This is why players need someone to babysit them in interviews....

[mongoose]

Didn't Bird knee a player in the head once, unprovoked?

He really needs to keep his mouth shut

 

[mongoose]

pretty simplistic to suggest that the reason for all the niggle is a lack of punching...

But then Bird and Gallen are not geniuses

Same kind of logic as kids are all out of control now cause schools can no longer use the paddle

 

[flamin]

Yes, more penalties is exactly what the game needs. 18-14 penalty counts each game sounds just f**king peachy.

League works best when it flows with minimal stoppages. Introducing a f**k-tonne of more ways for the refs to get involved isn't going to help anyone. Look at bloody union, absolute NO ONE watches that shit in Australia. Demanding refs penalise the ruck like its netball would send us straight into insignificance along with that basket case sport.

It used to be that niggle only occurred by players willing to throw down. Now any dickhead can give a facial or rub a forearm in someone's face without repercussion. Sure you can blow the pea out of the whistle and ruin every game of league played, but that is not a solution. Much better solution is to allow a bit of niggle and let the players sort out those who cross the line.

If refs blew penalties for absolutely every infringement we'd never see a set go by without someone getting pinged for offside, not square, or something in the tackle. Its just the way the game is played and coached (any coach who doesn't teach his centres to stand offside is an idiot, for example)

No, if you blow a penalty in the first minute for the niggle and then penalise it again if occurs immediately afterwards then the players know they can't get away with anything. If a player wants to break the rules put him in the bin. It's not hard.

 

[big hit!]

Well done Darren Lockyer. Explains it like it should be.

Shame there are so many thickheads unlike him.

 

[Son of Minto]

If you think a punch up in the first 5 minutes would stop niggle and further punch ups, you deserved to be glassed by Greg Bird.

 

[hrundi99]

The NHL faces the same scenario as the introduction of the instigator rule means retaliation is penalised heavily.

So now there is more niggle and more "goons" going after skill players without fear of retribution.

 

[supercharger]

The NHL faces the same scenario as the introduction of the instigator rule means retaliation is penalised heavily.

So now there is more niggle and more "goons" going after skill players without fear of retribution.

What! That's asinine. The instigator rule was first added to fighting rules in 1976-77 to allow referees to call a major and/or game misconduct for any player who is clearly the instigator of a fight. In 1991-92 the rule was strengthened in response to 1st line players being attacked by 4th line goons, in order to take an opponent?s star player off the ice for 5 minutes

 

[Apey]

What research do you need? How many blokes have to drop dead from punches to the head before you realise it's probably dangerous.

Just one more ought to do it.

 

[nick87]

^ lol!

 

[StormHi]

You merkins crying about 1 punch kills are so f**king stupid. Punches don't kill people the after effects do. Ie falling to the floor and cracking your skull. The players play on a grassy field not concrete. Truth is you can do more brain damage to a person with a stiff palmed slap to the head then with a punch.

The reason why boxers end up with so many head injuries is because of the gloves. The added weight and type of impact is what causes detached brains and concussions. MMA gloves and bare knuckle punches do more external damage ie cuts and abrasions but do very little internal damage due to the type of impact.

The mass hysteria of one punch kills has more to do with a king hit to the back of the head or Neck and people falling onto table corners and concrete after being KO'd and cracking their skulls or getting concussed and not getting treatment and dying in their sleep.

Seriously people like Bunniesmong who bang on about it. Really have 0 clue what they are talking about.

 

[StormHi]

Ps been punched more times then I could count and never did I see a fist come at me and think Oh shit I am gonna die from one punch..... It's the punches or strikes to the back of the head or neck that may put you out and cause you to collapse in a awkward position that would cause you serious injury.

I would argue that fighting in nrl games is a bad look but the NRL clearly doesn't think so as they have fights advertised pre game for Origin to hype it up and constantly use terms like battle of brookvale etc to hype up games.

Trying to say they actually give two flying f**ks about player safety is f**king geniused.

 

[TheVelourFog]

Ps been punched more times then I could count

So at least twice

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

You merkins crying about 1 punch kills are so f**king stupid. Punches don't kill people the after effects do. Ie falling to the floor and cracking your skull. The players play on a grassy field not concrete. Truth is you can do more brain damage to a person with a stiff palmed slap to the head then with a punch.

The reason why boxers end up with so many head injuries is because of the gloves. The added weight and type of impact is what causes detached brains and concussions. MMA gloves and bare knuckle punches do more external damage ie cuts and abrasions but do very little internal damage due to the type of impact.

The mass hysteria of one punch kills has more to do with a king hit to the back of the head or Neck and people falling onto table corners and concrete after being KO'd and cracking their skulls or getting concussed and not getting treatment and dying in their sleep.

Seriously people like Bunniesmong who bang on about it. Really have 0 clue what they are talking about.

- Citation: Stormhi's ass

Thank you Professor....

 

[pHyR3]

I'm been married for 5 years. My wife knows more about league than anyone I know and would trounce most on this forum with her league knowledge. Whenever we have a son he'll be playing league from an early age (assuming he wants to, of course).

The NRL didn't mention any research at all when banning punches. They went from no one giving a toss about it before origin 1 last year to straight banning them days after the game so its hardly like they went around polling mothers in the street before deciding on their ban. They simply used the hysterical "won't somebody think of the children" method and assumed that the occasional punch in the game might scare off parents and went with it.

actually the NRL got numerous principals of schools saying they will not be offerring rugby league if this is the kind of message and image its going to be sending to 10 year olds.

the rest of it is just f**king common sense. mums dont approve of senseless violence... old dinosaurs reminiscing about the 70's do, however. But they aren't going to help us grow the game whatsoever.

 

[ggmu]

So at least twice

Haha that's pretty f**king funny

 

[Perth Red]

actually the NRL got numerous principals of schools saying they will not be offerring rugby league if this is the kind of message and image its going to be sending to 10 year olds.

the rest of it is just f**king common sense. mums dont approve of senseless violence... old dinosaurs reminiscing about the 70's do, however. But they aren't going to help us grow the game whatsoever.

Ye let's make the game soccer and triple participation rates. Throwing a punch in a RL game is very rarely senseless.

 

[supercharger]

You merkins crying about 1 punch kills are so f**king stupid. Punches don't kill people the after effects do. Ie falling to the floor and cracking your skull. The players play on a grassy field not concrete. Truth is you can do more brain damage to a person with a stiff palmed slap to the head then with a punch.

The reason why boxers end up with so many head injuries is because of the gloves. The added weight and type of impact is what causes detached brains and concussions. MMA gloves and bare knuckle punches do more external damage ie cuts and abrasions but do very little internal damage due to the type of impact.

The mass hysteria of one punch kills has more to do with a king hit to the back of the head or Neck and people falling onto table corners and concrete after being KO'd and cracking their skulls or getting concussed and not getting treatment and dying in their sleep.

Seriously people like Bunniesmong who bang on about it. Really have 0 clue what they are talking about.

I can't believe that you are actually accusing others of having no idea what they're talking about after posting such nonsense
first of all I suggest you familiarise yourself with what a concussion is, what causes them and their effects http://theconcussionblog.com/what-is-a-concussion/

Secondly. yes a slap delivered with enough force certainly can cause a concussion but to say they cause more damage than a punch is erroneous

Thirdly. Yes Sometimes, people take a hard blow to the head and then fall down and hit their head again, worsening their bruising and swelling.
But a Punch itself certainly can cause a lot of damage. depending on the angle a person is hit and how severe the blow is, swelling in the brain may occur. For example, swelling can start in the anterior portion of the brain just above the eye in a frontal head injury. The base of the skull contains irregular bones, so if a person gets hit there, their brain can swell rapidly, where pressure in the skull -- called intracranial pressure - beings to rise suddenly.
If intracranial pressure rises too high there is not enough "cerebral perfusion pressure," which means the blood vessels can't accommodate this added pressure. With less blood flowing to brain tissues, specific regions such as the brain stem do not get enough oxygen and can rapidly swell, and a person can lose consciousness or fall into a coma,

There was an incident in Salt Lake City where a player punched an official during a game. the referee did not hit his head on the ground on the defining blow and sadly died in hospital as a result of his injuries
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23584113
There was another terrible case in Michigan, where a player again struck a referee. this time the victims head did hit the ground (a grassed field) which contributed to his death
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/01/justice/michigan-soccer-death/

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Ye let's make the game soccer and triple participation rates.

NO, screw being a popular sport. Lets keep the punches and turn RL into a game that only a few people play, gets no funding at any level and is known mostly for causing braindamage and the occasional death...

Throwing a punch in a RL game is very rarely senseless.

Even if that was true, which is very debatable, punching IS senceless in lower grades, juniors AND in normal society. RL shouldnt be the sport that says punching is acceptable...

 

[Perth Red]

NO, screw being a popular sport. Lets keep the punches and turn RL into a game that only a few people play, gets no funding at any level and is known mostly for causing braindamage and the occasional death...




Even if that was true, which is very debatable, punching IS senceless in lower grades, juniors AND in normal society. RL shouldnt be the sport that says punching is acceptable...

The game Has for 108 years done ok, had decent participation rates and just got a billion $ TV deal, all whilst the very rare punch up was accepted. Problem with people like you and Dave smith is you create your own realities out of unlikely risk and before you know it the game is a poor shadow of its former self and in ten years time we look at it and ask how the f**k did we end up here? Like many afl fans I talk to now say.

Running into people twenty times a game, tackling people to the ground etc is also not the norm in society, sport is sport and not normal society. You swear at each other, try to knock each other out and occasionally end up in a bit of a punch up, none of which is acceptable in "normal society" and the very reason people love to play and watch contact sport

Reality is mums are going to choose non contact sport over any contact sport if they are risk averse. The few non injuries punches that got thrown at the top lvl of RL is going to have zero impact on those soccer/cricket mums. Stats show jnr RL is as safe for kids to play as any sport, cotton wool mums will still choose soccer for their precious kids.

 

[supercharger]

Question for the why-don’t-they-wear-dresses crowd
What is it about these fights that you like so much? There's little to no technique or skill involved and most of the
so-called “best fights” are literally two grown men grabbing each other by their jerseys and trading completely wild punches with absolutely no technique involved. If it were a boxing or MMA match, you’d be jumping off your seat asking for your money back upon watching such a dull fight.