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Elektrik Shock

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To act like the past hasn't contributed towards this year is going to bring even more hatred from opposing fans.

Ofcourse it has contributred, but you and I will never be able to judge just how much to the point where we can predict exactly what could have/should have/might have happened, so whats the point? We robbed your club of finding out that right and no punishment will ever make up for it in your eyes, but we are the 2012 premiers and thats whats going in the record books.
 

Elektrik Shock

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If it wasn't in doubt then it wouldn't be in doubt, would it?

Nobody has a problem with Manly or St George's recent premierships. That's because they're not cheats.

Both breached the cap in their premiership years, but thats another story for another day, Warriors also went over by 800k one year but because they had a less than successful year so no one cares. Its not the act people hated, it was the result of it.
 

lingard

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Both breached the cap in their premiership years, but thats another story for another day, Warriors also went over by 800k one year but because they had a less than successful year so no one cares. Its not the act people hated, it was the result of it.


It was the actual size of the breach; and the duration (five odd years) of the breach; and the coldly calculated manner in which the breach was carried out (two different contracts for some players, two different sets of books, etc) - that really earnt the ire of League fans.
And it`s not so much the 'stars' that Melbourne was able to hang onto that made all the difference. It was the lower-teir players and the depth of talent that kept the Storm ultra-competitive, and still does. Despite having to let Greg Inglis and Adam Blair go, you were still able to keep players like Whiddop and Neilson and other up and coming players that might otherwise have been forced to leave the club because of salary cap restrictions. (And, of course, you hung on to a great 'spine' in Slater, Smith and Cronk.) Don`t kid yourself that it`s all about your top three players. And don`t kid yourself that the effects of the cap cheating aren`t still in evidence. And if you had half a brain, you wouldn`t expect that you could come onto a rival club`s forum, talk about this stuff, and not be met with hostility. Grow up. If you want to talk to us about football (because, let`s face it, the Parrammatta Eels Forum is the strongest one on the internet), then have the sense and the common decency to discuss other topics. Or else, you know, you can always f**k off.
 
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nobody else apart from the dogs in 02 has deliberately gone out of their way to pay players under the table and hide it from the nrl cant you see the difference in that?
 

mrt_spec

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The current rule books the NRL are playing by allow a team to gain an advantage by cheating the cap.

That's not really the Melbourne Storms fault, it's the NRLs .

I don't hate them so much - they knew the punishment was going to be so minor and they could weasel out of most of it.

The only real risk of cheating the cap is that you get caught before you get a chance to get the players to bond together (win a lot of games) and therefore accept pay cuts to stay together.
 

Stagger eel

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Tinkler's money got those to the club.

Are we going to credit Edwards with the Jason and Branko Culina saga as well?


and how many people have Tinkler sacked???..the deadshit is loose cannon about to explode, he's an idiot..getting sacked by Tinkler should be in front of your CV.

any bloke that had to directly deal with the IOC during the Olympics and got through it with flying colours deserves every acolade he gets.
 

Burwood

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and how many people have Tinkler sacked???..the deadshit is loose cannon about to explode, he's an idiot..getting sacked by Tinkler should be in front of your CV.

any bloke that had to directly deal with the IOC during the Olympics and got through it with flying colours deserves every acolade he gets.

So do you think Beckham and Bennett would have even contemplated coming to Newcastle if it wasn't for the financial clout of Tinkler? Edwards is that good of a CEO?
 

Burwood

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Appears as though there's plenty of sour grapes coming out of the Hunter these days.

Suity

Not sour grapes. I just find it slightly funny the comments on here about how Parramatta have made a major coup by signing Edwards out from under Tinkler's nose.

Did Edwards achieve great things for both the Jets and Knights? No doubt. But how successful would they have been without the very deep pockets to help make them possible. Can Parramatta afford to subsidise season ticket prices next year and drive up membership numbers?
 
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So do you think Beckham and Bennett would have even contemplated coming to Newcastle if it wasn't for the financial clout of Tinkler? Edwards is that good of a CEO?

Bennett is Edwards mate......and yeh, I think it is well conceded that he had an important role in attracting Bennett to the club.
 

Burwood

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Burwood

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Bennett is Edwards mate......and yeh, I think it is well conceded that he had an important role in attracting Bennett to the club.

Again, no arguments from me that Edwards played his part. But would Bennett have come to Newcastle if it wasn't for the >$1million paycheck that Tinkler provided?
 

bartman

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Did Edwards achieve great things for both the Jets and Knights? No doubt. But how successful would they have been without the very deep pockets to help make them possible. Can Parramatta afford to subsidise season ticket prices next year and drive up membership numbers?
They'd bloody better, since we're losing two of the home games from our existing membership package to regional areas! :fist:
 
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