There has to be a draft introduced. Surely!

[BBTB]

Until our club is operating like a professional organisation, we will never consistently compete with the ones that are.

Whinging about the good clubs isn’t the way out. Neither is a points system or a draft. The way out is for us to be better.

Our club has been run by the biggest most incompetent administrator of all time Peter Doust......then before, supposedly retiring,brokered the deal to lumber us with another imbercile,Andrew Gordon.& the WIN corporation. (That has a achieved nothing in his time at the club. Accept lumbering us with that early extension to Mary's contract. )
Until we relieve ourselves of these parasites, moving forward will be very difficult.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Roosters are well run and their recruitment is top notch from acquiring a top coach to a top bench player. They get the best of the best all round. Storm are just lucky as they get the red carpet treatment from NRL to keep the Victorians interested which they clearly are not. I go up regularly and speak to many sports fanatics and NRL is not one sport they care about that is for sure.

No need for drafts, just changes to salary cap and make exemptions to make teams that have juniors be able to afford them. Team that poaching the players pay a minimum 200k-300k a season to the junior club from the cap on top of the players salary for each player they poach with no 3rd party deal included. Make it for the first 5 years. Then they can remove the payment to the junior club.

Because the rich clubs are so successful they can go to any club and offer peanuts to a junior and they will jump. By doing this the rich clubs would have to be a bit more picky if they were forced to pay 400k per junior as they would be limited. It will then be more feasible for them to focus on their own junior development rather than pay $$ to another club.

 

[Dragon David]

Will there ever be a fair competition for all clubs? There needs to be to keep fans interested in the NRL.

Clubs that are run really well generally are the successful ones. Some players don't mind getting a little less in their pockets if the club they are playing for is well run and successful.

I'm sure that a player who plays for the Roosters would be very happy to be part of that club's system. Brett Morris is a typical example I'd say and he wasn't a big dollar signing.

Luke Keary was on the verge of coming to the Dragons but changed his mind when the Roosters offered him a contract.

We need to be seen as being a well run and successful joint venture. The Dragons name is very strong, we need to make it stronger and more successful and more appealing and that is up to the administrators of the club to work on. We need to win games and be consistently in the top 4 is a way to achieve this.

 

[SBD82]

Roosters are well run and their recruitment is top notch from acquiring a top coach to a top bench player. They get the best of the best all round. Storm are just lucky as they get the red carpet treatment from NRL to keep the Victorians interested which they clearly are not. I go up regularly and speak to many sports fanatics and NRL is not one sport they care about that is for sure.

No need for drafts, just changes to salary cap and make exemptions to make teams that have juniors be able to afford them. Team that poaching the players pay a minimum 200k-300k a season to the junior club from the cap on top of the players salary for each player they poach with no 3rd party deal included. Make it for the first 5 years. Then they can remove the payment to the junior club.

Because the rich clubs are so successful they can go to any club and offer peanuts to a junior and they will jump. By doing this the rich clubs would have to be a bit more picky if they were forced to pay 400k per junior as they would be limited. It will then be more feasible for them to focus on their own junior development rather than pay $$ to another club.

I’d be happy to offer clubs incentives to keep juniors. I hate seeing players who play for a team for their entire career being squeezed out because of cap considerations.

But how would we define juniors? Coming through the system? From the local area? From the catchment area?

It’s a difficult one, because it’s easy to give the Roosters shit, but in reality they identify talent early, bring these talented juniors into their systems, and then they become one club players.

 

[Dragon David]

I’d be happy to offer clubs incentives to keep juniors. I hate seeing players who play for a team for their entire career being squeezed out because of cap considerations.

But how would we define juniors? Coming through the system? From the local area? From the catchment area?

It’s a difficult one, because it’s easy to give the Roosters shit, but in reality they identify talent early, bring these talented juniors into their systems, and then they become one club players.

I agree with you SBD82. The Roosters may not have a nursery as such like we do but they can scout out a couple of good players and get them into their system quite young and develop them into long term good players. Joseph Suaalii is one of those players who has now had a taste of first grade, he has built up and will be the Roosters winger on one side with Tupou on the other.

We have identified a couple of players who we know will develop into good/great players (Sloan and Co.). We also have several other ones in the region who will also be top notch which I am sure that some guys on this forum would know about. We really need to get these guys into the system and fend off poachers from other clubs.

 

[Dragon David]

I agree with you SBD82. The Roosters may not have a nursery as such like we do but they can scout out a couple of good players and get them into their system quite young and develop them into long term good players. Joseph Suaalii is one of those players who has now had a taste of first grade, he has built up and will be the Roosters winger on one side with Tupou on the other.

We have identified a couple of players who we know will develop into good/great players (Sloan and Co.). We also have several other ones in the region who will also be top notch which I am sure that some guys on this forum would know about. We really need to get these guys into the system and fend off poachers from other clubs.

I'd like to add though that the Roosters did not have much patience with Kyle Flanagan and Jackson Hastings. They just didn't turn out the way that the Roosters would have liked them to be. Now that Hastings has returned to the NRL for the Tigers, he will want to prove them wrong. Flanagan on the other hand will continue to flounder.

 

[Dragon David]

I'd like to add though that the Roosters did not have much patience with Kyle Flanagan and Jackson Hastings. They just didn't turn out the way that the Roosters would have liked them to be. Now that Hastings has returned to the NRL for the Tigers, he will want to prove them wrong. Flanagan on the other hand will continue to flounder.

The Roosters are able to also get some old heads such as Connor Watson, Paul Momirovski and Kevin Naiqama into their squad and have Brett Morris as one of their assistant coaches alongside Jason Ryles. I cannot see the Roosters not making the grand final this year.

So again, its the Club itself that brings a quality team together, rather than any cap or draft in my opinion.

 

[SBD82]

The Roosters are able to also get some old heads such as Connor Watson, Paul Momirovski and Kevin Naiqama into their squad and have Brett Morris as one of their assistant coaches alongside Jason Ryles. I cannot see the Roosters not making the grand final this year.

So again, its the Club itself that brings a quality team together, rather than any cap or draft in my opinion.

I actually have a sneaking suspicion that the Roosters will drop a few places this year.

With Keary struggling with concussion, the retirements of friend and cordner, and the lessened effectiveness of JWH, they are going to need guys like Walker, SST, Manu and Radley to step up. Walker could suffer from second year, and the other guys may have already reached their ceilings.

Not saying that they’ll be terrible, but I don’t think they’ll be too 4.

 

[Dragon David]

I actually have a sneaking suspicion that the Roosters will drop a few places this year.

With Keary struggling with concussion, the retirements of friend and cordner, and the lessened effectiveness of JWH, they are going to need guys like Walker, SST, Manu and Radley to step up. Walker could suffer from second year, and the other guys may have already reached their ceilings.

Not saying that they’ll be terrible, but I don’t think they’ll be too 4.

I hope you are right SBD82. Keary will be one of the key men in the team. Another concussion and he could be gonski and they know it. He is the key to the backline.

Walker will be targeted.

Teddy will get his team chugging along. The thing with him is that he will put in a lot of intensity as he always has done and might cop a few niggly injuries, particularly to his head as he has the propensity to fall into nearly every tackle to be whacked in the head by the opposition.

Anyway, enough about that crowing club and keep our fingers crossed for the mighties being up there.

 

[Crush]

I actually have a sneaking suspicion that the Roosters will drop a few places this year.

With Keary struggling with concussion, the retirements of friend and cordner, and the lessened effectiveness of JWH, they are going to need guys like Walker, SST, Manu and Radley to step up. Walker could suffer from second year, and the other guys may have already reached their ceilings.

Not saying that they’ll be terrible, but I don’t think they’ll be too 4.

Nah, last year everything went against them and they still finished equal 4th.
I’m tipping the Roosters to belt everyone and win the comp in 2022, those guys that you mentioned will step up I reckon.

 

[SBD82]

Nah, last year everything went against them and they still finished equal 4th.
I’m tipping the Roosters to belt everyone and win the comp in 2022, those guys that you mentioned will step up I reckon.

You could very well be right. But can’t blame a man for wishful thinking.

 

[Lethal25]

Well now a points sytem is good enough for NRLW salary cap.
Why could not something similar be developed for the NRL salary cap with discounted points for home grown players.

Whilst I like the idea of home grown being recognised it's also a very difficult area. A lot of kids start at one club and move two or three times before they get to NRL, who has developed them becomes murky. I have a nephew in SG Ball and we've seen plenty of movement, some of this comes back to managers trying to position their client. I just can't see a clean system that would work on this front, happy to be hear of one though

 

[getsmarty]

The Roosters are reportedly “very interested” in Payne Haas and there’s some scary parallels between his contract situation and an ex-Rooster.

Haas is signed to the Broncos until the end of 2024. But he is currently locked in a contract dispute with his ex-manager, Chris Orr and if he wins the legal battle his contract could be null and void.

This would open the door for the Roosters to strike, according to News Corp’s Phil Rothfield.

“Payne Haas is an identical story to Sonny Billy Williams in 2008 at the Bulldogs, which is a huge concern for the Broncos,” Rothfield told Sky Sports Radio’s Big Sports Breakfast.


“Sonny Bill was managed by the Orr brothers, Payne Haas is managed by the Orr brothers. At the time Sonny Bill walked out on the Bulldogs in that well-publicised incident to play in Europe because he wasn’t happy with his contract at the Bulldogs. Khoder Nasser took over Sonny Bill’s contract at that time.

“Payne Haas has left the Orr brothers, Khoder Nasser has stepped in as has Sonny Bill Williams as his Adviser.”

“He’s not happy with his contract. He was on $548,000 with the Broncos, put him onto the open market and he’d be on $1 million a year so that’s got to be sorted out.

“I keep hearing the Roosters are very, very interested in him. He’s still under contract with the Broncos for another three years but will that be declared null and void if he wins this case against the Orr brothers? It’s a really interesting story with Haas and his future at the Broncos.”

As one of the best props in the game, Haas would demand a starting spot at any club. The Roosters currently boast the likes of Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Siosiua Taukeiaho and Lindsay Collins as prop options but 33-year-old Waerea-Hargreaves comes off contract at the end of 2023 and Taukeiaho has been linked to the Super League for next season.

Raiders gun set to stay; the Haas saga that could trigger ‘desperate’ Fifita move — Transfer Whispers

Raiders gun set to stay; the Haas saga that could trigger ‘desperate’ Fifita move — Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Dragon David]

The Roosters are reportedly “very interested” in Payne Haas and there’s some scary parallels between his contract situation and an ex-Rooster.

Haas is signed to the Broncos until the end of 2024. But he is currently locked in a contract dispute with his ex-manager, Chris Orr and if he wins the legal battle his contract could be null and void.

This would open the door for the Roosters to strike, according to News Corp’s Phil Rothfield.

“Payne Haas is an identical story to Sonny Billy Williams in 2008 at the Bulldogs, which is a huge concern for the Broncos,” Rothfield told Sky Sports Radio’s Big Sports Breakfast.


“Sonny Bill was managed by the Orr brothers, Payne Haas is managed by the Orr brothers. At the time Sonny Bill walked out on the Bulldogs in that well-publicised incident to play in Europe because he wasn’t happy with his contract at the Bulldogs. Khoder Nasser took over Sonny Bill’s contract at that time.

“Payne Haas has left the Orr brothers, Khoder Nasser has stepped in as has Sonny Bill Williams as his Adviser.”

“He’s not happy with his contract. He was on $548,000 with the Broncos, put him onto the open market and he’d be on $1 million a year so that’s got to be sorted out.

“I keep hearing the Roosters are very, very interested in him. He’s still under contract with the Broncos for another three years but will that be declared null and void if he wins this case against the Orr brothers? It’s a really interesting story with Haas and his future at the Broncos.”

As one of the best props in the game, Haas would demand a starting spot at any club. The Roosters currently boast the likes of Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Siosiua Taukeiaho and Lindsay Collins as prop options but 33-year-old Waerea-Hargreaves comes off contract at the end of 2023 and Taukeiaho has been linked to the Super League for next season.

Raiders gun set to stay; the Haas saga that could trigger ‘desperate’ Fifita move — Transfer Whispers

Raiders gun set to stay; the Haas saga that could trigger ‘desperate’ Fifita move — Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

We all know that the Roosters gets who they chase. He will be either Jared Waerea-Hargreaves or Siosiua Taukeiaho replacement. The Roosters planning is second to none.