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The Las Vegas Thread

Wb1234

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Going to a hull derby is one of my best rugby league experiences

23k screaming dirty Yorkshiremen make way more noise than 83k at origin

saints Wigan is on par with it but not a true derby
 

The_Wookie

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No that's not true

They still release the traditional average audience, they just rank the programs based on reach

While average audience numbers will still be available, OzTAM will rank the data in its new VOZ Total TV reports by the national reach of the programs.



Ok

yes they will release the average. It currently does not include Foxtel and Kayo.

In most cases I would think the rankings of reach and average audience would be the same. Something like the SB which provides a lot of casual curiosity in this market would be an exception.

You would think wrong, especially when it comes to sport.

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The following is part of this article (source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/5860423cb40eac143c1e2fe26fc8791f) written by James Hooper (shudder.....) -

VEGAS PUSH GETS BIG TICK

ONE of the greatest administrators rugby league has ever seen – Kangaroos and Eastern Suburbs forward John Quayle – once famously coined the phrase if you build a fence around it you’ll never get out of your own backyard.

Quayle, who now lives a quiet life working on a farm in the Hunter Valley running cattle and a vineyard, has thrown his full support behind the NRL’s foray into opening the new rugby league season in the entertainment capital of the world Las Vegas.

Forget the narcs trying to shoot poison darts out of the long grass about how the Viva Las Vegas experiment won’t work, Quayle has seen it all before through the introduction of State of Origin, the expansion of the NSW Rugby League in 1988 and the hugely-successful marketing campaign where Tina Turner became the face of rugby league.

“The thing that impresses me the most about the Las Vegas vision is it’s an on-going commitment from the NRL,” Quayle told Fox League.

“When we went to America almost 40 years ago our goal was a similar one in that we wanted to try and open the game up to a new audience.

“But the difference was back then in terms of television audience there was only really ESPN that you could aim to do business with.

“Now in the modern world there’s so many different forms of revenue you can try and open up.

“The fact it’s being shown live into Fox Sports in America is an enormous coup for the game.

“To stage the opening of the new season in one of the greatest stadiums in the world it truly is a wonderful thing the league has done.”

For the first time in NRL history the opening game of the 2024 season between Manly and South Sydney will be shown live and exclusively on Fox League on Sunday March 3 (AEST).

Like anything new in rugby league there’s always going to be detractors when it comes to making major changes.

The Vegas experiment is no question a roll of the dice and plenty of figures within the game have been openly criticising the timing and strategy of the move.

Quayle simply points to the success of State of Origin, the Tina Turner advertising campaign and the expansion of the old NSWRL competition as examples of why the critics can often get it wrong.

“There’s always going to be critics but if we’d listened to the critics back in our day then we never would have expanded the competition outside of NSW,” Quayle said.

“We wouldn’t have gone to Brisbane, North Queensland, Melbourne or New Zealand and we certainly wouldn’t have taken State of Origin interstate.

“It’s not a bold experiment in my view it’s the next step in terms of the development of the game.

“Back in the 1980s and 1990s it was Kangaroo Tours – now in the modern world it’s the opening of the new season in the entertainment capital of the world.

“It’s going to be a history-making event for rugby league.”

It's almost like John Quayle is responding to PR :)
 

taste2taste

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‘It’s 50 times the opportunity’: Why the NRL believes its Vegas gamble makes business sense​

Adrian Proszenko

ByAdrian Proszenko

February 18, 2024 — 5.00am
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For more than half an hour, Andrew Abdo has been talking about Las Vegas.
We are sitting in his office in Moore Park, where the National Rugby League chief executive is articulating plans of scale and ambition beyond anything ever attempted in Australian sport. In just over a fortnight, a double-header will be staged at Allegiant Stadium, the venue that recently hosted the Super Bowl, featuring matches between the Rabbitohs and Sea Eagles, as well as the Roosters and Broncos.



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It will mark the first time that competition games, save for those played in New Zealand, have ever been staged outside of Australia. It is the most concerted effort for rugby league to expand beyond the eastern seaboard, where it is predominantly played and followed, into a potentially lucrative new market.
It is then that Abdo provides a glimpse into just how profitable the Vegas venture could be.
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“The size of the market and the size of the economy is just so big,” Abdo says. “To put that in perspective, Australia – by GDP and by population – would be the equivalent of one of the big states in America. And there’s 50 of them.
“So it’s 50 times the opportunity.”
NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo poses with an American-themed football ahead of the historic season-opening games in Las Vegas.

NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo poses with an American-themed football ahead of the historic season-opening games in Las Vegas. CREDIT:GREGG PORTEOUS, NRL PHOTOS
As ever, the greater the risk, the greater the reward. The NRL has thrown all of its chips in with its Vegas gamble, committing to playing games in Sin City for five years, until at least the end of 2028. Allowing for start-up costs, the governing body is budgeting for a small loss in the opening year, in the hope of significant returns in subsequent seasons.
Only a few years ago, the NRL was spending as much as $1.2 million on season launches. Little more than that will be required to fund the overall cost of heading to Vegas on March 3 [US time] for the first time.

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“It’s not going to be an overnight success,” Abdo says. “If it was that easy, everyone would have done it.”

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Indeed, rugby league’s greatest competitor, the AFL, has long been eyeing off the American market. Finding a suitable oval stadium has been an insurmountable obstacle to date. Even the NRL had to compromise in opting for the 65,000-seat Allegiant Stadium. Known as The Death Star, the home of the Las Vegas Raiders is five metres narrower than a standard rugby league field. It’s a pointer to the countless logistical challenges that have been presented.
The payoff could well be worth it. Late last year, in a briefing to the 17 clubs, Abdo predicted the league could be making $60 million over five years from broadcasting into living rooms across the United States.
“The point I was making in that conversation is at the moment we get a certain amount of revenue from international broadcast rights,” Abdo explains. “It’s a fraction of what we believe is possible. There’s only so much revenue you can generate from a domestic market.”
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taste2taste

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Going prime time

The double-header will be broadcast on Fox Sports 1 in America for the first time. The exposure, prime time on a Saturday night, will showcase “The Greatest Game of All” to a new audience in the tens of millions. Negotiations are ongoing to have the network show additional matches throughout the season.
“Who knows what the next broadcast rights deal looks like?” Abdo says. “Whether or not we decide to have a joint-venture model whereby we are partners in driving subscriptions or whether or not we decide to carve out markets independently as we do currently for Australia and New Zealand.
The NRL kicks off the season with a double-header in Las Vegas in March.

The NRL kicks off the season with a double-header in Las Vegas in March.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS
“The way everything is sliced and diced is pretty dynamic. The good news is the commission has options.
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“Chances are, if you go back in time, that the broadcast rights deal will be done before the end of the [current] cycle.
“So the stronger position we’re in early in the cycle, the more negotiation and leverage we’re going to have to capitalise on a good deal midway through or towards the end of the cycle, not at the end of five years.”

Leveraging the app

It was a broadcast conversation four years ago that indirectly steered the NRL to Las Vegas. Abdo and Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys pitched rugby league to heavyweights at content giants including Amazon and Facebook. The multinationals were not receptive.
“Every time we said that our population is 26 million, they looked at us with a deep stare and said ‘Why are you here? There are 40 million in California, your market is minute,’” V’landys recalls.
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“They were right and it made me think. America has 340 million people and we have this great asset called Watch NRL and sports wagering has absolutely exploded in the states.”
The Watch NRL app provides fans outside of Australia and New Zealand access to all men’s and women’s competition games, as well as marquee representative matches such as State of Origin. The cost to Americans is $US169 ($AU229) a year and only 3000 have subscribed.
“If we can get 1 per cent over five years, that’s 34 million people,” V’landys says. “You times that by $US169, that’s around $577 million. Even if we were to get half of that, that’s more than $250 million.
“There are 300,000 Australians living in the US. Even if we got half of those, that’s an extra $25 million. It’s huge.”

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At a time when there is a tightening of restrictions on sports wagering in Australia, they are being loosened in the United States. According to American Gaming Association research, a record 68 million Americans – or 26 per cent of the population – wagered $23.1 billion on Super Bowl LVIII. That is an increase of 35 per cent on estimates for the previous year, and the numbers are expected to continue climbing.
Super Bowl LVIII was a betting bonanza.

Super Bowl LVIII was a betting bonanza.CREDIT:AP
The NRL has made no secret of its ambition to cash in. “Sports wagering is being deregulated in America so rapidly and because it’s becoming such a great way to engage with fans in America, sports fans are embracing the opportunity to bet on matches,” Abdo says. “This is a great avenue where wagering operators will be able to showcase our sport amongst all the other sports that they run a market on, to US fans.
“This is a great avenue to acquire fans.”
The NRL hasn’t yet settled on a sports wagering partner in the United States. One option is to sign an exclusive arrangement that results in the operator streaming games to punters. Another is to partner with several bookmakers, who would provide odds on matches.
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Allegiant Stadium has a capacity of 65,000. To date, 27,000 tickets have been sold. About half of those have been to Australian fans embarking on the ultimate footy trip. A further 10,000 have been snapped up by Americans (prices start from $US19) and the rest have been taken up by other international travellers. A sellout is unlikely.
Andrew Abdo at an NRL promotion at Allegiant Stadium in December.

Andrew Abdo at an NRL promotion at Allegiant Stadium in December.CREDIT:GETTY
“It’s not the marker for success though for this project,” Abdo says. “The marker for success is how interested we can get US fans in following our sport throughout the season over the next couple of years.
“Obviously, we want to start with a bang. Anything that gets us deep into 30,000-40,000, that’s going to be a great atmosphere. That is going to be a hook that brings people back year in year out.”
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Sponsorship opportunities

Neither the NRL or its clubs have jagged a major sponsor to date as a direct result of the Vegas voyage. However, the NRL has been able to keep costs down through a raft of partnerships. The Las Vegas Tourism Authority has invested, and deals have been brokered with hotel, travel and flight partners.

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“Those were bought off plan,” Abdo says. “They are people who believe in our game and have come forward with significant investment.
“We have a number of Australian multinationals and Australian sponsors that are interested in growing their products in America. This provides them with a unique opportunity to do that. But equally what a great opportunity for our clubs to think about foreign investment from a sponsorship and from a membership perspective.”
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