The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players (Full list page 7)

[Ron Jeremy]

Those stats make me respect Kelly a whole lot more. But Aikman has the rings I suppose.

Thurman Thomas i think also led total yards from scrimage 4 years straight i'm pretty sure of, yet youll never hear about that as he didn't play for a fancier side.

Michael Irvin was once quoted as saying that Andre Reed was a better wide out then Jerry Rice - thats a big statement, Reed was dynmaic in his day.

People underestimate how great that Buffalo side was, they changed the way the game was played in ways ( revolustionsed the hurry up offense). Yeah they choked 4 straight years, but for 4 straight years they were extremely dominate, only that last game that they f**ked up on.

 

[DC_fan]

Kelly's TD-Int ratio is a lot better.

Thats is true, but in saying that you need to also say that with Smith scoring the td's he did their was no pressure for Aikman to pass for a lot of td's.

Aikmans best atribute was his accuracy and field smarts. He knew with Smith on the field he was under no pressure to throw for 3 or 4 td's per game for the Cowboys to win. If he had to I have no doubt he could have.

Looking at accuracy and pass completions, only 2.99 percent of Aikmans passes were intercepted.

Looking at a few other qb's and their int percentages

Kelly 3.66 percent
P. Manning 2.67
Brady 2.31
Brees 2.69
Montana 2.57
Marino 3.01

Aikman compares pretty well with some of the greats of the present and the past in this category.

 

[DC_fan]

interesting, yet kelly was never considered top 100?. Also, i think Kenneth davis took alot of reps of thurman too, what were his stats just out of curiosity.

Davis played with the Bills from 1989 to 1994. His stats for that time read as follows

Rushes 561 (avg 93 per season)
Yards 2,460 (410)
Avg 4.38
td's 23 (3.83)

Looking at Davis's figures you would have to think that he did take some runs away from Thomas. But you would need to ask would Thomas have been able to handle the extra work and what if anything positive it would have done to his stats.

Its a question I think can never be answered.

 

[DC_fan]

Thurman Thomas i think also led total yards from scrimage 4 years straight i'm pretty sure of, yet youll never hear about that as he didn't play for a fancier side.

Michael Irvin was once quoted as saying that Andre Reed was a better wide out then Jerry Rice - thats a big statement, Reed was dynmaic in his day.

People underestimate how great that Buffalo side was, they changed the way the game was played in ways ( revolustionsed the hurry up offense). Yeah they choked 4 straight years, but for 4 straight years they were extremely dominate, only that last game that they f**ked up on.

In a 4 year period from 1989 to 1992 Thomas had some great yardage from scrimage stats. In both 1991 and 1992 Thomas gained over 2,000 yards from scrimage.

 

[zombie jesus]

Top 10 has been revealed.

1. Jerry Rice
2. Jim Brown
3. Lawrence Taylor
4. Joe Montana
5. Walter Payton
6. Johnny Unitas
7. Reggie White
8. Peyton Manning
9. Don Hutson
10. Dick Butkus
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11. Ronnie Lott
12. Anthony Munoz
13. Joe Greene
14. Sammy Baugh
15. Deacon Jones
16. Otto Graham
17. Barry Sanders
18. Ray Lewis
19. Bronko Nagurski
20. Brett Favre
21. Tom Brady
22. Gale Sayers
23. John Elway
24. John Hannah
25. Dan Marino
26. Bob Lilly
27. Merlin Olsen
28. Emmitt Smith
29. Jack Lambert
30. Night Train Lane
31. Bruce Smith
32. Jim Parker
33. Sid Luckman
34. Deion Sanders
35. Chuck Bednarik
36. Raymond Berry
37. Jim Thorpe
38. Lance Alworth
39. Gino Marchetti
40. O.J. Simpson
41. Rod Woodson
42. John Mackey
43. Alan Page
44. Mel Blount
45. Tony Gonzalez
46. Roger Staubach
47. Ray Nitschke
48. Red Grange
49. Mike Haynes
50. Terry Bradshaw
51. Bart Starr
52. Eric Dickerson
53. Willie Lanier
54. Forrest Gregg
55. Earl Campbell
56. Gene Upshaw
57. Mike Singletary
58. Steve Van Buren
59. Mike Dikta
60. Jack Ham
61. LaDanian Tomlinson
62. Randy White
63. Jim Otto
64. Herb Adderly
65. Randy Moss
66. Willie Brown
67. Kellen Winslow
68. Mike Webster
69. Bobby Bell
70. Marshall Faulk
71. Paul Warfield
72. Jonathan Ogden
73. Ozzie Newsome
74. Marion Motley
75. Darrell Green
76. Art Shell
77. Tony Dorsett
78. Bruce Matthews
79. Emlen Tunnell
80. Troy Aikman
81. Steve Young
82. Ted Hendricks
83. Norm Van Brocklin
84. Joe Schmidt
85. Marcus Allen
86. Willie Davis
87. Elroy Hirsch
88. Ed Reed
89. Ernie Nevers
90. Kurt Warner
91. Fran Tarkenton
92. Michael Irvin
93. Sam Huff
94. Lenny Moore
95. Larry Allen
96. Mel Hein
97. Derrick Brooks
98. Lee Roy Selmon
99. Michael Strahan
100. Joe Namath

Bears: 8
Cowboys: 8
Colts: 7
Packers: 7
Rams: 7
Steelers: 7
Raiders: 6
Giants: 5
Browns: 5
49ers: 4
Chargers: 3
Chiefs: 3
Eagles: 3
Lions: 3
Patriots: 3
Ravens: 3
Vikings: 3
Bills: 2
Buccaneers: 2
Cardinals: 2
Redskins: 2
Titans: 2
Bengals: 1
Broncos: 1
Dolphins: 1
Falcons: 1
Jets: 1

 

[Tommy Smith]

Sorry but i couldn't get past John Elway being down at no.23 behind Favre and Brady.

Or the Jerry Rice of CBs in Deion Sanders being way down in the 30s.

Laughable.

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

or Bruce Matthews in the 80s.

Just a joke.

It's amazing that Fan Rankings, compiled by dimwitted morons on gamecentre was probably a more fair ranking than those done by experts on NFL network.

 

[Ladmate]

Manning in the top 10 ... biggest choker around.

 

[18to87]

Manning in the top 10 ... biggest choker around.

I will take Ray Lewis' opinion of Manning when he announced Manning at #8 over your opinion and others.

 

[Ladmate]

I will take Ray Lewis' opinion of Manning when he announced Manning at #8 over your opinion and others.

You actually expect a NFL player to outright insult another NFL player? He is a choker IMO, don't care if you value it or not. He has a horrible play-off win percentage and QB rating. He doesn't make plays when needed in the playoffs.

 

[Monk]

Which is exactly why he doesn't have a superbowl ring. Oh wait...

 

[Ladmate]

Which is exactly why he doesn't have a superbowl ring. Oh wait...

1 superbowl with one of the most talented teams in the NFL in the last 9 years, Brady did more with less, you could also argue that with Roethlisberger. He doesn't do much in playoffs compared to his regular season and he has a bad playoff QB rating and win percentage. Just look at Superbowl 44. A pick on the game winning drive. Sums up his choking.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

1 superbowl with one of the most talented teams in the NFL in the last 9 years, Brady did more with less, you could also argue that with Roethlisberger. He doesn't do much in playoffs compared to his regular season and he has a bad playoff QB rating and win percentage. Just look at Superbowl 44. A pick on the game winning drive. Sums up his choking.

exactly, the myth is slowly being exposed, he crumbles under pressure, Montana thrived etc on it - the characteristics of a true leader/champion.

 

[18to87]

1 superbowl with one of the most talented teams in the NFL in the last 9 years, Brady did more with less, you could also argue that with Roethlisberger. He doesn't do much in playoffs compared to his regular season and he has a bad playoff QB rating and win percentage. Just look at Superbowl 44. A pick on the game winning drive. Sums up his choking.

Most talented teams in the NFL? Oh you mean the defence that had almost the worst rushing defence of all time.

As far as the offence ... why is it that rookie after rookie and even UFA's that step in and catch balls from Manning all succeed? Oh yeah I guess they are just all amazing players the moment they get off the plane in Indy.

You guys are full of dribble.

How many of the Colts playoff losses in the last decade have you actually watched? I have watched them all, even attended two of them ... sure Manning had some below average games by his standards but most of those games he had no help and no QB can do it all on his own. The Colts defence has had some of the worst playoff meltdown performances you will ever see. The OL is below average year after year and except for 2006 has had great trouble putting up any sort of a running game in the playoffs. Check out some of Marvin Harrison's playoff performances - pretty much nothing. Oh yeah and remember Vanderjagt? There is a reason the Colts let him go - a few actually. I could go on and on ...

I don't know why I am bothering here really - you guys have your minds made up regardless. Simple reality is each of the last 11 seasons - the Colts would never have won more than 5 games without Manning. He and Brady both make everyone around them better. The only difference is that Brady won his 3 Superbowls before becoming a great QB and won his 3 Superbowls with one of the great defences of the era. The only year the Colts defence managed to string together some good playoff performances - they won the SB.

 

[Ladmate]

Yep, haven't the Colts had 7 straight 12 or more win seasons? That already shows that they were extremely talented.

Am I arguing about Mannings talent? No, he is a great QB. He makes people look good. But he is still a choker. Another superbowl win and I will probably think otherwise.

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

As far as untalented teams go, then go no further than John Elway as the best QB. Year after year, Montana had the best team in the league. Yes he was a great QB, but honestly, the 49ers teams he were on would've been a perennial playoff team with JaMarcuss russell. On the otherhand, not until the last 3 years of his career did Elway have a team with above average talent and it's no surprise that he won 2 superbowls in that short period. To win 4 AFC championships(?) with the team's he had, Elway surely has to be considered the best pure QB to have ever played.

 

[Ladmate]

exactly, the myth is slowly being exposed, he crumbles under pressure, Montana thrived etc on it - the characteristics of a true leader/champion.

Yep, thats what seperates the great QBs from the elite QBs. Their ability to deal with pressure.

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

Rating a player on superbowls won is so stupid.

53 other teammates, a coaching staff, head office, officiating, the bounce of the ball, other results and other team's performances need to be factored into a superbowl.

You have to judge them by their play throughout the season and how dominant they are in their respective positions.

I guess Trent Dilfer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marino because he won a superbowl.

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

Also, as far as I'm concerned, Brady's got the biggest choke of the both of them. The loss to New York in 07 after spygate and the 17-0 pretty much removes any choker argument in the Brady vs Manning tag. Of all playoff games both teams have been in, that's one which should've never been lost.

 

[Ladmate]

Rating a player on superbowls won is so stupid.

53 other teammates, a coaching staff, head office, officiating, the bounce of the ball, other results and other team's performances need to be factored into a superbowl.

You have to judge them by their play throughout the season and how dominant they are in their respective positions.

I guess Trent Dilfer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marino because he won a superbowl.

Manning does good in the regular season and bad in the playoffs. What do you call that? Disregard everything but regular season?

Nate Kaeding is the best kicker in NFL history then.