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Foz

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Misty Bee said:
How the f**k would a player know whose fans are singing YNWA? I love the atmosphere of Pommy sport - it's what makes Premier League IMHO. But it seems like people go to the ground to sing and make noise rather than watch the game.

No problem with that, except if you are belting out a tune you are not concentrating on the game. I've tried at games - the more rowdier I get, the less I absorb the game. I used to try and watch telly during gigs- same deal, can't do it!

Aussie crowds usually do it by influencing the ref at crucial points of the match. We would rather participate by helping the ref police the 10 (Get 'em onside), the speed of the play the ball (get off 'im!), and other rules like knock ons, forward passes head high tackles. We even provide advice on judicial matters (send 'im off!).

Whilst doing all that, we are doing a service to the game, and getting involved. Wanna sing? Join a chior!

They have a section for away fans at Premier League Games so it wouldn't be hard to work out who's fans are singing what.
It would be easier for chants,songs etc if everyone around you is singing the same thing (and they all know the chants or songs).
If its YNWA at Anfield its a pretty good chance its a Liverpool fan singing but the away fans seem to be joining in with the song more and more.
If Celtic are playing Liverpool you'll get the whole crowd joining in.
On singing and watching a game pommies are brought up on it. (I'm no pom). Its a natural thing to them.
I've done it and never found it to be a problem but if something of significance happens the singing stops pretty quickly.
 

woodgers

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I remember the good old days of the Western Reds games. Nothing I have experienced unites a crowd like the classic "Buuulllllshhiiiiiiittt, buuulllllshhiiiiiiittt, buuulllllshhiiiiiiittt" when a decision is made that the crowd don't agree with.

Actually, one classic Aussie call that may top that is "______'s a wanker!"
I heard it the other day on the telecast of the cricket from Melbourne, and I sat there grinning!

Now you are refering to the dickhead element in this country. The ones you are refering to aren't actually offering anything to the atmosphere really. While I love atmosphere and chanting, nothing is worse than the 16 year olds attending the cricket these days, wearing trucker singlets and joining in those crap chants because they think that is the done thing because cricket crowds were rough back in the day. They have their 2 light beers and believe they are 10 foot tall, bulletproof and chant that crap "you are a wanker" for 6 hours at anyone and everyone.

How the f**k would a player know whose fans are singing YNWA? I love the atmosphere of Pommy sport - it's what makes Premier League IMHO. But it seems like people go to the ground to sing and make noise rather than watch the game.

Probably because YNWA is known as a Liverpool and Celtic song the world over. It is part of the Liverpool crest as well so a player can't work it out then he has an IQ in the minus. The second part about not watching the game has already been covered. Why on earth would people pay the huge amounts to get into premier league games just to sing? You do realise that a lot of clubs over there charge over 500 quid for a season ticket, i'm sure their fans are watching the match.

Wanna sing? Join a chior!

Why? I love sport and am passionate that is why I chant songs at grounds, not because I like singing.
 

Red Bear

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The atmosphere at the Souths v Dragons game last year was awesome, the Burrow are certainly doing their best to get the Pom atmosphere here.
 

woodgers

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The atmosphere at the Souths v Dragons game last year was awesome, the Burrow are certainly doing their best to get the Pom atmosphere here.
The Burrow are currently the best league group going around so full credit to Clevo and the gang. The Bulldog and Dragon army's have numbers but not much atmosphere or noise. They both have a good base to go from because it is easier to get people in your group to do it rather than find people. I have heard the dragons go o.k but they have no variety of songs. At the Raiders we have come on leaps and bounds in the season past so with the 2 groups, Raiders Army and SGB we have roughly 100 numbers. We have people such as myself and Raiders Ultra who have lived in the U.K and seen the support week in, week out and we are getting things moving well.

Come to a Raiders game at Bruce this year, you'll see ;-)
 

woodgers

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Try driving to Sydney, Newcastle and the Central Coast from Canberra on a fortnightly basis.
 

Red Bear

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i cant drive cos im not old enough so i have no chance of consistently travelling for footy ;-)
 

Nuke

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woodgers said:
Now you are refering to the dickhead element in this country. The ones you are refering to aren't actually offering anything to the atmosphere really. While I love atmosphere and chanting, nothing is worse than the 16 year olds attending the cricket these days, wearing trucker singlets and joining in those crap chants because they think that is the done thing because cricket crowds were rough back in the day. They have their 2 light beers and believe they are 10 foot tall, bulletproof and chant that crap "you are a wanker" for 6 hours at anyone and everyone.
I just happen to think that call is funny! Being in Perth most of my life, I haven't had the opportunity to join in one of those chants, and I'm not one to start one, but ... I don't know ... there's something about it that makes me laugh.

I remember in the lead up to the Sydney 2000 Olympics, there was a basketball game between Australia and america, and one of the yanks was being overly aggressive (or something like that - I'm not a basketball watcher or fan normally). The "________'s a wanker" call began. I think what appealed to me about that was that in america, this guy would be treated almost like a god, but he comes here and he's called a wanker by a few thousand people simultaniously. Big culture shock for him I bet!
 

m0j0

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Foz said:
Misty Bee said:
How the f**k would a player know whose fans are singing YNWA? I love the atmosphere of Pommy sport - it's what makes Premier League IMHO. But it seems like people go to the ground to sing and make noise rather than watch the game.

No problem with that, except if you are belting out a tune you are not concentrating on the game. I've tried at games - the more rowdier I get, the less I absorb the game. I used to try and watch telly during gigs- same deal, can't do it!

Aussie crowds usually do it by influencing the ref at crucial points of the match. We would rather participate by helping the ref police the 10 (Get 'em onside), the speed of the play the ball (get off 'im!), and other rules like knock ons, forward passes head high tackles. We even provide advice on judicial matters (send 'im off!).

Whilst doing all that, we are doing a service to the game, and getting involved. Wanna sing? Join a chior!

They have a section for away fans at Premier League Games so it wouldn't be hard to work out who's fans are singing what.
It would be easier for chants,songs etc if everyone around you is singing the same thing (and they all know the chants or songs).
If its YNWA at Anfield its a pretty good chance its a Liverpool fan singing but the away fans seem to be joining in with the song more and more.
If Celtic are playing Liverpool you'll get the whole crowd joining in.
On singing and watching a game pommies are brought up on it. (I'm no pom). Its a natural thing to them.
I've done it and never found it to be a problem but if something of significance happens the singing stops pretty quickly.

This is not an anti-soccer post by any means. In fact, I've been a Man U supporter ever since I started playing soccer back in the 70's (damn I feel old), and I still enjoy getting up at 3:00 in the morning to catch a premier league game or two. But there's a big difference between soccer and league. There's plenty of (how can I put this nicely) "downtime" in soccer that kind of demands some sort of filler like crowd singing. The same applies for other sports like cricket or tennis. Well, those type of moments are, in comparison, rare in a league match. You say "if something of significance happens the singing stops pretty quickly." We tend to spend most of our time cheering at the action rather than amusing ourselves by singing.

That said, I don't begrudge anyone that wants to join in the organised singing/chanting at any type of sporting event. You are right in saying it adds atmosphere. However, it's not a culture most Australians are brought up on, it's something a minority of us have copied from others. That being the case, you can't blame the majority of us for not joining in.
 
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