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Super Owl

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Agree.

Yes we didn't make finals, but if there was a half not contributing (beyond a nice short ball for Egan against the Broncos) it was LKT.

Kyle maybe unspectacular, but as someone made the point earlier about Glover and Reed, Kyle is our organiser, and he did well.

Kyle will do fine at 6
 

Old Timer

Coach
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Agree.

Yes we didn't make finals, but if there was a half not contributing (beyond a nice short ball for Egan against the Broncos) it was LKT.

Kyle maybe unspectacular, but as someone made the point earlier about Glover and Reed, Kyle is our organiser, and he did well.
You can’t justify KF because you think LKT was poor.

KF is anything but an organising half as he had us playing behind the add line in almost every single game.

People need to understand he is with us because no other club wants him and Daddy will protect him.
 
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I agree Old Timer, if Kyle is our half again we are wasting our time and money. Savala is a must on a 3 yr deal. Our GM said we are after a elite half but we can't attract one. So that would mean buying on potential. Savala maybe our last chance for any quality.
Plus a front rower
I'm hearing you DT, but I think we are putting all our eggs into the Atkinson basket to lead us around the park in 2026.
I also think that like this year with Klemmer, we will pick up an experienced prop forward before the start of next season.
 

steerlerbab

Juniors
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344
Regarding Kyle, there is one thing for sure. 2026 is his Dad's reckoning year. By round 10, If the team is again relinquishing at the bottom of the ladder, there will be couple board meetings and after 2nd meeting, Shane will be sacked. This has happened before. Remember Hook, Mary and Price. They were all dropped after few years of bad performance. Kyle has to forget about this rebuilding nonsense and bring his best game every week. Basically every team that does not end up grand final winners is rebuilding to win it. His Dad's coaching career depends on his performance.

Alternatively by round 5 if Kyle has not performed, Shane must bite the bullet and drop Kyle and experiment with Atkinson/LKT pairing. Not only his but his son's career will depend on this hard decision. Once Shane is sacked, Kyle's career will be over too. He might end in super league.

On the contrary if we perform well by round 8, the club should not rush to sign Shane. The club should we wait and see if we can make final 8. If we did not make final 8, Shane's tenure should be deemed failure and sacked.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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Regarding Kyle, there is one thing for sure. 2026 is his Dad's reckoning year. By round 10, If the team is again relinquishing at the bottom of the ladder, there will be couple board meetings and after 2nd meeting, Shane will be sacked. This has happened before. Remember Hook, Mary and Price. They were all dropped after few years of bad performance. Kyle has to forget about this rebuilding nonsense and bring his best game every week. Basically every team that does not end up grand final winners is rebuilding to win it. His Dad's coaching career depends on his performance.

Alternatively by round 5 if Kyle has not performed, Shane must bite the bullet and drop Kyle and experiment with Atkinson/LKT pairing. Not only his but his son's career will depend on this hard decision. Once Shane is sacked, Kyle's career will be over too. He might end in super league.

On the contrary if we perform well by round 8, the club should not rush to sign Shane. The club should we wait and see if we can make final 8. If we did not make final 8, Shane's tenure should be deemed failure and sacked.
Your forgetting KF gave us his best every week (just ask Daddy) but sadly his best is totally underwhelming in a staring position and even 14 is a stretch.
 

possm

Coach
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Regarding Kyle, there is one thing for sure. 2026 is his Dad's reckoning year. By round 10, If the team is again relinquishing at the bottom of the ladder, there will be couple board meetings and after 2nd meeting, Shane will be sacked. This has happened before. Remember Hook, Mary and Price. They were all dropped after few years of bad performance. Kyle has to forget about this rebuilding nonsense and bring his best game every week. Basically every team that does not end up grand final winners is rebuilding to win it. His Dad's coaching career depends on his performance.

Alternatively by round 5 if Kyle has not performed, Shane must bite the bullet and drop Kyle and experiment with Atkinson/LKT pairing. Not only his but his son's career will depend on this hard decision. Once Shane is sacked, Kyle's career will be over too. He might end in super league.

On the contrary if we perform well by round 8, the club should not rush to sign Shane. The club should we wait and see if we can make final 8. If we did not make final 8, Shane's tenure should be deemed failure and sacked.
Each season people are williing to give known poor players about 5 rounds to come good before dropping them. However, believe we should always select the best possible team from round 1 and promote/demote players on form each game from there on.

In my opinion, Kyle is at best a 14. I suppose the only reason Coach Flanno does not pick him in that position is because he extended Liddle and recruited Cook. I'd suggest he should not have recruited Cook and instead purchased a quality halfback on a two to three-year deal.

Yes, we recruited Atkinson, but I would say he should be our five-eighth. If, at the same time, we recruited a quality halfback (Jm dollars) instead of recruiting Ilias and Cook, we would have been in a much stronger position this 2025-2027.

So what should we do now? I'd say, recruit a quality halfback on a two-year deal with a one-year extension option and pair him with Atkinson in the halves. Then select the best out of Kyle and Cook for the 14 position. In this way Atkinson will be tested and given the experience he needs to cement his place in the 6 jumper when Reed is ready for first-grade.
 

Lindsay Moss

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Each season people are williing to give known poor players about 5 rounds to come good before dropping them. However, believe we should always select the best possible team from round 1 and promote/demote players on form each game from there on.

In my opinion, Kyle is at best a 14. I suppose the only reason Coach Flanno does not pick him in that position is because he extended Liddle and recruited Cook. I'd suggest he should not have recruited Cook and instead purchased a quality halfback on a two to three-year deal.

Yes, we recruited Atkinson, but I would say he should be our five-eighth. If, at the same time, we recruited a quality halfback (Jm dollars) instead of recruiting Ilias and Cook, we would have been in a much stronger position this 2025-2027.

So what should we do now? I'd say, recruit a quality halfback on a two-year deal with a one-year extension option and pair him with Atkinson in the halves. Then select the best out of Kyle and Cook for the 14 position. In this way Atkinson will be tested and given the experience he needs to cement his place in the 6 jumper when Reed is ready for first-grade.
who's the quality halfback that is available.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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Hi OT, it is pretty tedious your harping. Carry on if you must but just thought I'd let you know how it comes across.
So your saying if you read an article or post you don’t agree with you shouldn’t say anything?

What is harping is SF continually selecting KF and blowing up his tyres with a completely false narrative.

We are gong nowhere with KF in the run on side and it deserves all the criticism it gets.
 

Illusion

Bench
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So your saying if you read an article or post you don’t agree with you shouldn’t say anything?

What is harping is SF continually selecting KF and blowing up his tyres with a completely false narrative.

We are gong nowhere with KF in the run on side and it deserves all the criticism it gets.
Kyle gives his all , and the rest of the team if they did as well, we would be a better team ........ But in saying that Kyle's best is not good enough or close enough to control a team in the 6 or 7 ........ There is not a team in the NRL where he would be starting in the halves .........
 

Lindsay Moss

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You can’t justify KF because you think LKT was poor.

KF is anything but an organising half as he had us playing behind the add line in almost every single game.

People need to understand he is with us because no other club wants him and Daddy will protect him.
I actually didn't think LKT for a rookie was poor all he needs is a bit more time and to work on his defence i would have him before kyle.
 

Illusion

Bench
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I actually didn't think LKT for a rookie was poor all he needs is a bit more time and to work on his defence i would have him before kyle.
That there shows us how poor we are in the halves ........ Who was our last genuine number 7 ....... ? Hornby was a makeshift 7 , Barrett was a 6 the only one that comes to mind was M.Head , Widdop ....... Never classed Hunt as a genuine 7 more of a 9 >>>>>>
 

SnowDragon

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You can’t justify KF because you think LKT was poor.

KF is anything but an organising half as he had us playing behind the add line in almost every single game.

People need to understand he is with us because no other club wants him and Daddy will protect him.


OT, you’re a tenacious stubborn old fella mate. Once you get the bit between the teeth you never let off lol (btw it’s not meant as an insult).

I read the need as “NEED“, as in we need to for your sanity more than anything else. Don’t get me wrong, there is some truth in what you say, or at least it’s a reasonable pov for a fan to have, but your comments and non stop continual Flanagan bashing has moved from giving an opinion to a “holy war”, driven by hate more than fact.

the point is not all agree with you here, and the more and louder you now yell, the more people like me ignore your opinions. That’s a little sad because tbh I’ve always thought you’ve had an opinion worth reading, and I’ve previously considered if not agreed with your posts.

anyway mate, have a great day and I look forward to reading more posts (at least those that give information or analysis rather than hate bashing).
 

Old Timer

Coach
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I actually didn't think LKT for a rookie was poor all he needs is a bit more time and to work on his defence i would have him before kyle.
I thought LKT’s best was much better than KF’s best but KF was more consistent as he is average of that makes sense.

I have yet to see KF’s game improve or create a MOM performance for anyone in our team which is exactly what you should get from a game managing half.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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OT, you’re a tenacious stubborn old fella mate. Once you get the bit between the teeth you never let off lol (btw it’s not meant as an insult).

I read the need as “NEED“, as in we need to for your sanity more than anything else. Don’t get me wrong, there is some truth in what you say, or at least it’s a reasonable pov for a fan to have, but your comments and non stop continual Flanagan bashing has moved from giving an opinion to a “holy war”, driven by hate more than fact.

the point is not all agree with you here, and the more and louder you now yell, the more people like me ignore your opinions. That’s a little sad because tbh I’ve always thought you’ve had an opinion worth reading, and I’ve previously considered if not agreed with your posts.

anyway mate, have a great day and I look forward to reading more posts (at least those that give information or analysis rather than hate bashing).
See if you can get the coach not to say dumb shit then.
 

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