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Haran is the GM and Millard is recruitment100% we have been soft tigers bulldogs signing players for 2024 and 2025 .
Who is helping flanno with negotiations on signings no body has been hired to be the new GM
Haran is the GM and Millard is recruitment100% we have been soft tigers bulldogs signing players for 2024 and 2025 .
Who is helping flanno with negotiations on signings no body has been hired to be the new GM
Thanks for your good as usual advice OED. It's hard though to not at times get a bit uptight. That's the Dragons for you. Cheers.You are stressing again DD. Just take a few deep breaths. It can't be good for you. As the old TV ad said "It won't happen overnight, but it will happen!". Now is not the time to panic. I've said before - May 2024 is the time to panic! I really need Flano to be worthy of all the trust I am putting in him.
Whilst I don’t agree with that comparison to the PM and players like Fifita Ponga and Sualli were offered big money before hardly playing 1st gradeHere is the ultimate proof top-shelf teenage talent in the NRL doesn’t come cheap.
Despite having only one NRL starting game in the bank, boom Cowboys back rower Kulikefu Finefeuiaki is on target to land a massive pay rise that could even push him above Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s salary.
That is the conversation doing the rounds in the NRL player market as clubs headed by Shane Flanagan’s Dragons and Wayne Bennett’s Dolphins lead the charge for 19-year-old sensation.
The speculation is the rampaging Finefeuiaki could fetch offers around $600,000-a-season if he ends up going to the highest bidder as his management negotiates his new deal.
And even if the more conservative estimates are closer to the mark, they reckon on his raw talent alone it would be enough to command in the vicinity of between $450,000 and $500,000 if Finefeuiaki chases the top dollar.
To put that in perspective, the Prime Minister’s salary is listed at $587,000.
Kulikefu Finefeuiaki is a young man in demand as rivals circle the Cowboys youngster. Picture: Cowboys Media /Alix Sweeney
Another source suggested Finefeuiaki won’t get that type of money for next season, but the offers would be staggered over the term of the contract to have him on the elite money come 2026.
But with a grand total of just 333 minutes of NRL football so far, there is no disputing Finefeuiaki has already emerged as one of the most in demand forwards coming off contract at the end of 2024.
Finefeuiaki’s only starting game was against Gold Coast in round 22 this season.
But his tearaway performances off the bench have been enough to have rivals clambering for his services, although it’s fair to also say the speculated price tag has some legitimately nervous about paying that much money for a rookie with such limited experience.
While others are also watching to see if the Cowboys could be potentially forced to offload another of their exceptional back row talent to keep Finefeuiaki and the other off-contract star, Heilum Luki.
Luki, 22, is also attracting plenty of interest despite some injury setbacks, which has limited him to 13 games this year and 14 last season.
Wayne Bennett’s Dolphins have made no secret of their interest in Kulikefu Finefeuiaki. Picture: Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images
Finefeuiaki and Luki are caught up in a logjam of edge back row depth at the Cowboys, that also includes regular starters Jeremiah Nanai and Luciano Leilua, along with two highly touted youngsters in Wil Sullivan and Jamal Shibasaki.
Leilua in particular is seen as a potential target for the Canberra Raiders who are chasing an edge forward.
Not that the Cowboys at this stage are even contemplating potentially offloading any of them if they get their way.
“No. We are not looking to offload any of them,” said recruitment chief Michael Luck.
“In a perfect world we keep all of them together. They are on the right trajectory.
“The last few years I would say they have learnt some pretty valuable lessons. And they have done that as a group. I would think we will see the benefit of that over the next year or two if they all opt to stay together.”
Dragons coach Shane Flanagan is on the lookout for top-tier talent. Picture: Julian Andrews
Luck said he was not shocked by the interest in Finefeuiaki.
Kulikefu Finefeuiaki made an immediate impact in 2023 with some barnstorming performances. Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images
“He was great the games when he came off the bench. He did a really good job for us,” Luck said.
“No doubt he has got some potential.
“I’m not surprised there is plenty of interest in him.
“But we speak with him and his agent regularly about how things are going. And as I said we are very hopeful we have got the ability to keep both those guys (Finefeuiaki and Luki).”
AFB is already being paid $1M.At $1.2M, AFB would be way over the top and will inflate several other front rowers salaries. The snow balling effect will certainly raise other players salaries markedly.
The level of the current salary cap I think is $11.45M for the mandatory squad of 30 players at each club. If players like AFB, Tino, Haas etc - and there are many more in the system that you can categorise as being of those 3 players stature, and that isn't including marquee halves, centres and fullbacks, then a club willing to shell out big money to fill the spine with above average players and have a strong forwards contingent, there wouldn't be much left in the cap kitty if any at all.
When the 18th club comes in, well, I don't have any idea what salaries will be like then. The bottom 8 clubs will be scrambling to sign up good players when prices will be ridiculously high and the cap isn't adjusted accordingly.
There was a time when we had a player like Justin Poore playing for us as a front row forward, admittedly over a decade ago now and under Wayne Bennett as our coach. Poore's contract was up and he wanted more but Bennett said that he wouldn't pay a front row forward over $300K a year so Poore left us and joined Parramatta. Now we see what Bennett had decreed has somewhat taken a nose dive because several of the forwards playing nowadays have reached "star" material where in fact the big money should in my opinion be for the top players in the spine.
If AFB can get his greedy hands on a pay cheque in excess of a million dollars, then good luck to him and his managers. It might have detrimental effects for NRL pays in the future.
I reject the assertion that my pointing out there are indeed players available equates to whingingWe didn't go hard for Tracey...3 year deal... currently injured...3 acl injuries...
Imagine if we signed him...everyone would be whinging about the signing...
We don't sign him....People are whinging that we didn't sign him.
In response to the frenetic energizer bunny Gould, the Dragons have adopted a policy of masterly inactivity. Couldn't ask for a bigger contrast. Will be fascinating to see where they end up in 2024.I reject the assertion that my pointing out there are indeed players available equates to whinging
Your just taking a cheap shot and gaslighting
I don’t give a shit what fellow misogynists join in with your bullshit toxic crap .
I know my worth and that you sir are full of it
Your on block so don’t bother replying hero
Gardenia, I have been reading your input over many years now - I joined in 2016- and am normally happy to do so. But I must disagree with you here. Get Smarty plays an extremely valuable and time consuming role on this Forum and he never sets out to attack anyone. At various times he has revealed himself to be the politest of gentlemen. I remember one time he was attacked and he disappeared for a month or two because he had had enough. We were all the worse off for his absence in that time. At this stage it seems that he has some positive knowledge that he can't reveal but this has led him to defend the new coach/recruitment officer. I and many others value his role immensely.I reject the assertion that my pointing out there are indeed players available equates to whinging
Your just taking a cheap shot and gaslighting
I don’t give a shit what fellow misogynists join in with your bullshit toxic crap .
I know my worth and that you sir are full of it
Your on block so don’t bother replying hero
Here, here Dragonsteve2. Without Getsmarty's contribution on this Forum it would be a dismal situation. He provides so much info for us to read and digest and his comments are always well thought out and clear and definitely not to antagonise anyone. I would like Gardenia to acknowledge this.Gardenia, I have been reading your input over many years now - I joined in 2016- and am normally happy to do so. But I must disagree with you here. Get Smarty plays an extremely valuable and time consuming role on this Forum and he never sets out to attack anyone. At various times he has revealed himself to be the politest of gentlemen. I remember one time he was attacked and he disappeared for a month or two because he had had enough. We were all the worse off for his absence in that time. At this stage it seems that he has some positive knowledge that he can't reveal but this has led him to defend the new coach/recruitment officer. I and many others value his role immensely.
Well bloody said & I’ll second thatGardenia, I have been reading your input over many years now - I joined in 2016- and am normally happy to do so. But I must disagree with you here. Get Smarty plays an extremely valuable and time consuming role on this Forum and he never sets out to attack anyone. At various times he has revealed himself to be the politest of gentlemen. I remember one time he was attacked and he disappeared for a month or two because he had had enough. We were all the worse off for his absence in that time. At this stage it seems that he has some positive knowledge that he can't reveal but this has led him to defend the new coach/recruitment officer. I and many others value his role immensely.
Wow just Wow.I reject the assertion that my pointing out there are indeed players available equates to whinging
Your just taking a cheap shot and gaslighting
I don’t give a shit what fellow misogynists join in with your bullshit toxic crap .
I know my worth and that you sir are full of it
Your on block so don’t bother replying hero
For me the whinging is disproportionate to the abysmal running of our club on and off the field. Not enough whinging if you ask me. At least if people are having a gripe they haven’t faded into the wilderness, which is the saddest end product of the circus we’ve had to endure. Lost fans, past and future.I think a few fans are just a bit on edge atm (maybe due to lack of signings im not sure!), but I think everyones heart is in the right place ^_^
You forgot to include how many seasons these amounts are for. Some people though the current Dragons players you listed are for 1 season. Also, what does pa stand for?I think you look at your middles not just in isolation but as a average cost over a few years
ie
Lawrie $500k pa?
AFB $1.1m pa?
JDB $700k pa?
average $750k each which is pretty close to the mark for the best teams with their 3 starting middles
Sele $450k pa?
MoloF $500k pa?
MoloM $200k pa?
Eisenhuth $200kpa?
CouchmanT $200k pa?
Tuitavake $200k pa?
Fafita $200k pa?
Wow what an over reaction!I reject the assertion that my pointing out there are indeed players available equates to whinging
Your just taking a cheap shot and gaslighting
I don’t give a shit what fellow misogynists join in with your bullshit toxic crap .
I know my worth and that you sir are full of it
Your on block so don’t bother replying hero