into something of significance, which they could never do. But if you want to go down that route, at least the game is actually big on the eastern seaboard. RL is number one in about two towns in Ingerlund. And it's not even mildly popular in the north east so claiming it's a northern game isn't even that accurate. It's an M62 game if anything. Maybe if the RFL had bought the Racecourse Ground we'd still have a Welsh SL team instead of buying Odsal so that a supposedly big Ingerlish club can survive. Just shows how committed the RFL is to anywhere outside the M62. Wrexham misses out by about 30 miles. So instead of criticising a yet to exist organisation about the game in Australia maybe you need to worry more about your own very small, dirty backyard.

Nw this won't do. The first rant had feeling, this is just going through the motions.

To much waffle, repetition again, boring (English with an I!! the scandal :roll.

I'm giving this a D-. Standard are slipping.

Get English rl up to scratch to compete regularly with the Aussies and kiwis,then you may have a point.

How can we compete regularly with NZ? They never seem to turn up in the NH?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Nw this won't do. The first rant had feeling, this is just going through the motions.

To much waffle, repetition again, boring (English with an I!! the scandal :roll.

I'm giving this a D-. Standard are slipping.

What mark would you get for resorting to facetiousness when you can't make any other kind of argument? Not to mention the grammar.

 

[WireMan]

What mark would you get for resorting to facetiousness when you can't make any other kind of argument? Not to mention the grammar.

What mark? Prob a B. I could of thrown a joke in.

No argument to make against boring waffle, so none was made. Hence your rather low marks.

 

[franklin2323]

If (humour me) England win the the next world cup,

It will be a huge shot in arm that's for sure but the inbetween are just as important. We draw roughly 1m viewers to tests yet SOO gets 3+m. SOO draws 50k + for all 3 games despite weather being poor in June. Yet for tests average under 20k yet the weathers great in Oct/Nov they should draw more but don't. Better quality games and that will change.

Look at the 2000's as an example. We won the WC undefeated with ease. 2001 v GB we lost game 1 but won the series 2-1. 2002 v GB Mid year we won 64-10. 2003 v GB (Over there) won 3-0. We lost the tri nations final (the 1st series lost since 1978). 2006 we lost a game to England yet played NZ in the final.

The WC final loss in 2008 is 3 losses in 10 years hardly going to bring the other 2m watching SOO across to watching tests.

 

[franklin2323]

Fantastic contest..6 in a row isn't it..??

Not so in the big 3 Tournaments since 2005..

Yeah that part sucks. it's rare over those 6 series for NSW to be belted. Usually NSW's pack belts them but QLD's backs class to get them home. It's quality games every game is certain to draw 2.5m viewers & 50k+ crowds.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

What mark? Prob a B. I could of thrown a joke in.

No argument to make against boring waffle, so none was made. Hence your rather low marks.

Oh you could of could you? Education over ther must be just as second rate as the football. No response means no come back. You've got nothing. You don't even get a mark. It's what is called a non-serious attempt.

 

[WireMan]

Oh you could of could you? Education over ther must be just as second rate as the football. No response means no come back. You've got nothing. You don't even get a mark. It's what is called a non-serious attempt.

Yeah i could. Hence i typed it.

No response means nothing to repsond to. So your logic is a flawed as your mini rants are boring.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

You don't even know how ignorant you are. It's "could have" you cretin. So not only are you incapable of generating a response to the argument at hand, when you try to be a smart-arse and use words like "hence" in every post you just prove what a dim f**ker you actually are by using the kind of grammar a 10-year-old should be ashamed of.