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Thierry step to the corner and politik for a minute....

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Nah i aint got that murda mixtape thats on Mirc too..might DL it..

I've been told that Amerikaz Nightmare is crappy...and even worse than Infamy (allthough Get Away is in my top 5 fav Mobb songs)

Did u see the cover to Mareko & Savage's mixtape called "blood on the bbq" lol they used the exact same lettering as Mobb...."the Infamous Mareko & Savage..presents blood on the bbq"
 

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i rememeber talking about the college dropout to thierry a while ago and he fully dissed the background chipmunk vocals. so now when i listen i can't help but think of chipmunks

have you guys heard madvilliany yet? it sounds like a comic book. it's crazy good stuff. definately digging it like a shovel

lol at rahzel. that brings back some memories
 

Anonymous

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I've been told that Amerikaz Nightmare is crappy...and even worse than Infamy (allthough Get Away is in my top 5 fav Mobb songs)

Did u see the cover to Mareko & Savage's mixtape called "blood on the bbq" lol they used the exact same lettering as Mobb...."the Infamous Mareko & Savage..presents blood on the bbq"

Yeah I saw it, I think it was in Sir-Vere's shop which is on the way to Uni so I pop in sometimes. Holla at my boy and all. Or most likely, just browse quietly.
 

Anonymous

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Well here's a nice lengthy review of Amerikaz Nightmare by my buddy Flash. But yeah, I think he's biased. Still he obviously likes it. I agree with "at some point it becomes hard to distinguish whether their art imitates life or vice versa" though, it makes me wonder how the Mobb don't get sick of rapping about all the people they have and will murder, after all these years. It's a style that caters for a certain mood, I suppose.


Mobb Deep :: Amerikaz Nightmare :: Jive/Zomba
as reviewed by Steve 'Flash' Juon
You couldn't possibly find more Bias if my name was Len. This reviewer is personally as big a fan of Mobb Deep as they come. Ever since the duo ushered in an new era of hip-hop sound with "The Infamous," a sound which Prodigy himself describes as "heavy metal for the black people," the rap game hasn't been the same. Havoc's rhymes are both grimy and beautiful, a dark urban landscape through which he occasionally allows in a ray of sunshine. Prodigy raps as though every minute might be his last, which to some degree is actual fact given his struggle with sickle cell anemia. And of course even though he's not officially in the group Alchemist has subbed in at times for Havoc on the boards, so let's give both of them the credit they are due for making so many audio masterpieces over the years. Together Mobb Deep flip verbals that read in print like a Mario Puzo novel and sound on wax like the narrative to "Scarface."

After shocking fans by declaring themselves "Free Agents" in 2003 and releasing said same album on Koch/Landspeed, Mobb Deep is back with a vengeance and a new record deal. If you ask Havoc though, it ain't no thang. "I'm tryin to rip Britney, so I made Jive sign me." That quip can be found in their first single "Got it Twisted," which once again finds Mobb Deep not only setting trends but being ahead of them. If you've been watching "I Love the 80's" or if you've over the age of 28 the beat on this track will make you smile like Snoop Dogg at a pot rally. If you don't know it though, look up "She Blinded Me With Science" by Thomas Dolby sometime. It's surprising nobody in hip-hop thought of this one before, given that the brooding synthesizers and puncy beat sound tailor made for rap, but Mobb Deep have set a standard in it's use that P. Diddy will now never be able to usurp. Both MC's shine, but you gotta give it up for Prodigy:

"QB drop you off of that bridge
Show you how we do it in Queens where murder ain't shit, gentleman
This is P talkin, show you where I live
You can come right to my crib and get it for shiz
It be a manslaughter, right in front of my kids
A little blood get on my daughter, it's nothin, she'll live
Got cops shook to death of us... we don't like D's
You never catch us runnin with the police
Y'all niggaz, get y'all vest-es up
And y'all better invest, in some real heavy bullet-proof paneling"

There are songs on here so thorough and ill they'll send a chill down your spine and raise the hair on your neck. Even when they use a beautiful sample like Jean Plum singing "Here I Go Again," it's like putting Kanye West and RZA in a blender and putting it on the puree setting. The mixture is smooth, but it's still going to come out a lot darker than Kanye alone would be. On "Win or Lose" that's precisely what you get, thanks to Alchemist's presence punching buttons to make the aforementioned mix. Here's a little taste of what the duo does with it:

Havoc: "Y'all like bitches - the chit-chatterin
Stay not likin a gentleman but givin dap to him
Hav' don't change for no chick, and they adapt to him
Never get cool with you niggaz, I end up clappin 'em"

Prodigy: "Aiyyo - federal note fetish, you f**k with my niggaz
Franklin and Grant, get yo' ass blammed with the quickness
Y'all niggaz is finished
You overdosin the world with that cute shit
It's time for this realness"

For those who think they've got Mobb Deep's sound all but figured out by now, "Amerikaz Nightmare" has more surprises in store. Havoc's beat on "Dump" sounds like Timbaland on a sizzurp bender - slow, low, and hard. Nate Dogg's guest vocals make it even MORE smoked out. Then there's the bugged out "When U Hear The" cut, where Alchemist and Mobb Deep seem to be one-upping each other on who can come iller. "Real Niggaz" is a complete swerve, thanks to a Red Spyda beat and a sing-song chorus that seems deceptively radio friendly, but still bangs harder than concrete. Speaking of surprises, Lil Jon pops up for a beat and a cameo on the song "Real Gangstas" - and on this one I confess I'm a little indifferent since nearly every song on the radio any more has a Lil Jon beat (in other words the shit's getting old) but it's still cool. Things get back to the hardness on "One of Ours Part II" thanks to Havoc's beat and a guest verse from Jadakiss:

"My niggaz they can't stop us
Ev'rysince we got our hands on the AR's, the S, and the fresh choppers
All of them is filled to the top with the vest poppers
We can get it on with America's Best Coppers
Soon as the lead pop you, whoever don't make it
to the funeral or wake can catch you on Ted Koppel
I'm a rare thumper, you just a gay gentleman
with a rainbow sticker on your rear bumper"

The final third of the album keeps the pace up nicely with the ominous "Throw Your Hands," and surprisingly this one IS a Kanye West beat. It's followed by the posse collabo' "Get Me" featuring Littles and Noyd, the fast paced Havoc production "We Up," the jazzy anthem of realness "Neva Change" and a bonus "Got it Twisted" remix featuring (of course) Twista. At some point it becomes hard to distinguish whether their art imitates life or vice versa, although it can certainly be said other artists in rap try to imitate THEM. You can't improve on the original with a copy though, so the best bet for all concerned is to not even try. Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery but only Mobb Deep comes with the pure uncut. Their music may be "Amerikaz Nightmare" to some, but to their fans it's that real shit.

Music Vibes: 8.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 8.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 8.5 of 10
 
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haha I may as well just DL it anyway...I'll have a listen but I wont expect the world. Apparently Havocs really stepped up lyrically but P just sucks now. the interviewer even asked Cormega if it might be the sickle cell. but C said "nah it aint that. I seen dunn walk straight outta the hospital to the studio and drop a tight 16."
 

Anonymous

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I have a new point of discussion. What is your opinion on the unstoppable wave of pop-rap currently sweeping the NZ scene?? I'm talking Fast Crew, Misfits of Science, and topping them all, Dei Hamo coming with the straight up shiniest NZ video of all time. Is this a good thing, our own dudes making the big money and getting exposure? Or is it just paving the way for NZ versions of Chingy, Nelly etc to prostitute the rap game?
 
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I'm a bit undecided on it..I dig the misfits of science track..im thinking the production on this track is pretty fresh..and not overly commercial. Fast crew well, blah..not much lyrical talent there. but catchy..but yeah bitches all in the video clips shouldnt be the NZ style..muthaf**kas should be chillin down Otara Markets n shit. Dei Hamo i never really liked..his flow is just way too fake-yankee soundin..However he did spit a few tight lines in that video..lol @ him being good in bed and being good in the kitchen...Its hilarious cos last year I saw him on C4 and he released his new video called "hot Girls" and lmfao I thought it would be full of bitches, but it's just him in a plain white background rhyming lmao..and then he drops this vid and he's flossin n shit..obviously the album advance cheque came. :lol:
 

Anonymous

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I dig the misfits of science track..im thinking the production on this track is pretty fresh..and not overly commercial.

Totally agree.

As for Dei Hamo, I think the video is a bit of a piss take and all, a bit of a laugh, but that doesn't overcome the fact that the track is IMO totally sh*t......just sounds like a D-grade version of something by, I dunno, Ludacris or some such, and I don't even much like the A-grade versions.[/quote]
 

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