The NRL neglects the Central Coast.......

[sharkadelic]

And of course it had good atmosphere. This is futbal not eggball.

That is pretty witty. Eggball. hahah. Because obviously in soccer, the ball is shaped like a foot....:roll:

 

[sharkadelic]

$8M is much better than the $3M that HAC and Maximus are offering for Souths.

Why don't the members vote on that one as an option as well?

Vote 1 George and his usual Leagues Club grant of $0
Vote 2 $3M Maximus 75% stake
Vote 3 $8M NRL grant to relocate to CC and the members retain 100%

I personally support the Bears getting their own bite at the cherry. But DJ's suggestion makes damn good sense if the Bear-y tale never eventuates....

 

[Schillaci]

but with league... its all about going to the football with your family on sunday afternoon... sitting on the hill with your family eating a meat pie, drinking your beer and cheering your team on...

Some nice policemen handing some men a beer and meat pie

Bulldogs fans having a sausage sizzle behind the grandstand

The National Rugby League is contemplating the unthinkable in Australian sport - it may segregate crowds to stop a wave of violence.

In recent months, groups of thugs have disrupted rugby league games involving the Canterbury Bulldogs. Trashing trains, throwing bottles on the field and brawling with other supporters.

The matter came to a head on Friday night when police evicted 20 people from a game, and later arrested six during a violent spree. One police officer was taken to hospital after being hit in the face with a full can of soft drink.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s281623.htm

 

[sharkadelic]

Pfft. look up some over seas soccer stories. My girlfriend is European and will never go to soccer match due to a riot and stampede that killed her best friend.

Or maybe the Croatian vs Macedonia soccer game (I think it was two of those teams) in Sydney that they had to contemplate playing to an empty stadium cos the supporters had tried to kill each other at previous matches. Nice family atmosphere....

 

[littleduck]

and look what has happened now.. :shock:


http://www.marinators.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=5

The locals, insulted by the embarrassingly half-hearted Northern Eagles franchise, have completely turned and gotten into a rival code, despite the area's ruch history and junior problem in the game of rugby league.

I'm not anti rugby league guys, so don't call me an AFL/futbol troll OK. I can only shake my head at how poorly the game of rugby league is run at the top level.

If you lose a stronghold area like the Central Coast to futbol thanks to the Mariners, then The NRL & News Limited only have themselves to blame.

Seriously, these images of passion for futbol in Gosford FFS. As a huge futbol fan I'm naturaly shocked stunned and elated that the Coasties have bonded so much with the Mariners, after initial reluctance to get involved.

The Central Coast is a proud area. They like to consider themselve a society distinct from either Newcastle or Sydney. I can only shake my head in complete bemusement that they have turned to the World game to find an avenue to actually conceptualise that notion of Central Coast community pride that was obviously so lacking when the Eagles played up there.

How do you react to these images of Gosford decked out in Mariners Blue & Gold as rugby league fans? Rage? Sadness? Embarrassment? Are do those of you who live on the Coast not really mind, and want to get behind the Mariners in any case?

Am just interested in how you all react to the images you see on that URL.

JF

If the Central Coast is so bl00dy important then why didn't they have their own team 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 years ago????????? The Central Coast is tradtional RL heartland without ever having a team in the NSWRL or ARL or SL or NRL. I don't see the Central Coast going backwards now on the basis of not having something they've never had in the past. That's silliness.

 

[Timmah]

:lol: 17,000 is great.... :lol:

Tonights trial is expected to get 10k in... for a TRIAL!

I guarantee, and will bet my house on the fact that if the NRL were to put a team here, and they reached a home semi - CCS would be sold out over a week before the game. The Borinators couldn't even fill the stadium. Soccer isn't what the coast wants, we want league!

 

[JF_Henson_Hill]

The NRL are also neglecting Tamworth. They also don't have a team in the comp. The AFL are neglecting Tasmania.

Just because an area doesn't have a team in the national comp doesn't mean that area will reject the sport. The Central Coast is league land.

Yes, it still is. It has traditionally been a league stronghold.

But let's look at the situation in 10-15 years. That way the Mariners will have been able to develop long-standing relationships with not only the local juniors in the area but the community. If there is no RL team for the local kids to look up to, how many rugby league players will be lost to futbol?

The NRL have pretty much murdered the development of RL in WestOz etc etc From a RL perspective I think Gold Coast is a must, because not only are the Broncos completely on the nose but the aea is developing as a likely place for growth and development for AFL.

If the NRL can help secure the long term future of one of its heartland areas because of sheer mismanagement, I think a lot of people who have given a lot of time and effort in local RL will feel pretty pissed off, don't you think.

As one guy said in this thread, "if that is how they follow a 'soccer' side, what would they be like with their OWN RL side"

I guess the people up there are just kicking themselves that the Central Coast Bears never moved up from North Sydney before the SL war came about.

JF

 

[JF_Henson_Hill]

Another stupid thread. Started by troll who has issues with Rugby League.

Then why have so many people felt it necessary to reply then SmartArse?! :roll:
Yes, I have HUGE issues with the people who run the NRL. Can go into greater detail in you would like me to (at risk of boring everyone else on this forum).

When alnother sport can get a foothold in an an area that is considered a stronghold, then there is the risk that in the future that that stronghold may not be as rich a nursery as it once was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the image I have of RL administration these days is of reacting after the event.

Still it is only early days for the A-League now. But let's look at how things may well be in 10 years time. If they said back in the early 90s that the Swans would be drawing 72000 crowds in NSW within 10 years, I'd have had them locked up.

The sporting envirnoment in this country is changing like NEVER before. Union in WA, AFL continuing to grow in Brisbane and Sydney, the A League's success in its initial season.

By just sitting back and saying that the CC is "league territory" is rather foolish don't you think?

JF

 

[Timmah]

Then why have so many people felt it necessary to reply then SmartArse?! :roll:
Yes, I have HUGE issues with the people who run the NRL. Can go into greater detail in you would like me to (at risk of boring everyone else on this forum).

When alnother sport can get a foothold in an an area that is considered a stronghold, then there is the risk that in the future that that stronghold may not be as rich a nursery as it once was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the image I have of RL administration these days is of reacting after the event.

Still it is only early days for the A-League now. But let's look at how things may well be in 10 years time. If they said back in the early 90s that the Swans would be drawing 72000 crowds in NSW within 10 years, I'd have had them locked up.

The sporting envirnoment in this country is changing like NEVER before. Union in WA, AFL continuing to grow in Brisbane and Sydney, the A League's success in its initial season.

By just sitting back and saying that the CC is "league territory" is rather foolish don't you think?

JF

I'm sorry, how often do the Swans get 72k to the SCG?

:|

 

[Green Machine]

Then why have so many people felt it necessary to reply then SmartArse?! :roll:

If you had read most of the posts dipstick, you would have seen this debate has deteriorated into the usual Central Coast V the Gold Coast debate. It is one group of supporters arguing why one area would not support a permanent NRL team, to justify why their area should have got an NRL licence. Also, with the occasional soccer girl dreaming of grandeur in Australia

Yes, I have HUGE issues with the people who run the NRL. Can go into greater detail in you would like me to (at risk of boring everyone else on this forum).

Most of the garbage you post is boring, so why would it be any different. I think the NRL do an OK job, but there is room for improvement.

When alnother sport can get a foothold in an an area that is considered a stronghold, then there is the risk that in the future that that stronghold may not be as rich a nursery as it once was.

Would a case in point be, after the AFL throwing endless amounts of money into Sydney AFL junior development and with the Swans now not being able to produce a player for the national draft, as a sign of the AFL gaining a foothold in Sydney?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the image I have of RL administration these days is of reacting after the event.

It has been in the past. I think in the last 2 seasons they have picked up their act, but I still think there is room for improvement. I don’t see any waves coming out of the AFL wanting to expand past 16 teams. I don’t hear the AFL say they want to go to 18 with another two teams in West Sydney and on the Gold Coast.

Still it is only early days for the A-League now.

What kind of TV contract is the A League on? Is it true that A League Clubs will accrue debts of over $3m in the first season? Will this be ongoing?

But let's look at how things may well be in 10 years time. If they said back in the early 90s that the Swans would be drawing 72000 crowds in NSW within 10 years, I'd have had them locked up.

Why would that be so? I can remember big crowds at the SCG in the late 70’s for VFL exhibition games. I can remember big crowds for the Swans in 1986-87,

The sporting envirnoment in this country is changing like NEVER before.

According to who?

Union in WA,

Union is the size of a pimple on the sporting arse in WA, compared to Australian Rules. If the ARU had any balls they would have put another team in the Eastern States and taken on the NRL. If the ARU had any balls, they would start a national club competition, instead of talking about it. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Farce’s crowds if they continue to lose. By the way, what kind of FTA coverage dose the Farce get in WA?

AFL continuing to grow in Brisbane and Sydney, the A League's success in its initial season.

Dipstick, you are starting to repeat yourself

By just sitting back and saying that the CC is "league territory" is rather foolish don't you think?

JF

According to you? The people who commute up and down the F3 each day are no different the people who commute up and down the M4 or M5 each day. I don’t know if you are aware, but the Central Coast has some pretty strong Rugby League Clubs that play in either the Jim Beam Cup or the Newcastle premiership. As I said before, you have issues with Rugby League and I am quite happy if wankers like you never darken our door step again,

 

[ozzy_ozman]

Some nice policemen handing some men a beer and meat pie

Bulldogs fans having a sausage sizzle behind the grandstand



http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s281623.htm

does Hillsborough and Heysal ring a bell to ya?

Hillsborough... 96 scousers died when the stadium collapsed...

Heysal... quite a lot of juventus fans died when watching the CL final in 86

Or what about the event in south africa not to long ago? 100s of fans died when the stadium overpacked...

oh there is so much more i could say about football events around the world...

 

[doctor death]

Several points to remember when looking at the CC Bears>


the Bears were never broke or likely to be. The Leagues Club was the major creditor and subsequently put many millions into the Nothern Eagles.

Many people actively forced a wedge between CC and North Sydney. One bloke was the head of the CRL at the time - who also happened to be the chairman of the Gold Coast!

The NRL refuses, with no reasons, to contemplate a CC Bears team but will pay mllions for a relocation. I'm tired of the "too many teams in NSW" crap because there is ni substance to it - it is simpy a News Limited mantra taken up by idiots. This is disgraceful.

Every genuine rugby league supporter (if you really care about integrity of the game and its tradition) should be shouting out to the NRL: "How can you allow a traditional club to be treated this way and what are you going to do about it?"

Remember - they did it to the Bears. What makes you think your club is not next in line?

 

[eelandia]

By just sitting back and saying that the CC is "league territory" is rather foolish don't you think?

JF

How about you have the CC in Summer when most people are lying on the beach or watching Cricket, and League can have the CC in winter when the physical body contact sports are played..?? How many teams from the CC are in the Jim Beam Cup..?? Quite a few from memory....now that is grassroots soccer could only dream of having.

*********

 

[iggy plop]

Yes, it still is. It has traditionally been a league stronghold.

But let's look at the situation in 10-15 years. That way the Mariners will have been able to develop long-standing relationships with not only the local juniors in the area but the community. If there is no RL team for the local kids to look up to, how many rugby league players will be lost to futbol?

JF

You could say that of many towns. Truth is, we can't have every rugby league town represented in the NRL. Just like we can't have every AFL town represented in the AFL. Simple mathematics. Local Central Coast kids will continue to support their current NRL team in the winter and the Mariners or whatever else they follow in the summer.

 

[iggy plop]

Then why have so many people felt it necessary to reply then SmartArse?! :roll:

Still it is only early days for the A-League now. But let's look at how things may well be in 10 years time. If they said back in the early 90s that the Swans would be drawing 72000 crowds in NSW within 10 years, I'd have had them locked up.

JF

Lock 'em up with the same people who thought league couldn't draw 87,000 to a game in Melbourne hey?

Then why have so many people felt it necessary to reply then SmartArse?! :roll:

JF

Yeah, but you're still a troll with massive rugby league issues. Green Machine is correct.

Still, 114 replies so far so pats on the back to you Jules.

 

[doctor death]

You could say that of many towns. Truth is, we can't have every rugby league town represented in the NRL. Just like we can't have every AFL town represented in the AFL. Simple mathematics. Local Central Coast kids will continue to support their current NRL team in the winter and the Mariners or whatever else they follow in the summer.

The CC Bears wuld represent CC AND the north shore of Sydney. The Bears still play premier league and down. Why won't the NRL give us a chance?

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Because the bears are gone.

And they aint commin back!

 

[Special K]

How many teams from the CC are in the Jim Beam Cup..?? Quite a few from memory....now that is grassroots soccer could only dream of having.

Two.

Woy Woy and Ourimbah are no longer part of the Jim Beam Cup.

 

[Barney_Gumble]

The Central Coast is a proud area. They like to consider themselve a society distinct from either Newcastle or Sydney. I can only shake my head in complete bemusement that they have turned to the World game to find an avenue to actually conceptualise that notion of Central Coast community pride that was obviously so lacking when the Eagles played up there.

How do you react to these images of Gosford decked out in Mariners Blue & Gold as rugby league fans? Rage? Sadness? Embarrassment? Are do those of you who live on the Coast not really mind, and want to get behind the Mariners in any case?

 

[cumberlandsashes81]

(Don't forget Central Coast Rip in the Jersey Flegg as well.)

Two Central Coast clubs in the Jim Beam Cup (originally there were four - Woy Woy Roosters and Ourimbah Maggies dropped out along the way).

These clubs didn't last the distance in the JBC not because RL is weak on the Central Coast (far from it) but mainly because of the player eligibility requirements that made competing in the JBC a less attractive option (yet still expensive) to playing in their own CRL competitions.

The CC clubs competing in the JBC were unable to sign ex-NRL players due to those players not being eligible to play in the competition. The reality is clubs on the Central Coast (and in the Newcastle and Illawarra Comps) are littered with ex-NRL players such as Robbie O'Davis (Macquarie Scorpions), Justin Ryder, Jason King and Jason Ferris (Wyong Roos) - they love having these players for their clubs. In the JBC they didn't have this option and so they lost enthusiasm for the concept not believing the JBC was up to the standard of their own competition and wasn't worth the investment.

RL is alive and well on the Central Coast - just because there isn't an NRL team there dosen't mean the people have lost their passion for it and turned to other codes.