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This asshole can f**k off with this request.

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And as for the quote that I obviously care more about about Human's being killed than animals...ummm yeah...does that make me a bad person that I care more about humans being killed than animals that get eaten around the world on a daily basis? I doubt that.

Do I want either to die...of course not.

But if I had a gun and got told you need to kill one of those either a person or a dog...the choice is pretty easy to me - but using your logic, you'll kill the human.

Geez Penny...I'd hate for you to go to Vietnam...or other parts of Asia...perhaps you'll get a shock that your little labby is sitting in a stew.

Maybe you should go to Malta, Italy etc because they kill little bugs bunny's to eat and put in stew as well.

Do you like Boxing or the UFC?...technically that's the same as dog fighting. Put guys in a cage and beat the sh*t out of each other. But you see nothing wrong with that I assume?.

So I'll revert the question back to you....do you place more worth on an animals life than a human...because it certainly appears that way.

Considering you were complaining about the 2 year sentence Vick got...as opposed to others like Dante Stallworth who was DUI and killed a guy crossing the road. And he got what...30 days prison? lol.

Double standards are crazy...and its all around the world...perception is reality and if enough people cause a stink then the punishment grows.

Vick has at least shown since his prison sentence has finished that he is capable of being an ambassador for animal rights and has been to numerous schools in troubled areas like where he grew up to stamp out the culture. But I guess actually contributing positively to society isn't enough.

this post really does show that i was right to just stop talking this sh*t in here because its pointless.

It proves that we both look at the world differently, we look at this situation differently. I'll address 2 things, however...

I love the UFC. If you think the UFC is similar to what Vick did, then we really really do look at this situation very differently. Has Anderson Silva and Georges St Pierre been helplessly tortured to get them aggresive enough to fight? Has Dana White Electrocuted Randy Couture? Was Josh Koschecks throat cut after he lost on Sunday, no he got paid 100 grand. Big big difference.

You've made the comparison to Stallworth before. Stallworth, got into a car drunk and accidently killed someone. Is this bad? f**k yeah. Should he have gotten a longer prison sentence? definitely. (you agree with me on this, even though you constantly tell me in these arguments that Vick has paid his debt to society by doing the time handed to him by a judge, yet you "lol" at how long stallworth got) Is what he did worse than what Vick did? It seems like most people will say yes. Which seems to me that I'm the asshole here who likes animals enough to rate their lives on parr with Human life.
 

Shorty

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I don't have a problem with it. I think he's changed and I highly doubt he would do that ever again.
LOL.
Yeah, right.

He's not sorry he hurt those dogs (just quietly find me some proof of him actually apologising and acknowledging his treatment of the animals), he's just sorry he got caught.
Apparently he's tempted everyday, but hey he'll publicly go out and say he wants a dog?
He's 'feel good' story doesn't blind me.

He's scum, and the fact that he plays for a scummy franchise with scummy fans makes it even worse.
 

Ice Ice Brady

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This is a tough issue.

If Michael Vick won't ever even consider harming an animal again then there shouldn't be an issue.

None of us here have spoken to Vick or been part of his rehab. Therefore we shouldn't judge him.

I am a huge believer in people making mistakes (yes, I know what he did involved dozens of mistakes, but they are all part of one massive decision he made). And for those people to have the opportunity to redeem themselves.

I respect people like Alfie's opinion on this. It is a legitimate stance to have. These dogs were never able to make decisions for themselves (in my opinion, they should be treated similarly to humans). But the law dealt with it. I think Vick should have served more time, but that part of the story has happened.
 

The 18th Man

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This is a tough issue.

If Michael Vick won't ever even consider harming an animal again then there shouldn't be an issue.

None of us here have spoken to Vick or been part of his rehab. Therefore we shouldn't judge him.

I am a huge believer in people making mistakes (yes, I know what he did involved dozens of mistakes, but they are all part of one massive decision he made). And for those people to have the opportunity to redeem themselves.

I respect people like Alfie's opinion on this. It is a legitimate stance to have. These dogs were never able to make decisions for themselves (in my opinion, they should be treated similarly to humans). But the law dealt with it. I think Vick should have served more time, but that part of the story has happened.

Excellent post.
 

The 18th Man

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Cupid, Philly fans are some of THE worst in pro sports. Shorty has a point re: scummy fans, I wouldn't put all in that catergory obviously. My old man who has ventured to a Eagles vs Colts game in one of his many USA excursions with mum said the Philly crowd (who lost that day) made some of the fans from the bad days of English football (he is a Pom) look mild in some respects. Not all though. Dad didn't have to dodge bricks or flying drop saw blades :lol:
 

Raider_69

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We boo'ed Santa Clause... and im cool with that.:D
Philly fans are despised because they are clearly the most passionate in US sports. ;)
 

Ron Jeremy

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We boo'ed Santa Clause... and im cool with that.:D
Philly fans are despised because they are clearly the most passionate in US sports. ;)

crap, the Bills fans would have something to say about that, Eagles fans are like choir students compared to them.
 

Raider_69

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anyone who puts up with as much crap for as long as the Bills fan base (raiders too) has my respect...
 

Cupid Stunt

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That's where I was headed. Raiders fans leave Philly fans in their dust. As for worst in pro sport, outside of Russian & South American soccer fans the Yankees are leading the way. Hell if they can't pick fights with the opposition they just beat the bejesus out of each other. Now that's class! :lol:
 

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