The JT, GI and Cam Smith Appreciation Thread

[ANTiLAG]

So, JT and GI definitely and Cam Smith possibly waltz into my all time Queensland Origin team and All Time combined Origin team, there with the names like Lewis, Shearer and Kenny (NSW).

Do they make yours?

Discuss.

 

[perverse]

JT plays about 20 minutes a match (last 10 of each half). Can't argue with the other 2... they're brilliant as far as I'm concerned, but JT consistently gets more credit than he deserves. He also has the poofiest tattoo I've seen in god knows how long with those gay angel wings.

JT also can't defend for piss. NSW constantly fail to exploit this, when most club teams manage to just fine.

 

[derp]

JT plays about 20 minutes a match (last 10 of each half). Can't argue with the other 2... they're brilliant as far as I'm concerned, but JT consistently gets more credit than he deserves. He also has the poofiest tattoo I've seen in god knows how long with those gay angel wings.

JT also can't defend for piss. NSW constantly fail to exploit this, when most club teams manage to just fine.

:lol: My sister in law has the same tats.

 

[ANTiLAG]

JT plays about 20 minutes a match (last 10 of each half). Can't argue with the other 2... they're brilliant as far as I'm concerned, but JT consistently gets more credit than he deserves. He also has the poofiest tattoo I've seen in god knows how long with those gay angel wings.

JT also can't defend for piss. NSW constantly fail to exploit this, when most club teams manage to just fine.

So who is your all time origin halfback, if not JT, Stuart or Langer would appear the only other real contenders... Or does your Newcastleness extend to Joey?

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Kiwi has his own "all time Queensland" team :lol:

 

[Mr Fourex]

How cute......:roll:

 

[mongoose]

So, JT and GI definitely and Cam Smith possibly waltz into my all time Queensland Origin team and All Time combined Origin team, there with the names like Lewis, Shearer and Kenny (NSW).

Discuss.

JT has been integral to QLD's success. Only Johns groupies will try and discredit him. I'm not saying he's better than Johns, but anyone who thinks JT has not proved himself in this arena is a liar.

 

[ANTiLAG]

JT has been integral to QLD's success. Only Johns groupies will try and discredit him. I'm not saying he's better than Johns, but anyone who thinks JT has not proved himself in this arena is a liar.

Oh I'm happy to say it.

JT has done far more at Origin than Joey, despite that game in 2005...


I've been saying it for a couple of years now...

I want to know where other fans are at now with JT, GI, and Cam Smith.

For me GI trumps Meninga at Origin even... but I would still try n find a spot for Kenny...

 

[Dummy Spit Johns]

JT plays about 20 minutes a match (last 10 of each half). Can't argue with the other 2... they're brilliant as far as I'm concerned, but JT consistently gets more credit than he deserves. He also has the poofiest tattoo I've seen in god knows how long with those gay angel wings.

JT also can't defend for piss. NSW constantly fail to exploit this, when most club teams manage to just fine.

Sour bikkies on the JT front.
Is poor little diddums upset that his success is far superior to what's his names from Newcastle?

 

[perverse]

So who is your all time origin halfback, if not JT, Stuart or Langer would appear the only other real contenders... Or does your Newcastleness extend to Joey?

No, I'd say Langer. I'm not a big fan of using team achievements to measure the greatness of individual players. Joey the better player outright, but didn't do it often enough on this stage for various, heavily debated reasons.

JT has made some big plays, I'll give him that. Is just MIA for such massive portions of every game he plays. Chooses his times well, but I guess I ask more of my halfback. What Joey did in '05 is heads and shoulders above anything JT has ever done in origin.

 

[Dummy Spit Johns]

What Joey did in '05 is heads and shoulders above anything JT has ever done in origin.

I smell a tosser!:sarcasm:

 

[perverse]

Then get your nose out of there, you filthy grub.

 

[Mr Saab]

JT has made some big plays, I'll give him that. Is just MIA for such massive portions of every game he plays. Chooses his times well, but I guess I ask more of my halfback. What Joey did in '05 is heads and shoulders above anything JT has ever done in origin.

7 straight series wins > Johns' 2 games in 2005

 

[perverse]

Thurston 24 straight games......7 straight series wins > Johns' 2 games in 2005

Refer to my previous post regarding team achievements and individual accolades. JT has the greatest origin team of all time around him. Joey had a team down on confidence that had lost game 1 around him. It's a no contest, there are no 2 games that you could pick of JT's that even come close to those 2 matches.

No surprise to see all the usual suspects towing the usual lines in here, though. If we can just get RABK and JM in here it'll be just like old times.

Also note that you blokes brought Johns into this, not I.

 

[cornerposter]

JT's my favourite NRL player* yet there's no way he gets a gig before Alf.

*tragic he never went to the Broncs

 

[Shorty]

Not tragic, f**king glorious!
Perverse, I agree with you - However I think you're a tad harsh and I think he's been extremely influential in the dynasty.

 

[perverse]

I'm known to exercise hyperbole from time to time. lol. You wouldn't think it, but I do have a lot of time for JT and have grown a lot more respect for him after learning how solid he is off-field, too. He is the best half running around, although I'm surprised to see how long it's taking him to adapt to 5/8th again... as I've always thought of him as a natural 5/8th playing halfback by necessity. I thought he would slot straight in there and maybe even go up a level. I suppose you get into a routine and it takes a while to break it. Not that he's going busted, just quiet I suppose.

Regardless, he might be in a battle to make the bench in the "greatest QLD origin team", or even the greatest origin team period at a stretch as some sort of super sub. You couldn't blame him only playing 1/4-1/2 a game if that's all he was on the field for. I definitely wouldn't have him as the halfback, though. Langer for mine if you want to talk entire origin career, and of course I'm probably going to pick Johns if you want to talk "at their peak" sort of stuff. to be honest, that's not the criteria I would use for the thread. I'm comfortable that Johns was the best footballer I've ever seen play, but that isn't to say he scoops the pool of accolades in every department, and it's an argument that's been truly done to death and doesn't need continuation here. Langer had a stellar origin career... and was topped off with one of my favourite (in retrospect... not at the time) Rugby League fairytales at the end. I LOVE "Cometh the hour, cometh the man" type moments, and when a player rises to it you can't help but sit back and applaud... even when you're on the wrong end of the stick. That for me is a true champion defining quality, the ability to rise above an occasion with your back firmly pressed against the wall.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

No to JT. Yes to GI and Smith.

 

[stormbati]

I never saw Wally play but if he's better than JT than f**k he must've been good!

Again, Same with Smith, if theres a better hooker that played for QLD than I have no idea who he is.

GI is a freak player and Slater too so if theres been better for QLD then they must have been special.

 

[MightyBronco]

JT is da man. And he isnt finished yet.

Surely he has set up more tries in Origin than any other player.