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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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slipperykinchela

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Everyone involved in football(players,clubs, agents etc) have already factored an increase into some player contracts, eg hopoate & moloney.if there is no increase this will effect the balance of squads.
It will also affect clubs in dire need for a handout from the Nrl.
 

Trentosaurus

Juniors
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Retarted? Seriously?


I don't think this is necessarily a crushing blow for the new TV deal. It's probably not a great thing but Telstra never broadcasts NRL live into Australia. They have the rights but they don't use them so I don't think Telstra will pay a huge amount for the streaming rights anyway. I think this could be a step forward for the NRL actually have live streaming available.
 

Cumberland Throw

First Grade
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As a NSW resident I will be offering live (90 sec delay) Friday night footy to any Victorians for 19.95 a month, need to have Optus phone

Any takers ?
 

Stormarekings

Juniors
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As a NSW resident I will be offering live (90 sec delay) Friday night footy to any Victorians for 19.95 a month, need to have Optus phone

Any takers ?

I hope we can get FTA friday night live from 2013+ . You think that if Melbourne can pull 250000+ viewers on friday nights we should get a lot of Friday night Storm games. At least put it on gem.
 
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Perth Red

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With the NBN and new Internet TV's I reckon most people will be watching live, or near to, sport online within 5-10 years anyway. A very interesting ruling that I wouldn't be surprised if gets overturned. Surely the copyright law about broadcasting to public without permission of rights holder would prevent this, delayed or not? I can't get a recording, say a movie or concert on DVD and broadcast it to the public for free so why can they with sport?
 

seanoff

Juniors
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With the NBN and new Internet TV's I reckon most people will be watching live, or near to, sport online within 5-10 years anyway. A very interesting ruling that I wouldn't be surprised if gets overturned. Surely the copyright law about broadcasting to public without permission of rights holder would prevent this, delayed or not? I can't get a recording, say a movie or concert on DVD and broadcast it to the public for free so why can they with sport?

the argument is that they are not broadcasting it. Optus's argument was they are merely offering a method for people to record it and watch it personally.


my understanding from my Masters is that it is illegal to re-broadcast content thru a carriage service. I'm unsure of how this was avoided and i'll read it to see wtf the judges were thinking. 3G is a carriage service as far as i can tell.

on the other hand, all telstra need to do it put a simple copy protection system on the content. if Optus in any way circumvent that system, they are in breach of copyright and liable to criminal prosecution. if they do that, telstra will get the AFL rights for free because they'll get Optus for that amount +++.
 

bluesbreaker

Bench
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Telstra aren't going to fork out big bickies for our 'exclusive' internet rights if the exclusivity can so easily be circumvented. They may keep their contract with AFL (god knows why), but it will have a significant impact on how much they will be willing to pay for our rights.
 

Poupou Escobar

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We don't need to get as much as the AFL got anyway. We just need enough so they aren't able to poach our players.

And if the networks cry poor mouth we should just negotiate short-term deals until they do have the money. TV ratings don't lie - it's the networks that should be in a bidding war.
 

slipperykinchela

First Grade
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Retarted? Seriously?


I don't think this is necessarily a crushing blow for the new TV deal. It's probably not a great thing but Telstra never broadcasts NRL live into Australia. They have the rights but they don't use them so I don't think Telstra will pay a huge amount for the streaming rights anyway. I think this could be a step forward for the NRL actually have live streaming available.

Why would a broadcaster pay mega money for rights when a rival can use th for free 2 minutes later?how is this a step forward
 

Mader45

Juniors
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Who the hell in this country would stream/record nrl games on a mobile device anyway? With our low data packages, exorbitant costs for going over your limit, slow internet speeds, the size of devices being small and the quality being rubbish that unless you're a hedonistic prick with an ipad2 there is no real benefit.

I was prepared to deal with "buffering" 15 years ago to enjoy 7 seconds of low quality looped porn. But in 2012, and with live sport, i aint going to sit there holding my dick being patient.
 

Spitty

Juniors
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Don't believe the hype, this is far more serious a problem for the AFL than it is to the NRL.

We only broadcast 3 FTA games nation wide per week, so Telstra will still be the exclusive internet rights holder for 5 or the 8 games per week. Sure they won't pay as much for that as they would have for the 8 games, but when you consider what it means for the AFL that is only a minor drop.

The AFL plays 4 FTA games per week into each region, but where it becomes a problem for the AFL is that those 4 games are different games in different cities. Perth, Adelaide, SE Qld and Sydney get all there local teams games on FTA every week, but most of those games will be on PTV in other parts of the nation. But the Optus ruling does not take into account games being on FTA in one place and PTV in another. So depending on the match up's each week Telstra could effectively have anything from 0 exclusive games on a bad week and 4 on a good week. Most weeks it'll be 2 or 3. That should slash the amount Telstra will pay.

Now I understand with the NRL expanding we would have been looking at doing a similar FTA - PTV split on the next deal, which is now more difficult. And I understand that if this ruling remains on appeal, that the AFL will argue, 'buyer beware' against Telstra in an attempt to have Telstra honor there 5 year contract (which will no doubt be another court case).

So although this is an inconvenience to us, it's a dead set nightmare for the AFL.
 

bluesbreaker

Bench
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They have their deal already, telstra say they're going to honor it, if the current status quo is maintained, what are the afl losing?
 

Hoekstra

Juniors
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Who the hell in this country would stream/record nrl games on a mobile device anyway? With our low data packages, exorbitant costs for going over your limit, slow internet speeds, the size of devices being small and the quality being rubbish that unless you're a hedonistic prick with an ipad2 there is no real benefit.

I was prepared to deal with "buffering" 15 years ago to enjoy 7 seconds of low quality looped porn. But in 2012, and with live sport, i aint going to sit there holding my dick being patient.

I could not agree more. What league fan is going to watch an entire game on a mobile phone? Highlights maybe but the rest is a stretch.
 

Brutus

Referee
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David Gallop has said he will not be talking on this issue.

I'm not sure there is too much he can say I guess.
 

duylm

Juniors
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They have their deal already, telstra say they're going to honor it, if the current status quo is maintained, what are the afl losing?

Lol. If this doesn’t get overturned on appeal, and Telstra do NOT tear up their exclusivity contract with the AFL / significantly reduce it, then they are a bunch of gumbies. At which point we can treat them as such and put the cleaners through them at the negotiating table because they clearly know nothing about media broadcasting. We could sell them an actual apple for $20m and they’ll think they can broadcast to iphones or something.
 
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