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The real reason Ben Barba is heading north

Packy

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ek999

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Why did the media only publish the photo now? I just can't work out why now and not then? Particularly the DT... couldn't care less about our game.

Senior Bulldogs officials have confirmed the woman made the complaint on Sunday February 24.

May not have had this until now
 

El Diablo

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5 idiots have ignored this

just remember he has not been found guilty of anything and the original article clearly states

The Sunday Telegraph does not claim the alleged punch occurred.

so any more idiots who keep up the unsubstantiated allegations will join the other 5

OK gents this thread is causing our moderators alot of work so if anyone posts any further unsubstantiated allegation they will be given a holiday as we dont have time to sit on this thread all day.

You have been warned.
 

franklin2323

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The only problem I can see is not informing the NRL of the full details. They took action against him, stood him down and even tried to give him professional help plus they took the girl to the police to make a formal complaint but she didn't want to. Sure they may have lied to the media about why he was being stood down but they couldn't publically say anything because the girl would have denied it anyway.

This. Though poor form to 'leak' it AFTER he's left
 

El Diablo

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Pierced Soul

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Do you think the story would of leaked if Barba was gonna stay at the Bulldogs next year?

Do you think the Bulldogs leaked the story because they are bitter at Barba for leaving?

1. not from the dogs end it wouldnt have leaked
2. yes and they're merkins

Now what? Keep investigating?

yep. only way the cops do their job half the time is from media pressure. they re-opened the te'o thing cos it got into the media


At least with Another Queenslander Souths informed the league straight away. The dogs have spun this deluxe and if proven true the appointment of Toddy may even be questioned.

i dont think soufs told the nrl until that one got out as well.....

May not have had this until now

if this pic was "circulating" do you really think the tabloids never had it?
I hadnt heard about it or seen it but i'm not in the nrl gossip circles/twitter/facebook whatever the f**k kids are using these days. but the journo's all seem to be aware of stuff. they had the monoghan dog pic, they had george burgess selfie...

the dogs are in trouble for not reporting this to the NRL. regardless of whether the integrity unit was there or not there's an onus on them to have informed the nrl if they knew of the alleged events.

it's even scummier if they've known about this, have essentially sold barba onto the broncos without the broncos knowing so thta it blows up whilst he's the broncos problem and not theirs.

from a legal perspective they have no obligation to go to the cops with this. even if they advised her not to go i dont think there's any legal ramifications in any way for them
 
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ek999

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The NRL's integrity unit will investigate whether senior Canterbury officials covered up domestic violence allegations against star fullback Ben Barba earlier this year.
The NRL announced an independent review of the Bulldogs' actions in relation to the decision to stand down Barba at the start of the season following the publication of a ''deeply disturbing'' photo of a woman - understood to be Barba's ex-partner Ainslee Currie - with facial injuries.
Currie, who has two children with Barba, took the pre-emptive step on Saturday of issuing a statement through her lawyer to deny she was the victim of domestic violence during their relationship.
NRL officials said at no stage had they previously seen the published image or been aware of any injuries suffered as a result of physical abuse by Barba, who last week signed a three-year deal with Brisbane after successfully seeking a release from the Bulldogs so he could live closer to Currie and their children.
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It has been alleged that Currie approached the Bulldogs on February 24 - the day before the club announced that Barba had been stood down to deal with personal issues relating to their break-up - and Canterbury chief executive Todd Greenberg and coach Des Hasler encouraged her to go to the police.
Currie is understood to have been concerned about the welfare of Barba, who had counselling for 17 days at a Sydney rehabilitation clinic before being able to rejoin his teammates for training.
Greenberg is now the NRL’s head of football but Fairfax Media was told he would not be involved in the investigation. The NRL said Canterbury officials openly supported the review after calling for the integrity unit to investigate the domestic violence allegations against Barba in News Ltd newspapers on Sunday. The Bulldogs did so in a press release issued at 7.20am Sunday.
However, there are concerns within the Bulldogs that such a detailed account of the story could only have come from Canterbury insiders angered by the 2012 Dally M medal winner’s decision to quit the club with two years remaining on his contract.
If so, the move may have backfired as the focus is now on the way the club dealt with Barba and Fairfax Media understands that the NRL was never told by the Bulldogs about any domestic violence allegations against him.
News Ltd is understood to have been in possession of the photo for months but had refrained from publishing it until now, despite a female reporter referring to it in an article during the NRL’s Women in League round in May.
Greenberg had been repeatedly asked about the allegations both on and off the record since the shock announcement to stand down Barba on February 25, but denied it was one of the issues that led to the club taking such drastic action.
Asked at the press conference that day if the issue related to violence by Barba against any member of his family, Greenberg said: ‘‘This is an issue we are dealing with under the code of conduct of the club. If you walk the wring way and we are not happy about it, under our code of conduct we can come down heavily on players because we have very high standards."
Currie’s lawyer, Campbell MacCallum, said in a statement issued to Fairfax Media on Saturday: ‘‘ ... Ms Currie wishes to place on record for the final time that there has never been physical violence in the relationship and that the allegations that have been put to her by various media commentators are incorrect.’’

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-over-barba-20130901-2sz1m.html#ixzz2dhPpDxGQ

I had a post linking to the article referred to in the bold bit deleted already. Can that article be posted now?
 

ek999

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if this pic was "circulating" do you really think the tabloids never had it?
I hadnt heard about it or seen it but i'm not in the nrl gossip circles/twitter/facebook whatever the f**k kids are using these days. but the journo's all seem to be aware of stuff. they had the monoghan dog pic, they had george burgess selfie...

the dogs are in trouble for not reporting this to the NRL. regardless of whether the integrity unit was there or not there's an onus on them to have informed the nrl if they knew of the alleged events.

it's even scummier if they've known about this, have essentially sold barba onto the broncos without the broncos knowing so thta it blows up whilst he's the broncos problem and not theirs.

from a legal perspective they have no obligation to go to the cops with this. even if they advised her not to go i dont think there's any legal ramifications in any way for them

I've got no doubt the picture was circulating, but it can't be published with a violence allegation unless they get that allegation confirmed by someone.

Absolutely agree with the bit in bold. The NRL should have been informed of the full details even if they can't take any action so they aren't caught out by articles like this
 

El Diablo

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What I meant was that they possibly now only got some sort of quote from a Bulldogs official. They may have had the photo for months but they couldn't publish it with an allegation of violence without anything to back it up

lol

they publish bullshit stories all the time on all manner of topics

they've been sued successfully many times too. even by RL folk

eg http://www.smh.com.au/sport/panthers-take-break-as-lewis-gets-hitched-20110122-1a0i6.html

STEWART SAYS NO

BRETT STEWART is likely to knock back a lucrative offer by News Ltd to settle a defamation case. The Manly star is believed to be between $300,000 and $400,000 out of pocket after covering legal expenses. He was found not guilty of sexual assault allegations in September. It is understood the Manly fullback is holding out for a bigger payout. News recently settled another defamation matter filed by former Parramatta Eels chief executive Denis Fitzgerald.
 

Jason Maher

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An article claims that maybe something happened which is perhaps why maybe Barba was on the outs with the club in the first place. They're not saying it actually happened, but they're just going to plant enough seeds, spin enough innuendo and bait enough hooks to grab the uninformed, the uneducated and the naive.

Well played, DT.

Absolute nothing article with no proof of anything. Barba should sue them for defamation.

Nailed it. We're going to write a lengthy article going into great details on something that allegedly happened, and then bung in a one sentence disclaimer somewhere in the middle that we're not claiming it actually happened. Scum of the highest order. At least Sydneysiders and Mebournians have a Fairfax alternative. In Brisbane, we have News Very Limited trash and that's it.
 

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1. not from the dogs end it wouldnt have leaked
2. yes and they're merkins



yep. only way the cops do their job half the time is from media pressure. they re-opened the te'o thing cos it got into the media




i dont think soufs told the nrl until that one got out as well.....



if this pic was "circulating" do you really think the tabloids never had it?
I hadnt heard about it or seen it but i'm not in the nrl gossip circles/twitter/facebook whatever the f**k kids are using these days. but the journo's all seem to be aware of stuff. they had the monoghan dog pic, they had george burgess selfie...

the dogs are in trouble for not reporting this to the NRL. regardless of whether the integrity unit was there or not there's an onus on them to have informed the nrl if they knew of the alleged events.

it's even scummier if they've known about this, have essentially sold barba onto the broncos without the broncos knowing so thta it blows up whilst he's the broncos problem and not theirs.

from a legal perspective they have no obligation to go to the cops with this. even if they advised her not to go i dont think there's any legal ramifications in any way for them

Article said the Broncs were aware of the situation.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...behind-ben-barba-incident-20130902-2t01n.html

Bulldogs and NRL must reveal the truth behind Ben Barba incident

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September 2, 2013 - 1:25PM

Andrew Webster
Chief Sports Writer, The Sydney Morning Herald

COMMENT

FROM the moment Todd Greenberg was appointed as the NRL's head of football, there have been major fears in many corners of rugby league that this day would come.

When would Greenberg, the Bulldogs' former chief executive, have to answer questions about claims that Ainslie Currie had been allegedly struck by her partner Ben Barba?

The question for NRL boss Dave Smith and the ARL Commission is how they did not see this day was coming, too.

It seems we aren't being told the full story.

The Bulldogs are adamant that Currie did not make a complaint to them when she fronted Greenberg on Sunday, February 24 - the day before it was revealed publicly Barba was stood down indefinitely because of alcohol and gambling issues.

What they will say is that Currie approached them on that day with serious concerns about the welfare and mental state about Barba, the father of her two children.

This column has been told more than once by Bulldogs officials over the weekend that they informed the NRL of the issues surrounding Currie before that press conference.

NRL chief operating officer Jim Doyle said via a statement on Sunday: “We are not and have never been aware of a complaint in relation to Ben Barba”.

When I asked other NRL officials on Sunday afternoon if Greenberg had made any mention of the incident with Currie, they were adamant that they had only been made aware of the alcohol and gambling issues. Not a word about alleged domestic violence.

I asked, at various times throughout the weekend, if Greenberg had been confronted and questioned about claims of domestic violence in relation to Barba and Currie since then, and if he was aware of the photo of a woman with a bloodied face. The response was that Greenberg had repeatedly asked the couple about domestic violence and they had repeatedly denied anything untoward had occurred.

Is that where that matter should have been laid to rest? Of course not.

It was announced on February 7 that Tony Whitlam, QC, would head the NRL's Integrity Unit, long before Greenberg's appointment to his NRL position in late April, which he started on August 1.

Surely a thorough investigation around this issue that has kept Twitter and fan forums humming along all season - and the Bulldogs' and Greenberg's role in dealing with it - needed to happen during the past four months.

As a consequence, the NRL faces a major embarrassment concerning one of its senior officials.

As a consequence, the Broncos are seething about not being told about the issue surrounding their new recruit. They are also concerned, like many, about his welfare.

There were some heated negotiations behind the scenes about the story that appeared in News Corp papers, which showed the distressing image of a woman with a bloodied lip.

The Bulldogs had been trying to hose down that story late last week and thought that they had done so, with a softer story involving Barba and his family to run next weekend. When Fairfax Media and Channel 9 got wind of the impending story on Saturday, News Corp decided to publish.

If they hadn't, would the questions now being asked of Greenberg and the NRL have been raised?

Has there been a cover-up from the Bulldogs and have they withheld information about alleged domestic violence to the NRL?

And has the NRL been grossly negligent in failing to see this day was coming, when so many of us knew it would eventually arrive?
 

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