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The Johns sob story continues

skeepe

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Has he had enough of fishbowl?

By his manager, John Fordham
August 16, 2006
THE NRL can ill-afford to drive its No.1 drawcard Andrew Johns away from the game in this country.

If the NRL judiciary tonight votes in favour of a four-match ban and the Knights subsequently either fail to make the final eight or survive the first semi-final without their chief playmaker, would you blame him if he suddenly decided he's had enough?

Had enough of the pressure-cooker environment, the scrutiny and the witch-hunts that are part and parcel of being the game's highest-profile and best player.

Should Joey decide to walk in such circumstances - and let me make it abundantly clear that I have no brief from him to say he would - there would be no shortage of suitors lining up for arguably the most dominant player in the game's history.

There are numerous rugby league and rugby union organisations around the world that would jump at engaging the best player in either rugby code should he suddenly become available.

By sheer coincidence, one inquiry from an overseas rugby union organisation arrived only a few hours before the Knights took the field against Manly last Friday night, a match ultimately spoiled by the ineptitude of the whistle-blower and the failure of a touch judge to intervene.

There's also Joey's lingering interest in finishing his career with the Warrington Wolves. Every few weeks the club's owner is on the phone to register his interest.

Joey has often complained about the constant off-field pressure, focus and scrutiny that come with the lofty status he has achieved on the football field.

In Newcastle, a city he loves dearly, he lives in a fishbowl. Whenever he can escape to enjoy the simple things in life - surfing, a concert and, yes, even visiting an art gallery - he is at his happiest.

The poor guy can't make a move without someone ringing a news-paper, a radio station, a television station or his club with yet another piece of ill-informed gossip.

Over the years, he has had to put up with people encroaching on his property, causing a racket as they drive past his house or even ringing his doorbell to say hello.

This intrusion has driven him to the edge on many occasions. Three years ago he seriously considered a switch to rugby union where he believed the spotlight would not be as intense.

Ultimately, it was the prospect of lengthy separations fom his little boy Samuel that kept him in rugby league with the Knights.

Some people have questioned if the NRL is using the game's highest-profile player as an example in order to deflect growing and legitimate criticism of its match officials.

What nobody appears to be disputing is that the penalty grading far exceeds the severity of the offence.

With the assistance of his legal team headed by Alan Sullivan QC, Andrew Johns tonight will present his case to the NRL judiciary to answer a grade three contrary conduct charge.

The judiciary has to decide if the match review committee's penalty recommendation fits the charge.

The immediate playing future of Andrew Johns, one of rugby league's greatest players, ambassadors and characters, will hinge on the result.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20140687-23214,00.html

Awwww poor widdle Joey. Life's so tough. Give me a break. What an absolute crock of an article.

He did something wrong, and he must be punished. You'd think Fordham was his father or something. He's going to go, he's going to go. Call his bluff NRL. Then if he does go, we can all say good riddance to bad rubbish.

Will Fordham be fined for also now abusing officials? One can only hope.

What will we see tomorrow if the judiciary do in fact suspend him for 4 matches? Johns' wife? son? Anything to get sympathy for a man who is one of the biggest sooks to ever grace God's green Earth.

Joey, your time is up. We're all sick of you. Now f**k off you f**king merkin!
 

[furrycat]

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You're listening to what his manager is saying, not the player.

Wake up to yourself Skeepe
 

mxlegend99

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WTF is with all the Joey hate?

All he done was swear at a touchie FFS. God. I bet most people here would've done the same thing if they were on the wrong end of that decision also. It cost his team a chance at winning the game, AND a top 4 spot. It could have cost him a home semi final also. All because a touch judge is f*cking blind.

I'd leave the sport too if they are going to suspend him and cost his team a chance at the Premiership all because he reacted to a touchie that is not doing his job properly. Obviously they don't give a sh*t about getting things right. Finch came out and stated that the Clark call was correct, and he is wrong. They are too big too admit when they're wrong. And would rather punish players then accept that they are often the cause of teams losing games.

Also, Joey is not the first to swear at a touch judge or referee, but he is the first to have this sh*t happen to him. Everyone is looking for a chance to hate on him.
 

HevyDevy

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I'm sick of all this do-gooder crap about "Joey must pay".

He swore. Who gives a toss? I don't.

In all of this drama, Joey has only uttered two words. The rest has all been others commenting and his manager writing that turd today.

Let him off. He is the best player in the game and we want to watch him play while we still can. Suspend him for foul play, not foul language.
 

Ice777

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It's not the fact that he swore at the touchie, it's what he called him. I agree the touch judge got it very wrong and Joey had every right to be pissed, but you just can't go around calling officials stuff like that.

No he wasn't doing his job properly but then again neither was Joey because it's not the way for a captain to behave. Sometimes his team mates don't do their job properly so does that make it alright to call them f*cking merkins? No it doesn't. I've been known to use that language all the time and i don't get offended one bit when i hear it. But i'm not the captain of an NRL side and it certainly wasn't used to a person of authority. If it was i'd expect to cop my right whack.

Let's not forget this anti Joey sentiment doesn't just stem from this incident, it's not so long ago he walked off the field sooking and not accepting the game ball for the points scoring record. In many ways he's got nobody but himself to blame for his poularity hitting an all time low.

You've gotta ask yourself was it the touchue that may have cost them a top 4 spot and a chance at a home final or was it Joey for opening up his gob calling the TJ things he shouldn't have? Methinks it's the latter :sarcasm:
 

mxlegend99

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Ice777 said:
You've gotta ask yourself was it the touchue that may have cost them a top 4 spot and a chance at a home final or was it Joey for opening up his gob calling the TJ things he shouldn't have? Methinks it's the latter :sarcasm:
The TJ cost him the top 4 spot. Had they scored a try. They would've been in the top 4. He reacted to the TJ costing his team the chance to get the try. The TJ made the wrong call and has not paid for it. It's happening far too often where TJ and refs are making sh*t decisions and nothing happens.

I'm not a Knights supporter, or a Tigers supporter. But both games had calls that had me pissed off. It's just unfair and bloody stupid that the referees get away with all this crap. WHen Panthers played Manly and the referee failed to catch a double pass leading to a try. I was swearing also. When the video referee overruled the referee to award a penalty to Manly that cost us the game, i was also swearing.

At the end of the day, these sorts of decisions can cost teams dearly. They don't always even out either, as Panthers played Souths and we had a fair try disallowed to the Souths and it was ruled as a forward pass. Manly put a 3 metre forward pass and it isn't called. We pass it backward and it is.

Surely people can see how a player can snap with all these stupid refereeing decisions. Especially when they can cost the team a game, F/A and position on the ladder.
 

HevyDevy

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One of the excuses used by the NRL is that referees are human and will therefore make mistakes at times.

Well, players are human too and will therefore get emotional at times.
 

greenos

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mxlegend99 said:
The TJ cost him the top 4 spot. Had they scored a try. They would've been in the top 4.

That's what i don't get. They wouldn't of even had a whole set. Manly also copped a bad decision. It all evens out, just because it was at the end doesn't mean it cost them a top 4 spot. Also you have to take into account the TJ's view. The zoomed in camera angle is far easer to see then what the TJ's view was.
 

willvillain

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I could barely care less about what Joey did when he sweared at the touchie. It's bad, possibly, but hardly anything to make such a fuss about.

What is starting to sh*t me is how he has reacted since then. He's acting like the biggest prima donna the game has ever seen, all over a decision which in fairness was unlikely to have any consequence in the grand scheme of things. Ok, if the call is made correctly - what happens? Knights get two more tackles? Yet people are going on about it as if the Knights were denied a fair try or something. Joey wants to leave the NRL because of THAT? Give me a break.
 

mxlegend99

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HevyDevy said:
One of the excuses used by the NRL is that referees are human and will therefore make mistakes at times.

Well, players are human too and will therefore get emotional at times.
Exactly. The referee's mistakes can cost teams games and in a tight competition like this, positions on the ladder.
 

mxlegend99

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greenos said:
That's what i don't get. They wouldn't of even had a whole set. Manly also copped a bad decision. It all evens out, just because it was at the end doesn't mean it cost them a top 4 spot. Also you have to take into account the TJ's view. The zoomed in camera angle is far easer to see then what the TJ's view was.
Had Manly not knocked that ball on. That would've been a try (no way could they have stopped the Knights getting in if it weren't for knocking the ball on, the winger had a clear gap to the tryline). At the least, Knights should have gotten the ball back and had one last chance to get the try. They were in excellent position for it... with the best half-back in the world.
 

RainMan

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Ice777 said:
It's not the fact that he swore at the touchie, it's what he called him. I agree the touch judge got it very wrong and Joey had every right to be pissed, but you just can't go around calling officials stuff like that.

Agree totally. If joey had of said "You're f*cking blind touchie!" We wouldn't be having this drama.
 

innsaneink

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mxlegend99 said:
Exactly. The referee's mistakes can cost teams games and in a tight competition like this, positions on the ladder.

Part of having a human....those species that make mistakes in everything we do....controlling the game.

No probs with that at all....as long as they admit their mistakes, and dont try to justify them.
 

El Diablo

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now bloody Beazley has waded into it

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Dont-quit-Australia-Joey-Beazley/2006/08/16/1155407858970.html
Don't quit Australia, Joey: Beazley


August 16, 2006 - 12:49PM

Opposition Leader Kim Beazley has pleaded with Newcastle Knights rugby league star Andrew Johns not to leave Australia.

Johns is reportedly considering moving to England if he receives a four-match ban from the NRL judiciary for abusing a touch judge.

Mr Beazley, a keen Newcastle supporter, urged Johns, regarded as the world's best rugby league player, not to quit Australia.

"Joey Johns, don't go," he told reporters.

"You've got five good years left in you and Newcastle needs five premierships.

"Whatever you do at this disappointing time, don't leave the country, don't leave Newcastle."

Mr Beazley called for Johns to be punished "as little as possible" for his indiscretion.

"He needs to make amends but he mustn't go," he said.

"It would be a very great tragedy for the Newcastle Knights and the game of league if he disappeared."

somebody please shoot me
 

HevyDevy

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willvillain said:
I could barely care less about what Joey did when he sweared at the touchie. It's bad, possibly, but hardly anything to make such a fuss about.

What is starting to sh*t me is how he has reacted since then. He's acting like the biggest prima donna the game has ever seen, all over a decision which in fairness was unlikely to have any consequence in the grand scheme of things. Ok, if the call is made correctly - what happens? Knights get two more tackles? Yet people are going on about it as if the Knights were denied a fair try or something. Joey wants to leave the NRL because of THAT? Give me a break.

He doesn't want to leave. His manager is the one saying that.
 

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