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Parko1310

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RufusRex said:
No ... the peptides were in 2011 .. the 2016 grand final winning team had about 4-5 blokes if that from 2011.
There was nothing in the 2016 Grand Final winning team to suggest peptides etc had any influence.

Dubious is people trying to link 2016 to the injections.
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The dubious part about 2016 is that they were potentially over the cap. Over in 2013-15, over in 2017, but supposedly not over the cap in 2016... Not saying its impossible they weren't over the cap, but it is a fair coincidence they won the comp the only year they were compliant over a 5 year period
 
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RufusRex

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Yep ... Over the cap in 2015 and 2017 .. very convenient with respect to 2016.
that part is potentially the dubious part i agree.
Potentially wages/contracts from 2016 were shifted into 2015/2017 so technically they could very well have been compliant in 2016 - some creativity in the balance sheet type activity with front ending/back ending deals.

Similarly the Gaz deal in 2010 was creative in our favour in keeping us cap compliant that year.
 
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maestro1

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Parko1310 said:
The dubious part about 2016 is that they were potentially over the cap. Over in 2013-15, over in 2017, but supposedly not over the cap in 2016... Not saying its impossible they weren't over the cap, but it is a fair coincidence they won the comp the only year they were compliant over a 5 year period
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And yet the Storm team that they beat in the 2016 GF had more superstars than the Sharkies. If the Sharkies squad was over the cap, how much over were the Storm.?.....not that I would ever defend the Sharkies
 
The Word

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denis preston said:
What sort of player do we get under those conditions? A Sulky player is a shadow of hi contract value player.
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That's where the coach comes in. A lot's been said about Flanagan being a good man-manager. Well this is an opportunity for him to prove that's correct. Apparently Molo has no issue with Flanagan so once the HR process is complete it's up to him to find a way to get the player motivated and back to his best. I'm sure he won't want to let his teammates down when he's out there on the field with them. Top coaches have ways of achieving great things with players mindsets, so let's see what he's got in his locker.

Failing that, a reminder to Molo that if he plays poorly for us in 2025 then his earnings for the last few years of his playing career will be affected massively should another club come in for him for 2026 and beyond. Could be the difference of half a million over a three year deal if he plays poorly vs if he plays well. That's enough to stop most people sulking.
 
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hewi

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Dragons coach Shane Flanagan says the Frank Molo saga is a "total mess" and concedes the former Queensland Origin prop may not return this season after crisis talks with the NRL on Thursday.
Breaking his silence on the affair, Flanagan described the situation as a"legal minefield" as he tries to stabilise St George Illawarra amid fears Molo's walkout could derail their 2025 title campaign.
This masthead can reveal Flanagan attended NRL headquarters on Thursday.
The Dragons coach met with salary-cap chiefs and NRL head of integrity Jason King to seek clarity on Molo's future amid revelations the veteran prop is battling mental-health issues.
The former Broncos bookend sensationally walked out on the Dragons over summer and is refusing to return to training,allegedly due to a verbal bust-up with a member of St George Illawarra's coaching staff. Flanagan is hoping to have Molo on deck for the Dragons' premiership opener against the Bulldogs on Saturday, March 8, but admits the Samoan Test star may not wear the Red V jumper this year.
"We might not get him back this season, who knows. "It's a legal minefield." Molo has played 138
NRL matches and the Dragons desperately need his fearless running Dragons coach Shane Flanagan admits the and experience to
saga is a 'total mess' and a 'legal minefield.fightback, with the ex-Maroons firebrand playing 23 games last season. It is understood Flanagan quizzed the NRL on the club's salary-cap position and the financial implications if Molo wasn't to return this season. "I have no idea if he is coming back," Flanagan said three weeks out from the Dragons' round 1 clash. "I met with the NRL to see where we sit from a salary-cap perspective. There were a couple of things to work through with our roster. "We are going through the legal process of his contract."Frank is on sick leave until his sick days run out and then I have no idea what will happen.
health issues so I've said, 'You guys (Dragons board, the NRL and RLPA) deal with it.
"When his sick leave runs out, we will see what happens then. "I see Peter V'landys has come out and said he will make it harder for players to break contracts on the back of it, so it's interesting. "I am not comfortable with our position."We have our No.l front rower, who played 23 games last year, just walking out as the season starts.
"I'm not comfortable with it, but he has taken a stance and we need to work through it"


Sorry I had to cut and paste from photos, however it does shed a bit more light on the situation
 
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hewi said:
Dragons coach Shane Flanagan says the Frank Molo saga is a "total mess" and concedes the former Queensland Origin prop may not return this season after crisis talks with the NRL on Thursday.
Breaking his silence on the affair, Flanagan described the situation as a"legal minefield" as he tries to stabilise St George Illawarra amid fears Molo's walkout could derail their 2025 title campaign.
This masthead can reveal Flanagan attended NRL headquarters on Thursday.
The Dragons coach met with salary-cap chiefs and NRL head of integrity Jason King to seek clarity on Molo's future amid revelations the veteran prop is battling mental-health issues.
The former Broncos bookend sensationally walked out on the Dragons over summer and is refusing to return to training,allegedly due to a verbal bust-up with a member of St George Illawarra's coaching staff. Flanagan is hoping to have Molo on deck for the Dragons' premiership opener against the Bulldogs on Saturday, March 8, but admits the Samoan Test star may not wear the Red V jumper this year.
"We might not get him back this season, who knows. "It's a legal minefield." Molo has played 138
NRL matches and the Dragons desperately need his fearless running Dragons coach Shane Flanagan admits the and experience to
saga is a 'total mess' and a 'legal minefield.fightback, with the ex-Maroons firebrand playing 23 games last season. It is understood Flanagan quizzed the NRL on the club's salary-cap position and the financial implications if Molo wasn't to return this season. "I have no idea if he is coming back," Flanagan said three weeks out from the Dragons' round 1 clash. "I met with the NRL to see where we sit from a salary-cap perspective. There were a couple of things to work through with our roster. "We are going through the legal process of his contract."Frank is on sick leave until his sick days run out and then I have no idea what will happen.
health issues so I've said, 'You guys (Dragons board, the NRL and RLPA) deal with it.
"When his sick leave runs out, we will see what happens then. "I see Peter V'landys has come out and said he will make it harder for players to break contracts on the back of it, so it's interesting. "I am not comfortable with our position."We have our No.l front rower, who played 23 games last year, just walking out as the season starts.
"I'm not comfortable with it, but he has taken a stance and we need to work through it"


Sorry I had to cut and paste from photos, however it does shed a bit more light on the situation
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Thanks for posting hewi...
 
The Word

The Word

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hewi said:
Dragons coach Shane Flanagan says the Frank Molo saga is a "total mess" and concedes the former Queensland Origin prop may not return this season after crisis talks with the NRL on Thursday.
Breaking his silence on the affair, Flanagan described the situation as a"legal minefield" as he tries to stabilise St George Illawarra amid fears Molo's walkout could derail their 2025 title campaign.
This masthead can reveal Flanagan attended NRL headquarters on Thursday.
The Dragons coach met with salary-cap chiefs and NRL head of integrity Jason King to seek clarity on Molo's future amid revelations the veteran prop is battling mental-health issues.
The former Broncos bookend sensationally walked out on the Dragons over summer and is refusing to return to training,allegedly due to a verbal bust-up with a member of St George Illawarra's coaching staff. Flanagan is hoping to have Molo on deck for the Dragons' premiership opener against the Bulldogs on Saturday, March 8, but admits the Samoan Test star may not wear the Red V jumper this year.
"We might not get him back this season, who knows. "It's a legal minefield." Molo has played 138
NRL matches and the Dragons desperately need his fearless running Dragons coach Shane Flanagan admits the and experience to
saga is a 'total mess' and a 'legal minefield.fightback, with the ex-Maroons firebrand playing 23 games last season. It is understood Flanagan quizzed the NRL on the club's salary-cap position and the financial implications if Molo wasn't to return this season. "I have no idea if he is coming back," Flanagan said three weeks out from the Dragons' round 1 clash. "I met with the NRL to see where we sit from a salary-cap perspective. There were a couple of things to work through with our roster. "We are going through the legal process of his contract."Frank is on sick leave until his sick days run out and then I have no idea what will happen.
health issues so I've said, 'You guys (Dragons board, the NRL and RLPA) deal with it.
"When his sick leave runs out, we will see what happens then. "I see Peter V'landys has come out and said he will make it harder for players to break contracts on the back of it, so it's interesting. "I am not comfortable with our position."We have our No.l front rower, who played 23 games last year, just walking out as the season starts.
"I'm not comfortable with it, but he has taken a stance and we need to work through it"


Sorry I had to cut and paste from photos, however it does shed a bit more light on the situation
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That doesn’t sound great.
 
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