The Las Vegas Thread

[i0Nic]

Rugby League will never ever make a decent dent in the American sporting scene. Not in a country already saturated with NFL, NBA, Baseball and Hockey..

By all means keep coming to Vegas for Rd1 and bring in a couple English teams (or Catalan) etc. It’s a great concept. I hope to go one day (so I can infiltrate Area 51 lol) The Missus would love a few days in Vegas.

But don’t ever think rugby league (or the other code for that matter) will ever be even semi-big in the USofA!!

What don’t you guys understand that the point isn’t to make rugby league ‘big’ or ‘semi big’ or even ‘slightly big’ there. It’s to take even a tiny 1% of the market which would be massive revenue for NRL. And with the right approach it is possible.

 

[wittyfan]

The addition of the Super League game was a masterstroke.

 

[nko11]

What don’t you guys understand that the point isn’t to make rugby league ‘big’ or ‘semi big’ or even ‘slightly big’ there. It’s to take even a tiny 1% of the market which would be massive revenue for NRL. And with the right approach it is possible.

I don't think anyone ever thought that except for the manically optimistic or media looking to sell a story.

Look no further than NRL fans themselves for what the model should look like. How many follow an NFL team in the off season. There's enough similarities that although it may not be your preferred choice, still similar enough to enjoy. A couple of US based players and you would would make it easier to market, similar to Jordan Mailata.

If you even got half the proportion of NFL fans to tune into NRL, as NRL fans that tune into the NFL. Going to be a massive amount of extra interest.

 

[Perth Red]

What don’t you guys understand that the point isn’t to make rugby league ‘big’ or ‘semi big’ or even ‘slightly big’ there. It’s to take even a tiny 1% of the market which would be massive revenue for NRL. And with the right approach it is possible.

Soccer hasnt been able to take 1% of the market and its a world game with a sht load more money, clubs, jnrs and profile than RL will ever have in USA. But hey sure its good to have ambitions.

 

[Wb1234]

Soccer hasnt been able to take 1% of the market and its a world game with a sht load more money, clubs, jnrs and profile than RL will ever have in USA. But hey sure its good to have ambitions.

Mls teams are worth 500 million plus

They are hosting a soccer World Cup

Major League Soccer’s Most Valuable Teams 2024

Lionel Messi’s arrival at Inter Miami last season created MLS’s second billion-dollar franchise—but they’re still not No. 1.

www.forbes.com

Average team is actually worth 643 million

Tv deal is worth 250 million pa

Plus potential for revenue sharing if revenues grow

 

[Perth Red]

Mls teams are worth 500 million plus

They are hosting a soccer World Cup

Major League Soccer’s Most Valuable Teams 2024

Lionel Messi’s arrival at Inter Miami last season created MLS’s second billion-dollar franchise—but they’re still not No. 1.

www.forbes.com

Average team is actually worth 643 million

Tv deal is worth 250 million pa

Plus potential for revenue sharing if revenues grow

And what is that as a % of overall USA sports values?
Like I said soccer has been at it decades, is a world game, has a massive jnr base and a prof league with very rich and famous backers for many years. Come back to me in 30 years and let me know if NRL has managed to crack it with one showcase event a year in Vegas lol
Have we even got the USA semi pro league up and running yet that was supposed to be launched last year?

 

[Wb1234]

And what is that as a % of overall USA sports values?
Like I said soccer has been at it decades, is a world game, has a massive jnr base and a prof league for many years. Come back to me in 30 years and let me know if NRL has managed to crack it with one showcase event a year in Vegas lol

Vegas will make a healthy profit for the nrl as an event game

All the other benefits which are many are a bonus

Nobody is saying rugby league will be a serious player in America

But it might help the league in America and Canada develop

Even if they just increase subscriptions to watch nrl by a few thousand Americans a year that’s a good thing

 

[i0Nic]

Soccer hasnt been able to take 1% of the market and its a world game with a sht load more money, clubs, jnrs and profile than RL will ever have in USA. But hey sure its good to have ambitions.

You’re underestimating the size of the US market. MLS is triple the size of the NRL in terms of revenue. They average 24,000 a game. Even considering their ‘tiny’ support as you state in comparison to the big sports there.

If NRL could be a quarter as big in the US as major league soccer that would be massive.

While Soccer has its global appeal to build leverage, NRL has the advantage of being a similar game to the biggest sport in the US to leverage. Making it easier for fans to understand and get into the game, and easier for players to transition to the sport.

If we could grow a small niche and help build the sport in the US, grow player development especially targeting college players that don’t make NFL teams, attract NFL fans during their offseason, that would be massive. To go from zero profile to a tiny profile in the US would be a win. A small wave of support in the US would be a tsunami in Australia.

 

[ACTPanthers]

And what is that as a % of overall USA sports values?
Like I said soccer has been at it decades, is a world game, has a massive jnr base and a prof league with very rich and famous backers for many years. Come back to me in 30 years and let me know if NRL has managed to crack it with one showcase event a year in Vegas lol
Have we even got the USA semi pro league up and running yet that was supposed to be launched last year?

This is taking being a pessimist to an absurdly high level...

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

All the other benefits which are many are a bonus

The Nines could turn into a massive event on its` own attracting both League and union clubs worldwide. And all of whom will of course, with their entourages, be attending the main event as well.
I`m hoping they can pull off the tailgate event before this year`s game, that could really be something else as well.

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

Any Australian sports fan knows that the NFL and CFL are similar but different sports. I know Americans generally aren't that bright but they'll easily be educated

Hahah, you have missed the point…. Then you accidentally PROVED the point!!

NFL and CFL are visually almost identical (IIRC the only distinction is metric vs imperial measurements).

but is a single sentence, you were able to communicate that they are different things and given a way for them to search it (the only people who cant tell the difference between NFL and CFL are dyslexic or geniused)

Now imagine the comps wer actually Football League and Football Union. If you try to tell us that you immediately know these are different sports, youre a f**king liar.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Hahah, you have missed the point…. Then you accidentally PROVED the point!!

NFL and CFL are visually almost identical (IIRC the only distinction is metric vs imperial measurements).

but is a single sentence, you were able to communicate that they are different things and given a way for them to search it (the only people who cant tell the difference between NFL and CFL are dyslexic or geniused)

Now imagine the comps wer actually Football League and Football Union. If you try to tell us that you immediately know these are different sports, youre a f**king liar.

Yes I'm not a tard like you. The sports are clearly different

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

I can see how my post was slightly unclear. It was a response to people searching for rugby America and not getting info on the NRL. My point was that if you search Rugby and then any of the other words you do get info on league, and that is what people are likely to search for if they spend 2 hours watching the game.

The is EXACTLY the problem…

any intelligent company would provide a single unique name to search for.

As you say, the current brand is confusing and needs the new person to try to find other key words to search with.

What happens when they get it wrong?

“Football Australia” no
“Rugby Australia” maybe
“Vegas Raiders” hahaha

Find a single other brand on earth that is knowingly confusing that isnt just a shitty chinese knock-off

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

That's not remotely close to what I said at all. The people that aren't interested enough to google and find out there aren't two types of Rugby are probably not interested in either code and maybe not sport at all.

I can guarantee you that true sports fans in Vic, SA, WA and TAS even if they don't like the NRL know enough to understand there are two types of Rugby.

Those interested enough to go searching are the market we want to target.

Except why do these people assume that there are multiple “Rugbys”?

“I play American Football”
“Ahhh like NFL!”
“Oh no, the other American Football”
“????”
“You see, in 1870….”
“Im bored”

 

[Vlad59]

Except why do these people assume that there are multiple “Rugbys”?

“I play American Football”
“Ahhh like NFL!”
“Oh no, the other American Football”
“????”
“You see, in 1870….”
“Im bored”

NRL. That’s it.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

The is EXACTLY the problem…

any intelligent company would provide a single unique name to search for.

As you say, the current brand is confusing and needs the new person to try to find other key words to search with.

What happens when they get it wrong?

“Football Australia” no
“Rugby Australia” maybe
“Vegas Raiders” hahaha

Find a single other brand on earth that is knowingly confusing that isnt just a shitty chinese knock-off

Isn’t the single unique name NRL?

 

[Wb1234]

America is bidding for the 2030 rlwc

 

[Vlad59]

America is bidding for the 2030 rlwc

Cool story bro

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

NRL. That’s it.

Isn’t the single unique name NRL?

NRL Football as a sports brand is great!!

(It doesnt make sense, but that didnt stop us with “rugby league”)

problem is that the brand cant/wont be used more widely at the junior/development level

if we commit to NRL in the same way MMA did. We’d be set….